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Offline Myster

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #90 on: December 29, 2018, 04:53:50 PM »
I agree, but we do not know what aliases Sami used.
Well, someone does...

 *After my trial, dad’s father-in-law told our team that “Sami could easily accumulate enemies” (LE).


When someone has gone out of their way to cover their tracks as elaborately as my dad, trying to uncover them is fiendishly difficult. Just trying to access data from companies, banks, and mobile phone operators after someone has passed away is hard enough. We’ve contacted places like Tesco for example, to find out information about when and where dad last used loyalty cards under his ‘Samuel Alexander’ alias when, as he often did, he paid in cash rather than by card. Many have refused to disclose anything to us on the basis that the Data Protection Act only applies to ‘living individuals’. We’ve also approached bodies like HMRC and the UK Cards Association for details about investigations conducted into my father’s affairs, and whether they have evidence as to known associates, linked accounts, and so on. We haven’t had any luck there yet either, for the same reason, so we will need to seek a court order to compel them to release this vital data to us.
Legally speaking then, we can only get at his other aliases through his core alias, and only if the connection has been made. Simply approaching a company for information about x registered at y address when neither x or y are officially linked to you in any way is an impossibility. We’re essentially trying to do what the police should have done 7 years ago but without their powers, and with ever-diminishing guarantees that records will have survived. When we made enquiries with BT and EE we discovered that cell site data is deleted after 12 months and bills after 2 years – “these records are not copied as archived tapes, nor stored on any other media”. Crucial evidence has thus already been lost and could still be trickling away.
‘Samuel Alexander’ was a name first adopted by my father in 2004, though I can find no record of a deed poll certificate. It looks like he gradually transferred assets from his birth name to ‘Samuel Alexander’ over the next 4 years or so. Dad was originally christened ‘Sami Fahmi Yacoub El-Kalyoubi’ and many of his aliases were simply variations of this. As far as I know, with one exception, he always used the first name Sam, Sami, Samuel, or Simon in real life (though he was more inventive online). The full list of known surnames is:


Alexander, El-Kalyoubi, Kaloubi, Yacoub, Jacob, Wahba, Boshra, Demetrius, Fernandez.

‘Fernandez’ being the exception in which he used the forename ‘Carlos’ instead of one beginning with ‘S’, and ‘Jacob’ where ‘Karl’ has been used on occasion.*


http://www.rottenborough.org.uk/SamiElKalyoubi.html
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*From MA's official website, to make for easier reading.

 

Offline John

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #91 on: December 29, 2018, 11:24:02 PM »
If Mark Alexander is to be believed, his father was a veritable James Bond figure.  Sadly however, I think the reality was much simpler.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #92 on: December 31, 2018, 01:02:22 PM »
If Mark Alexander is to be believed, his father was a veritable James Bond figure.  Sadly however, I think the reality was much simpler.

For an allegedly intelligent guy he certainly comes up with some sad excuses.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Fact Checker

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #93 on: January 02, 2019, 11:01:41 AM »
Apparently Mark found Sami's main mobile phone in their car when he returned to London on the 5th Sept.  It went flat two days later and was returned to be recharged on his next trip back home. Police found that one during a house search, along with a number of empty boxes belonging to other phones.  No mention of those being found though.

That's right, only one of Sami's mobile phones was ever found. Without knowing what SIM card was used in each of the others, the empty boxes only tell us so much.

The home PC was shared between Mark and Sami, with separate logins.

I'm not sure if Mark needed to buy any new contract and hub, if the home PC was a shared one as claimed.  Maybe FC will clarify?

Mark was a software designer, not a hardware technician. He had never set up his own broadband contract before, so wasn't really familiar with the process. Delays by BT and Orange, meant the broadband in London was only connected on 26 October. Mark returned the home hub on his next visit home in November.

We have gathered evidence that conclusively establishes Sami's use of 6 aliases, and investigations are ongoing into 5 more.

http://www.freemarkalexander.org/faq/#financial
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Offline Fact Checker

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #94 on: January 02, 2019, 11:12:06 AM »
If Sami was living in the family home at any time between September and November 2009 then his utility and internet accounts will reflect that fact.  I look forward to them being posted.

http://www.freemarkalexander.org/faq/#electricity

Following suggestions from this Forum, we checked Sami's electricity and water usage between July and December 2009. The records don't give a week by week account of his usage, but analysis of the trend over that quarter is certainly consistent with Sami being alive in mid-October, since the rates of consumption did not fall during September at all. This fits with the pathologists' findings that Sami could indeed have been alive in mid-October, and the three independent sightings of him over that period so far.
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Offline Fact Checker

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #95 on: January 02, 2019, 11:23:54 AM »
It [The Serious Case Review] would have been looked at and that is part of the reason the police came to the conclusion that Sami was murdered in August.

http://www.freemarkalexander.org/serious-case-review/

One would certainly like to think so. Three of the police officers involved in Mark's case sat on this Serious Case Review, which met 5 times before and during Mark's trial. The Review was convened on 16 June 2010, at the request of the police, before the trial had started. It was, for all the world, a secret inquiry. The evidence gathered during the Review process wasn't disclosed to the defence, and they weren't even told that the Review had been launched in the first place. Neither Mark, nor Sami's family, were invited to take part in the Review process, and only found out about it a year later.
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Offline Daisy

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #96 on: January 03, 2019, 07:37:27 AM »
That's right, only one of Sami's mobile phones was ever found. Without knowing what SIM card was used in each of the others, the empty boxes only tell us so much.

The home PC was shared between Mark and Sami, with separate logins.

Mark was a software designer, not a hardware technician. He had never set up his own broadband contract before, so wasn't really familiar with the process. Delays by BT and Orange, meant the broadband in London was only connected on 26 October. Mark returned the home hub on his next visit home in November.

We have gathered evidence that conclusively establishes Sami's use of 6 aliases, and investigations are ongoing into 5 more.

http://www.freemarkalexander.org/faq/#financial

I don’t believe this version of events. None of us are familiar with the process of setting up a broadband contract but BT are efficient and the customer receives an email following set up. This gives details of the contract, charges and when the hub will be delivered. There is also a 14 day cooling off period. Mark is not stupid so will have read through this and understood this. Also there was no need to remove the computer and hub from the family home. Why would he want to cut off his fathers contact with the outside world?  Of course Mark was unaware of his fathers sordid activities at that time. Mark worked at IBM so had use of a computer there. He was also at university and every one has a computer room for students to use complete with internet access.

What has Orange got to do with this? The contract was with BT. You don’t have an internet contract with two suppliers. Mark said his father had other access to the internet without a computer or internet access at home. Where was this and why did he not access the internet after 5th September?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #97 on: January 03, 2019, 09:39:02 AM »
http://www.freemarkalexander.org/serious-case-review/

One would certainly like to think so. Three of the police officers involved in Mark's case sat on this Serious Case Review, which met 5 times before and during Mark's trial. The Review was convened on 16 June 2010, at the request of Thames Valley Police, before the trial had started. It was, for all the world, a secret inquiry. The evidence gathered during the Review process wasn't disclosed to the defence, and they weren't even told that the Review had been launched in the first place. Neither Mark, nor Sami's family, were invited to take part in the Review process, and only found out about it a year later.

Re the Serious Case Revview

Very interesting Daisy.  It would seem that this Review does indeed drive a coach and horses through much of Mark's claims regarding events after mid August.

The claim that this cantankerous frail old man had taken off to London on his own frankly appears somewhat preposterous given the evidence by the care professionals.  It would also seem that no care assistants were ever employed by Samuel despite the direct payments being made to him.  It would also appear that Mark was indeed withdrawing these funds for his own use.

From this Review it is established that the last time Samuel had any verifiable contact with any care professionals was mid August 2009 which would coincide with the claims by police.

It would be interesting to hear Mark's response to this Review?
A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes

Offline Fact Checker

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #98 on: January 03, 2019, 11:16:40 AM »
Re the Serious Case Review

Hi Nicholas, please see our response to John on an earlier thread:

As I think we revealed on another thread, Mark's lawyers recently tracked down one of the household assistants Sami had hired to work for him. She had approached the police in February 2009, but no statement was ever taken. She had been working at Sami's home in August 2009, and confirmed that there were other people working there too. She was unable to identify who they were however, which brings us back to square one. Who were they, and why have they never come forward?
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Offline Fact Checker

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #99 on: January 03, 2019, 02:44:31 PM »
Is that a black electric cable, leading from a metal back box fixed on the house wall to what appears to be a grey PVC tube then to some sort of underground meter or junction box covered with rectangular patch of gravel / concrete on the lower left? Or is it fibre-optic cable for a new broadband installation?

This is an electric cable that would have provided power to lights and a water feature in the area under construction (where the pallets of bricks are). You can see the other end of it coming out infront of the brick pallets.

The phone line is actually on the far right of the house in this picture, underneath the window where the metal plate is (behind the potted bush).



All these building materials to carry out hard landscaping but I bet Sami Alexander never bought any of it?

Sami bought all of these materials. The largest purchases appear in his account statements. The most recent ones were:

18 June 2009: This was the pallet of bricks you can see on the front drive, and other building materials. These were delivered to the house by truck.

21 August 2009: Sami collected fencing materials from the depot at Travis Perkins, and purchased building materials from Dewsons (we think this was the large blue bag of sand you can see outside the house) which were delivered to the house by truck as well.

Are these bags of sand in the garage, and if so, are / were they the same type used to create the three mortar layers?

These are bags of Kiln Dried Sand, which weren't used in the mortar. There was also a vast blue canvas bag full of sand in front of the house, with still more nearly finished bags to the rear (see below). Despite this abundance of building materials, one of the unusual findings to come from the Chartered Engineer and Geologist was that "these materials would differ from those found in the mortar samples. The cement in the mortar is a completely different formulation and the sand is coarser in terms of silica content".

In other words, none of the sand or cement bags that you can see on the site appear in the mortar mix in which Sami was buried.



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Offline John

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #100 on: January 03, 2019, 02:51:24 PM »





Despite this abundance of building materials, one of the unusual findings to come from the Chartered Engineer and Geologist was that "these materials would differ from those found in the mortar samples. The cement in the mortar is a completely different formulation and the sand is coarser in terms of silica content".

In other words, none of the sand or cement bags that you can see on the site appear in the mortar mix in which Sami was buried.

If that was indeed the case then Mark obviously purchased a mortar mix elsewhere on at least two occasions, quite possibly Postcrete or something similar, which only requires water to be poured over it in situ with no mixing required.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #101 on: January 03, 2019, 02:58:35 PM »
That's right, only one of Sami's mobile phones was ever found. Without knowing what SIM card was used in each of the others, the empty boxes only tell us so much.

The home PC was shared between Mark and Sami, with separate logins.

Mark was a software designer, not a hardware technician. He had never set up his own broadband contract before, so wasn't really familiar with the process. Delays by BT and Orange, meant the broadband in London was only connected on 26 October. Mark returned the home hub on his next visit home in November.

We have gathered evidence that conclusively establishes Sami's use of 6 aliases, and investigations are ongoing into 5 more.

http://www.freemarkalexander.org/faq/#financial

What relevance has Sami using aliases have to his murder and burial at home?  Many people use different names depending on who they are interacting with and many foreigners adopt English names when they come to live and work in the UK and only use their real name when conversing with others of the same ethnic and cultural background.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Fact Checker

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #102 on: January 03, 2019, 03:15:12 PM »
If that was indeed the case then Mark obviously purchased a mortar mix elsewhere on at least two occasions, quite possibly Postcrete or something similar, which only requires water to be poured over it in situ with no mixing required.

There is no evidence that Mark made any such purchases. He also lacked the necessary skill to mix and lay the mortar to a consistently professional standard across all three layers. Most importantly though, he lacked the time. It's impossible to physically place him at the scene long enough to carry everything out. A lot of work has gone into stress testing this conclusion, and it doesn't break. This is one of the key elements of his upcoming appeal.

What relevance has Sami using aliases have to his murder and burial at home?  Many people use different names depending on who they are interacting with and many foreigners adopt English names when they come to live and work in the UK and only use their real name when conversing with others of the same ethnic and cultural background.

But eleven different names? Registered at different GPs, to different addresses, enrolling Mark at different schools as a child? Perpetrating credit and benefit frauds across three counties?

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?usp=sharing&mid=1KA3FOKs9h4rHVnYRoVBGS1AxegcQzcx0

His aliases are relevant to identifying alternative suspects. There is a strong possibility that he was killed as a direct result of his activities under an alias.

His aliases are also relevant in explaining how he was able to go off-grid, access alternative sources of money, and use alternative means of communication.

Please see the thread below for more:

The police have a duty to pursue all reasonable lines of inquiry, whether they point towards or away from the suspect. In practice however, with time constraints and fiscal pressures, this tends not to happen. Focus is drawn to avenues of inquiry which implicate the suspect in order to strengthen the likelihood of a successful conviction...
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #103 on: January 07, 2019, 03:37:37 PM »
There is no evidence that Mark made any such purchases. He also lacked the necessary skill to mix and lay the mortar to a consistently professional standard across all three layers. Most importantly though, he lacked the time. It's impossible to physically place him at the scene long enough to carry everything out. A lot of work has gone into stress testing this conclusion, and it doesn't break. This is one of the key elements of his upcoming appeal.

But eleven different names? Registered at different GPs, to different addresses, enrolling Mark at different schools as a child? Perpetrating credit and benefit frauds across three counties?

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?usp=sharing&mid=1KA3FOKs9h4rHVnYRoVBGS1AxegcQzcx0

His aliases are relevant to identifying alternative suspects. There is a strong possibility that he was killed as a direct result of his activities under an alias.

His aliases are also relevant in explaining how he was able to go off-grid, access alternative sources of money, and use alternative means of communication.

Please see the thread below for more:

A James bond type character? A spy?  it is possible that he was murdered due to one of his alieses. If it was a contract killing then what contract killer would go to the bother of moving his body and burying it at his home?

I also find the idea that Mark being A software engineer wouldn't know how to set up a hub or internet access. At uni he would have to do basic IT which includes: security, networking, databases etc. And even more importantly as a software engineer he would be able to remove all the data from the pc for anlysis.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Fact Checker

Re: Why did Mark lie claiming his father was living with friends in London?
« Reply #104 on: January 08, 2019, 10:38:42 AM »
I don’t believe this version of events. Mark is not stupid so will have read through this and understood this. Why would he want to cut off his fathers contact with the outside world?

At trial, Mark explained that his father insisted he took the hub with him because he felt Mark would need it for his studies and running his business. We know that this couldn't have been Sami's only means of accessing the internet. His other phones and devices enabled him to maintain the connections he needed or wanted.

What has Orange got to do with this? The contract was with BT. You don’t have an internet contract with two suppliers. Mark said his father had other access to the internet without a computer or internet access at home. Where was this and why did he not access the internet after 5th September?

The phone line was reconnected by BT on 13 October, and operated by them. The broadband service was provided by Orange (via the BT line) and activated on 26 October, as you can see in these attachments.

I also find the idea that Mark being A software engineer wouldn't know how to set up a hub or internet access. At uni he would have to do basic IT which includes: security, networking, databases etc. And even more importantly as a software engineer he would be able to remove all the data from the pc for anlysis.

Mark studied law at university, not computer science, but he was running his own software business at the time. Mark isn't saying that he didn't know how to set it up, only that he didn't know whether Orange provided customers with a hub or not, since he hadn't taken out a contract with them before. The assumption Daisy rightly makes about the BT service doesn't automatically apply to everyone else.
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