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Offline Eleanor

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #810 on: January 29, 2017, 08:08:34 PM »
I think you need a cite for the 3rd sentence.  Otherwise ...

Levy did edit the videos before he released them on line, and it was Levy who put them up first.  His name is on them.  We, some of us have since seen the unedited version.

Offline jassi

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #811 on: January 29, 2017, 08:26:55 PM »
Levy did edit the videos before he released them on line, and it was Levy who put them up first.  His name is on them. We, some of us have since seen the unedited version.

Is this generally available or just to  a select group of supporters?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

ferryman

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Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #812 on: January 29, 2017, 08:53:21 PM »
Is this generally available or just to  a select group of supporters?

You've read the quote of Inspector Dias describing Eddie playing with cuddle-cat.

The videos no longer show the sequence.

The sequence has been edited out.

Offline jassi

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #813 on: January 29, 2017, 08:58:52 PM »
You've read the quote of Inspector Dias describing Eddie playing with cuddle-cat.

The videos no longer show the sequence.

The sequence has been edited out.

Surely there is more than one copy of the video in existence ?
« Last Edit: January 29, 2017, 09:31:01 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline jassi

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #814 on: January 29, 2017, 09:35:22 PM »
Only one doctored copy available ?  Sounds unlikely.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #815 on: January 29, 2017, 09:36:14 PM »
Eddie's cadaver scent detecting skills have been shown in court in the Theresa Parker case. OG were looking for a cadaver in Luz. Mark Harrison recommended the best dogs for this case.

"The use of a specialist EVRD (Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog) and CSI dog (human blood detecting dog) could potentially indicate on whether Madeline's blood is in the property or the scent of a dead body is present. In relation to the dead body scent if such a scent is indicated by the EVRD and no body is located it may suggest that a body has been in the property but removed."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm
« Last Edit: January 29, 2017, 09:42:37 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #816 on: January 29, 2017, 09:42:01 PM »
Eddie's skills at detecting cadaver scent have been shown in court in the Theresa Parker case. OG were looking for a cadaver in Luz. Mark Harrison recommended the best dogs for this case.

"The use of a specialist EVRD (Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog) and CSI dog (human blood detecting dog) could potentially indicate on whether Madeline's blood is in the property or the scent of a dead body is present. In relation to the dead body scent if such a scent is indicated by the EVRD and no body is located it may suggest that a body has been in the property but removed."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

That's right
It may suggest
It doesn't even say it suggests
So absolutely no confirmation

Offline sadie

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #817 on: January 30, 2017, 12:09:35 AM »
Fine, so the PJ were looking at the same video the rest of us can see. The quality of the online video only shows Eddie going to a point between 1 and 2 foot off the ground next to a chair and knocking/pulling CC and something else onto the floor and moving off.

From watching other parts of the search, it is not a slow process with the dog moving round areas, onto tables, chairs and sides, into cupboards etc with speed and energy.

So in my view, it is not throwing or playing with CC as the supporters would have it.
We have all seen CCat being played with and tossed in the air.  You must have an ... errm , short memory Slarti

Offline sadie

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #818 on: January 30, 2017, 12:38:41 AM »
You've read the quote of Inspector Dias describing Eddie playing with cuddle-cat.

The videos no longer show the sequence.

The sequence has been edited out.

The editing out of Eddie throwing Ccat in the air happens @ between 2.12 and 2.15.  Between Eddie running, then suddenly lieing down

Previously, after 2.12, Eddie ran back past Ccat and returned again tossing Ccat in the air.

Yet more fraudulence on the internet attached to this case.   Someone people is are intent on hiding the truth.   I wonder why? 

There must be a lot of money involved methinks.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #819 on: January 30, 2017, 03:27:05 AM »
Eddie's cadaver scent detecting skills have been shown in court in the Theresa Parker case. OG were looking for a cadaver in Luz. Mark Harrison recommended the best dogs for this case.

"The use of a specialist EVRD (Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog) and CSI dog (human blood detecting dog) could potentially indicate on whether Madeline's blood is in the property or the scent of a dead body is present. In relation to the dead body scent if such a scent is indicated by the EVRD and no body is located it may suggest that a body has been in the property but removed."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm
But remember in the case where no body is located but only cadaver scent detected by the EVRD the cadaver does not have a label.  It may or may not be Madeleine's cadaver.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #820 on: January 30, 2017, 04:19:53 AM »
But remember in the case where no body is located but only cadaver scent detected by the EVRD the cadaver does not have a label.  It may or may not be Madeleine's cadaver.

It may not even be cadaver scent at all.  Don't forget the key fob.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #821 on: January 30, 2017, 06:41:50 AM »
It may not even be cadaver scent at all.  Don't forget the key fob.
True but in Eddie's history that was only about 5% probability that it was not cadaver odour.  Key fob had cadaver odour plus blood IMO.
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stephen25000

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Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #822 on: January 30, 2017, 07:26:29 AM »
We have all seen CCat being played with and tossed in the air.  You must have an ... errm , short memory Slarti

Do you have a dog ?

Have you seen dog employed in searching ?

They still play even when searching.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #823 on: January 30, 2017, 07:55:39 AM »
If the alerts have no evidential reliability it can only be that they have not been proved to be reliable

 Can anyone give any other reason as to why the alerts are not accepted as evidence

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #824 on: January 30, 2017, 09:07:04 AM »
If the alerts have no evidential reliability it can only be that they have not been proved to be reliable

 Can anyone give any other reason as to why the alerts are not accepted as evidence
An alert doesn't tell you when it happened, who it was, whether it was criminal or not.
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