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Offline G-Unit

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #945 on: February 06, 2017, 08:59:00 PM »
All goods, beds, cooking implements etc.?
 Seems Draconian. As I said in an earlier post this cannot happen here in Scotland

The High Court Enforcement Officers in England and Scotland can take goods. They can take such things as cars, TV's, golf clubs, computers etc. They cannot take basic household items and furniture which are necessities.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #946 on: February 06, 2017, 09:02:38 PM »
The High Court Enforcement Officers in England and  can take goods. They can take such things as cars, TV's, golf clubs, computers etc. They cannot take basic household items and furniture which are necessities.

They cannot take anything wlthout authorisation from the court

Offline G-Unit

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #947 on: February 06, 2017, 09:09:59 PM »
They cannot take anything wlthout authorisation from the court

I never said they could. Obviously there are procedures. Usually they seize the goods but don't remove them because that stimulates the debtor to find some money and/or to make a payment agreement.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #948 on: February 06, 2017, 09:14:15 PM »
I never said they could. Obviously there are procedures. Usually they seize the goods but don't remove them because that stimulates the debtor to find some money and/or to make a payment agreement.


the court will only make an order if the debtors have not co operated...they will only be expected to pay what they can afford...no more...as  amonthly payment. The debtor has a chance to make a payment agreement first

Offline Eleanor

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #949 on: February 06, 2017, 09:17:19 PM »
All goods, beds, cooking implements etc.?
 Seems Draconian. As I said in an earlier post this cannot happen here in Scotland

No Erngath, nothing like that.  Expensive wrist watches or valuable ornaments perhaps, but not ordinary items of furniture or kitchen equipment.

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #950 on: February 06, 2017, 09:29:49 PM »
There appears to be significant worry that the McCann's will lose valuable personal possessions.

That was never visible when the boot was on the other foot.

Offline xtina

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #951 on: February 06, 2017, 09:34:14 PM »
t least GA keeps his dignity

http://portugalresident.com/tabloid-scramble-cranks-up-pressure-on-%E2%80%9Csecond-maddie-book%E2%80%9D

Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on February 06, 2017
Tabloid scramble cranks up pressure on “second Maddie book”

No sooner had former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral seen his right to freedom of expression upheld by the Supreme Court than UK tabloids have been scrambling themselves into a froth of indignation about a “second Maddie book” in the wings, threatening to pile yet more agony on the pain caused by his first: “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie”.

The fact that Amaral revealed he was writing a second book almost a year ago appears to have passed unnoticed (click here).

Tabloids have been full of the “McCann warning” that lawyers employed by renowned legal firm Carter Ruck “will be watching” in case Amaral publishes anything about the mystery in UK.

While the Sunday Express claims Amaral is looking for a “new publisher”, the Daily Mail describes him as “jubilant” and “finishing off the final chapter of his newly-penned book while taking a break in Switzerland”.

The paper also claims that “Truth of the Lie” was “never translated into English for publication in the UK because it would have breached strict libel laws”.

These are all more than likely to be reports that need to be taken with large quantities of salt.

Carter Ruck’s lawyers may well be watching, but the reality is that the finding of the appeal court last year - and dismissal of the subsequent McCann appeal by the Supreme Court last month - means that “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie” is not considered defamatory after painstaking and rigorous legal challenges.

Indeed the 76-page decision taken by Supreme Court judges shows just how thoroughly the McCann's various claims were studied, and why they were thrown-out as not being sufficient to see Amaral fined vast quantities of money.

What the flurry of stories is more likely to be about is the fact that no-one really knows what Amaral proposes to do next.

He has refused requests for interviews, he has neither confirmed nor denied whether he will be counter-suing the McCanns for damages (as he intimated last year that he would), and he has not revealed when his next book will be ready.

It is the kind of suspense that British media outlets do not enjoy.

Meantime, bystanders have been predicting a new Madeleine sighting, or indeed sightings “any day now” and “as soon as the weather improves” a new visit to Portugal by officers working on Operation Grange - the Metropolitan Police investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance said to have cost the British taxpayer around €15 million and which has been working on a “last throw of the dice” for the last three months.

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #952 on: February 06, 2017, 09:37:46 PM »
There appears to be significant worry that the McCann's will lose valuable personal possessions.

That was never visible when the boot was on the other foot.

There is no significant worry.  I doubt that The McCanns own valuable possessions.  And I wouldn't care if they did.

Amaral has other creditors to pay, and lost his house because he didn't pay the mortgage.  No one actually grabbed his gold earring, did they?

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #953 on: February 06, 2017, 09:38:01 PM »
How can the McCann's afford Carter Ruck now ?

No win, no fee ?  8**8:/:

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #954 on: February 06, 2017, 09:38:21 PM »
t least GA keeps his dignity

http://portugalresident.com/tabloid-scramble-cranks-up-pressure-on-%E2%80%9Csecond-maddie-book%E2%80%9D

Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on February 06, 2017
Tabloid scramble cranks up pressure on “second Maddie book”

No sooner had former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral seen his right to freedom of expression upheld by the Supreme Court than UK tabloids have been scrambling themselves into a froth of indignation about a “second Maddie book” in the wings, threatening to pile yet more agony on the pain caused by his first: “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie”.

The fact that Amaral revealed he was writing a second book almost a year ago appears to have passed unnoticed (click here).

Tabloids have been full of the “McCann warning” that lawyers employed by renowned legal firm Carter Ruck “will be watching” in case Amaral publishes anything about the mystery in UK.

While the Sunday Express claims Amaral is looking for a “new publisher”, the Daily Mail describes him as “jubilant” and “finishing off the final chapter of his newly-penned book while taking a break in Switzerland”.

The paper also claims that “Truth of the Lie” was “never translated into English for publication in the UK because it would have breached strict libel laws”.

These are all more than likely to be reports that need to be taken with large quantities of salt.

Carter Ruck’s lawyers may well be watching, but the reality is that the finding of the appeal court last year - and dismissal of the subsequent McCann appeal by the Supreme Court last month - means that “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie” is not considered defamatory after painstaking and rigorous legal challenges.

Indeed the 76-page decision taken by Supreme Court judges shows just how thoroughly the McCann's various claims were studied, and why they were thrown-out as not being sufficient to see Amaral fined vast quantities of money.

What the flurry of stories is more likely to be about is the fact that no-one really knows what Amaral proposes to do next.

He has refused requests for interviews, he has neither confirmed nor denied whether he will be counter-suing the McCanns for damages (as he intimated last year that he would), and he has not revealed when his next book will be ready.

It is the kind of suspense that British media outlets do not enjoy.

Meantime, bystanders have been predicting a new Madeleine sighting, or indeed sightings “any day now” and “as soon as the weather improves” a new visit to Portugal by officers working on Operation Grange - the Metropolitan Police investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance said to have cost the British taxpayer around €15 million and which has been working on a “last throw of the dice” for the last three months.

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what absolute rubbish...its almost unbeleiveable

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #955 on: February 06, 2017, 09:40:41 PM »
There is no significant worry.  I doubt that The McCanns own valuable possessions.  And I wouldn't care if they did.

Amaral has other creditors to pay, and lost his house because he didn't pay the mortgage.  No one actually grabbed his gold earring, did they?


I have only heard hearsay Eleanor as to what Amral lost in the way of goods in the last few years.

As to the McCann's, time will tell.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #956 on: February 06, 2017, 09:47:16 PM »
So Natasha Donne thinks that the decision in portugal means the book is not libellous in the UK....how can anyone be so stupid

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #957 on: February 06, 2017, 10:03:07 PM »
It appears that the supporters don't watch UK TV? High court enforcement officers take anything of value.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #958 on: February 06, 2017, 10:03:13 PM »
t least GA keeps his dignity

http://portugalresident.com/tabloid-scramble-cranks-up-pressure-on-%E2%80%9Csecond-maddie-book%E2%80%9D

Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on February 06, 2017
Tabloid scramble cranks up pressure on “second Maddie book”

No sooner had former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral seen his right to freedom of expression upheld by the Supreme Court than UK tabloids have been scrambling themselves into a froth of indignation about a “second Maddie book” in the wings, threatening to pile yet more agony on the pain caused by his first: “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie”.

The fact that Amaral revealed he was writing a second book almost a year ago appears to have passed unnoticed (click here).

Tabloids have been full of the “McCann warning” that lawyers employed by renowned legal firm Carter Ruck “will be watching” in case Amaral publishes anything about the mystery in UK.

While the Sunday Express claims Amaral is looking for a “new publisher”, the Daily Mail describes him as “jubilant” and “finishing off the final chapter of his newly-penned book while taking a break in Switzerland”.

The paper also claims that “Truth of the Lie” was “never translated into English for publication in the UK because it would have breached strict libel laws”.

These are all more than likely to be reports that need to be taken with large quantities of salt.

Carter Ruck’s lawyers may well be watching, but the reality is that the finding of the appeal court last year - and dismissal of the subsequent McCann appeal by the Supreme Court last month - means that “Madeleine: The Truth of the Lie” is not considered defamatory after painstaking and rigorous legal challenges.

Indeed the 76-page decision taken by Supreme Court judges shows just how thoroughly the McCann's various claims were studied, and why they were thrown-out as not being sufficient to see Amaral fined vast quantities of money.

What the flurry of stories is more likely to be about is the fact that no-one really knows what Amaral proposes to do next.

He has refused requests for interviews, he has neither confirmed nor denied whether he will be counter-suing the McCanns for damages (as he intimated last year that he would), and he has not revealed when his next book will be ready.

It is the kind of suspense that British media outlets do not enjoy.

Meantime, bystanders have been predicting a new Madeleine sighting, or indeed sightings “any day now” and “as soon as the weather improves” a new visit to Portugal by officers working on Operation Grange - the Metropolitan Police investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance said to have cost the British taxpayer around €15 million and which has been working on a “last throw of the dice” for the last three months.

natasha.donn@algarveresident.com

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i think anything Natasha Donn says should be taken with a large pinch of salt

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #959 on: February 06, 2017, 10:04:09 PM »
It appears that the supporters don't watch UK TV? High court enforcement officers tie anything of value.


you obviously do not understand their powers