Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.

[Brietta]

So you agree, Amaral tortured no one ?

...and this thing with his brother, what does it have to do with this case and Tuesdays decision ?

I don't know exactly what he was doing while present and nominally in charge in the police station at the time  a prisoner was the object of vicious torture being inflicted on her by police officers.  Neither does she ... because they had put a bag over her head.
What I do know is that he perjured himself regarding the incident.

Therefore to answer your question ... no ... I do not agree with your assertion, for the simple reason, I do not know.

Wonder why it is you are in denial about a criminal conviction for dishonesty ... but craic on interminably about Kate McCann.

Re defrauding his brother ... you asked the question ... I answered you.

[stephen25000]

I don't know exactly what he was doing while present and nominally in charge in the police station at the time  a prisoner was the object of vicious torture being inflicted on her by police officers.  Neither does she ... because they had put a bag over her head.
What I do know is that he perjured himself regarding the incident.

Therefore to answer your question ... no ... I do not agree with your assertion, for the simple reason, I do not know.

Wonder why it is you are in denial about a criminal conviction for dishonesty ... but craic on interminably about Kate McCann.

Re defrauding his brother ... you asked the question ... I answered you.

I know what the conviction was for.

Meanwhile it doesn't change the McCann's situation one iota.

I can't understand, why some people devoutly support the McCann's.

[Mr Gray]

I know what the conviction was for.

Meanwhile it doesn't change the McCann's situation one iota.

I can't understand, why some people devoutly support the McCann's.

And I don't understand why people are so vile and abusive towards them




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[Alice Purjorick]

For those who are interested the winner of a civil action in Portugal can claim from the losing party;

a) the justice tax paid by the winning party
b) the process charges paid by the winning party
c) 50% of the amount paid by the losing party for the justice tax for compensation
towards legal services of the winning party

The amounts of the fees are calculated in relation to the value of the initial claim.

Each additional hearing or appeal adds further costs.

Oh dear! so a percentage of what they asked fornot waht the Court of First Instance awarded. That's a big number, 1.2MM (pdst stg or Euros?) either way still alot.

[Alice Purjorick]

Amaral's book is littered with examples, either of lies, or of careless references grossly at variance with the truth.

That particular horse if it ever existed has long since bolted.
The Court has ruled and it cannot be overturned. I am sure the entire Portuguese nation is devastated at the fact you think they are whatever it is you think they are. Watch out the Moorish part don't put out a fatwa on you ....

[Alice Purjorick]

Yes ... it has indeed been to court and is a matter of record.  It proved a horrendously expensive exercise for him as well as illustrating that his financial difficulties do not stem from Madeleine's case.

We don't care. It has no relevance to the case in point or this thread.

[Mr Gray]

We don't care. It has no relevance to the case in point or this thread.

It has relevance to claims taht amaral will sue the mccanns for damage to his reputation which is directly connected to this thread

[Mr Gray]

I understand fine.

What you and others have to come to terms with is the enormity of the McCann's defeat, which I and others predicted.

To be honest I havent come to terms with the mccanns defeat but Im not too worried as it wont affect me in the slightest. Im off on holiday tuesday and will have a great time

[Alice Purjorick]

Portugal will lose.   Tourists will go elsewhere.   They will lose in the court of public opinion.

Do you mean like the amount of tourism the UK lost when the ECHR ordered UK to pay Steel and Morris 57 grand for allowing Steel's and Morris's human rights to be infringed ? I don't notice them staying away in droves as one might say. I doubt many knew or cared.
The McCann case hasn't stopped me or many others from going to Portugal.
The court of public opinion don't exist. This very forum is testament to that.

[G-Unit]

Oh dear! so a percentage of what they asked fornot waht the Court of First Instance awarded. That's a big number, 1.2MM (pdst stg or Euros?) either way still alot.

A case of be careful what you ask for, perhaps. There will undoubtedly be interest to pay on Amaral's frozen assets too. The other defendants will have to be paid also, I would think, unless they settled with them after the first judgement.

[Brietta]

A case of be careful what you ask for, perhaps. There will undoubtedly be interest to pay on Amaral's frozen assets too. The other defendants will have to be paid also, I would think, unless they settled with them after the first judgement.

I would have assumed that the interest on the money that Amaral accrued from the lucrative vehicle of Madeleine McCann's case both as an author and pundit, will be sitting safely in the bank alongside the capital and therefore will not feature.

[G-Unit]

To be honest I havent come to terms with the mccanns defeat but Im not too worried as it wont affect me in the slightest. Im off on holiday tuesday and will have a great time

They were defeated over six months ago. The Supreme Court was a long shot because it had already rejected an Appeal by them previously. 

[stephen25000]

They were defeated over six months ago. The Supreme Court was a long shot because it had already rejected an Appeal by them previously.

Evidently the McCann's didn't learn from that experience.

[jassi]

Evidently the McCann's didn't learn from that experience.

It was a gamble with 500 euro and the costs as the prize.
From what is said, it's not even going to be their money, so easy come easy go

[stephen25000]

It was a gamble with 500 euro and the costs as the prize.
From what is said, it's not even going to be their money, so easy come easy go

No doubt we will know more when the entire judgement is published along with who pays what.

Likewise, what happens if they are not entitled to use the fund ?