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Offline misty

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1515 on: February 11, 2017, 12:46:46 AM »
This is from the judgement:
 "However, even in the filing order serious reservations are raised as to the likelihood of the allegation that Madeleine had been abducted. Taking into account the doubts raised by the Jane Tanner/Kate McCann version.

Those doubts that the investigation intended to see clarified by the reconstitution of the events mentioned in the closing dispatch, an initiative however that was made unfeasible by the witnesses' failure to appear after being summoned to".


What has the failure of witnesses to attend a reconstruction got to do with the Supreme Court's assessment of the defendant's right to freedom of expression about the plaintiffs?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1516 on: February 11, 2017, 01:33:26 AM »
This is from the judgement:
 "However, even in the filing order serious reservations are raised as to the likelihood of the allegation that Madeleine had been abducted. Taking into account the doubts raised by the Jane Tanner/Kate McCann version.

Those doubts that the investigation intended to see clarified by the reconstitution of the events mentioned in the closing dispatch, an initiative however that was made unfeasible by the witnesses' failure to appear after being summoned to".

Was Kate asked to attend?  So why does the SC make the McCanns suffer for Jez Wilkins' reluctance to attend.

What was the Jane Tanner/Kate McCann version?   Kate had no idea of what Jane saw. 
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Offline Brietta

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1517 on: February 11, 2017, 02:43:59 AM »
It is really extraordinary that the word of a convicted torturer and the rights of a convicted perjurer have overridden the rights in the opinion of the Portuguese judiciary of people who have no criminal convictions to their name.

The appeal court judges are not ignorant of European Human Rights Law.  They have referred to it in their judgement.  They have merely chosen to treat it with contempt.


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Two chief inspectors of the PJ - (One of whom is Tavares de Almeida, author of the interim report) - today were sentenced sentenced to two and a half years' imprisonment, suspended on payment of a monthly fine in that period, for having tortured a man at DCCB's premises in March 2000.
http://expresso.sapo.pt/sociedade/dois-inspetores-da-pj-condenados-por-tortura=f782292


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The Judicial Court of Faro yesterday condemned the former coordinator of the Judicial Police (PJ), Gonçalo Amaral (already retired) to a year and a half in prison for false testimony during the investigation of the case Joana, who himself led , And inspector António Nunes Cardoso at two years and three months. Both with suspended sentence due to falsification of document, in which it related the fall in the stairs of Leonor Cipriano, in one of the interrogations in the Directory of Faro.
http://www.dn.pt/dossiers/sociedade/caso-joana/noticias/interior/leonor-cipriano-foi-torturada-mas-nao-ha-prova-de-culpados-1241588.html


The freedom of being able to express the opinion that two blameless individuals are guilty of the most heinous offences at the sacrifice of the human rights of those two individuals not to be slandered on National TV, libelled in books and articles at the expense of their right to presumption of innocence, makes a mockery of the Portuguese justice system.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2017, 09:29:09 AM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline misty

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1518 on: February 11, 2017, 03:25:03 AM »
 
It is really extraordinary that the word of a convicted torturer and the rights of a convicted perjurer have overridden the rights in the opinion of the Portuguese judiciary of people who have no criminal convictions to their name.

The appeal court judges are not ignorant of European Human Rights Law.  They have referred to it in their judgement.  They have merely chosen to treat it with contempt.


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Two chief inspectors of the PJ - (One of whom is Tavares de Almeida, author of the interim report) - today were sentenced sentenced to two and a half years' imprisonment, suspended on payment of a monthly fine in that period, for having tortured a man at DCCB's premises in March 2000.
http://expresso.sapo.pt/sociedade/dois-inspetores-da-pj-condenados-por-tortura=f782292


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The Judicial Court of Faro yesterday condemned the former coordinator of the Judicial Police (PJ), Gonçalo Amaral (already retired) to a year and a half in prison for false testimony during the investigation of the case Joana, who himself led , And inspector António Nunes Cardoso at two years and three months. Both with suspended sentence due to falsification of document, in which it related the fall in the stairs of Leonor Cipriano, in one of the interrogations in the Directory of Faro.
http://www.dn.pt/dossiers/sociedade/caso-joana/noticias/interior/leonor-cipriano-foi-torturada-mas-nao-ha-prova-de-culpados-1241588.html


The freedom of being able to express the opinion that two blameless individuals are guilty of the most heinous offences at the sacrifice of the human rights of those two individuals not to be slandered on National TV, libelled in books and articles at the expense of their right to presumption of innocence, makes a mockery of the Portuguese justice system.

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So very true, Brietta - yet so many try to devalue the human rights of the McCanns by disagreeing, blind to the prejudice they cling to in their own minds.

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1519 on: February 11, 2017, 05:42:02 AM »
It is really extraordinary that the word of a convicted torturer and the rights of a convicted perjurer have overridden the rights in the opinion of the Portuguese judiciary of people who have no criminal convictions to their name.

The appeal court judges are not ignorant of European Human Rights Law.  They have referred to it in their judgement.  They have merely chosen to treat it with contempt.


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Two chief inspectors of the PJ - (One of whom is Tavares de Almeida, author of the interim report) - today were sentenced sentenced to two and a half years' imprisonment, suspended on payment of a monthly fine in that period, for having tortured a man at DCCB's premises in March 2000.
http://expresso.sapo.pt/sociedade/dois-inspetores-da-pj-condenados-por-tortura=f782292


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The Judicial Court of Faro yesterday condemned the former coordinator of the Judicial Police (PJ), Gonçalo Amaral (already retired) to a year and a half in prison for false testimony during the investigation of the case Joana, who himself led , And inspector António Nunes Cardoso at two years and three months. Both with suspended sentence due to falsification of document, in which it related the fall in the stairs of Leonor Cipriano, in one of the interrogations in the Directory of Faro.
http://www.dn.pt/dossiers/sociedade/caso-joana/noticias/interior/leonor-cipriano-foi-torturada-mas-nao-ha-prova-de-culpados-1241588.html


The freedom of being able to express the opinion that two blameless individuals are guilty of the most heinous offences at the sacrifice of the human rights of those two individuals not to be slandered on National TV, libelled in books and articles at the expense of their right to presumption of innocence, makes a mockery of the Portuguese justice system.

The Mccann's are far from blameless.

Their actions instigated this case, and to date, no other party has been found to be involved.

Likewise, as per normal, I see no indication from you whatsoever that the Mccann's did anything wrong, when clearly and undeniably they did.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2017, 05:56:02 AM by stephen25000 »

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1520 on: February 11, 2017, 05:45:31 AM »
The Mccann's are far from blameless.

Their actions instigated this case, and to date, no other party has been found to be involved.

isnt it  funny how mcann supporters never blame the  mcanns  for   any of this  they blame everybody else but them

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1521 on: February 11, 2017, 05:47:38 AM »
isnt it  funny how mcann supporters never blame the  mcanns  for   any of this  they blame everybody else but them

Exactly Carlymichelle.

Even now, the pro-Mccann propaganda machine is still in operation.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1522 on: February 11, 2017, 09:20:04 AM »
Exactly Carlymichelle.

Even now, the pro-Mccann propaganda machine is still in operation.

There is no propaganda machine
It's in your imagination

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1523 on: February 11, 2017, 09:30:54 AM »
There is no propaganda machine
It's in your imagination

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Pull the other one.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1524 on: February 11, 2017, 09:59:31 AM »
@)(++(* @)(++(*

Pull the other one.
Not on here there isnt

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1525 on: February 11, 2017, 10:11:09 AM »
Not on here there isnt

That is a matter of opinion.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1526 on: February 11, 2017, 10:15:41 AM »
That is a matter of opinion.

It is not
If you are making accusations of some sort of organised action here you should back it up but you can't because it's rubbish

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1527 on: February 11, 2017, 10:26:30 AM »
It is not
If you are making accusations of some sort of organised action here you should back it up but you can't because it's rubbish

That is my opinion.

I'm not going to change it.

I suggest you refer back to the Leveson inquiry, which has been done on this forum, and the admittance of Kate Mccann.

You certainly will not silence my opinion, whether on here or elsewhere.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1528 on: February 11, 2017, 10:41:50 AM »
That is my opinion.

I'm not going to change it.

I suggest you refer back to the Leveson inquiry, which has been done on this forum, and the admittance of Kate Mccann.

You certainly will not silence my opinion, whether on here or elsewhere.

You don't seem to read posts properly
It's your opinion and imo it's ridiculous
You also need to look at what was said at Levenson
You've got that wrong as well

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1529 on: February 11, 2017, 10:45:14 AM »
You don't seem to read posts properly
It's your opinion and imo it's ridiculous
You also need to look at what was said at Levenson
You've got that wrong as well

I read Levenson, and the comments made by Kate Mccann in reference to Michael Wright.


...and your opinion is irrelevant.