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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1875 on: February 19, 2017, 05:33:20 PM »
The child minding was mentioned in the SC judgement IIRC.
OK I can't recall if they mentioned the McCann fund.  I'm sure they did, directly or indirectly.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1876 on: February 19, 2017, 05:36:47 PM »
As with everything and anything there is a process to be gone through.  A beginning a middle and an end.  If there remains justice in Portugal, the McCanns may well find it unnecessary to progress to the end stage which is the European Court.

They have the legal right to appeal the judgement made against them. That displays pragmatism ~ hardly arrogance.  What is rather obscure is your reasoning by which you would deny them their rights in law.

The 'nugget' you proclaim (in your opinion a golden one perhaps) is nought but an old chestnut.  I am afraid the eagerness to halt the search for Madeleine McCann has been palpable ~ in my opinion ~  over the years since her disappearance. The sentiment has featured amongst sceptic posts from twitter - to facebook - to youtube - to blog - to newspaper replies under articles and back again.

Although just one amongst many I find it the most unedifying aspect displayed by sceptics and in common with all else had its genesis with Amaral and his 'fraudulent fund'.

1.To what end?
2.That is questionable. Do you have evidence that the Portuguese system allows appeal against the judgement of the highest court in their land? Please share, it will make interesting reading providing an opportunity for the unedified sceptics to be better informed.
3. Again do you have evidence that the fund for Sr Amarals legal fees is in fact fraudulent. Or is your usage of speechy marky pieces significant?

Seems to me like the usual huffing and puffing without about three lin.m of cut and paste.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1877 on: February 19, 2017, 05:37:20 PM »
Giving an opinion on something that hasn't been read sentence by sentence seems frivolous to me.
The forum's analysis was what I was referring to.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1878 on: February 19, 2017, 05:41:17 PM »
1.To what end?
2.That is questionable. Do you have evidence that the Portuguese system allows appeal against the judgement of the highest court in their land? Please share, it will make interesting reading providing an opportunity for the unedified sceptics to be better informed.
3. Again do you have evidence that the fund for Sr Amarals legal fees is in fact fraudulent. Or is your usage of speechy marky pieces significant?

Seems to me like the usual huffing and puffing without about three lin.m of cut and paste.
Good questions thanks Alice.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1879 on: February 19, 2017, 05:45:22 PM »
Can the McCanns claim that in the eyes of the law they are innocent or does having once been an arguido mean that they cannot make that claim ever again?

They can claim anything they like except that the archiving dispatch 'cleared' them.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1880 on: February 19, 2017, 05:48:05 PM »
They can claim anything they like except that the archiving dispatch 'cleared' them.
Didn't it claim there was insufficient proof of guilt, which by implication, means they have to be presumed innocent.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1881 on: February 19, 2017, 05:52:27 PM »
Only if it comforts you to say so.

Having been misinformed there was no appeal and being daft enough to accept that despite the sources, I thought the only recourse was to the European court.

Personally I would have given the McCanns only a very slight chance of success in a properly conducted appeal process, and thought they might not even bother appealing that decision.   That was prior to reading the judgement.

The appeal court judges have gone out of their way to overstep the mark in their ruling in every which way it was possible to do so.  They have made it impossible for the injured parties to ignore their judgement.  In my opinion it is worth mentioning that not only has their obvious bias been deliberately injurious to Madeleine and her family it has called Portuguese law into disrepute.

In which way have the judges 'gone out of their way to overstep the mark'? Such statements mean nothing unless they are explained imo. You are accusing them of deliberately attacking the McCann family. How?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1882 on: February 19, 2017, 06:01:21 PM »
They go hand in hand.

Thic case has not been about Madeleine since the first judge dismissed the claims made on her behalf. It has been solely about her parents, no-one else.

They thought the archiving dispatch 'cleared' them but that wasn't it's function.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #1883 on: February 19, 2017, 06:10:29 PM »
The forum's analysis was what I was referring to.

The forum's analysis seems to consist of people accusing the judges of being biased and of plotting to make the McCann family suffer. People then accuse the judges of saying things they didn't say to 'prove' it. They provide no cites to support their accusations and ignore those who do provide cites showing what the judges actually said and why. 
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Offline barrier

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1884 on: February 19, 2017, 06:10:54 PM »
I've read the verdict.  Have you?

Yes thank you,I don't claim to understand the intricacies of Portuguese law,yourself?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1885 on: February 19, 2017, 07:08:34 PM »
Thic case has not been about Madeleine since the first judge dismissed the claims made on her behalf. It has been solely about her parents, no-one else.

They thought the archiving dispatch 'cleared' them but that wasn't it's function.

This case is about Madeleine McCann from first to last.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1886 on: February 19, 2017, 07:14:25 PM »
The forum's analysis seems to consist of people accusing the judges of being biased and of plotting to make the McCann family suffer. People then accuse the judges of saying things they didn't say to 'prove' it. They provide no cites to support their accusations and ignore those who do provide cites showing what the judges actually said and why.

The forum has taken no collective view on this matter.  Any such suggestion is inaccurate.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1887 on: February 19, 2017, 07:15:41 PM »
This case is about Madeleine McCann from first to last.

Madeleine is not involved in the case in question .
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Offline Brietta

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1888 on: February 19, 2017, 07:17:32 PM »
Madeleine is not involved in the case in question .

In your opinion, perhaps.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1889 on: February 19, 2017, 07:38:31 PM »
In your opinion, perhaps.

The children's claims were dismissed by the first judge;

VIII. Fully dismiss the requests made in the attached action by the claimants  MADELEINE MCCANN, SEAN MICHAEL MCCANN and AMELIE EVE MCCANN.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6307.0

Those are the facts, upon which an opinion can be based that the children were not involved from 27th April 2015.
Which facts are your opinion based on?




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