Author Topic: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.  (Read 270421 times)

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ferryman

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1035 on: February 07, 2017, 06:01:30 PM »
If the Supreme Court are saying that Eddie and keela detected the scent of human blood and human cadaver then they certainly do not understand the alerts

More to the point, unlike the (exemplary first-instance judge) the (appeal-court) judges didn't read those parts of the files, written by people who understand interpretation of dog-alerts, that state the dog-alerts have no value.

Offline jassi

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1036 on: February 07, 2017, 06:03:21 PM »
I suppose we need to wait for the translation to see exactly what is mentioned.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1037 on: February 07, 2017, 06:08:35 PM »
More to the point, unlike the (exemplary first-instance judge) the (appeal-court) judges didn't read those parts of the files, written by people who understand interpretation of dog-alerts, that state the dog-alerts have no value.

It's all very odd

Offline xtina

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1038 on: February 07, 2017, 06:10:28 PM »
seems the mccs may be re interviewed


http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/mccanns-not-cleared.html


“It should be added that we are before an archival decision by the Public Ministry, which is liable of change by many ways.

As such, besides appealing via jurisdiction, through the opening of an instruction (CPP art.287º), and to making a claim to the higher hierarchy (CPP art. 378º), the inquiry can be reponed if new elements of proof appear that invalidate the grounds invoked by the Public Ministry in the archival dispatch (CPP art. 279º)-

Besides, that is said in the “Note to the Media” disclosed by the PGR on 21/7/08 in which was announced that it had been determined the archival of the inquiry and informed that the “same could be reopened, by initiative of the Public Ministry ou by request of an interested party, if new elements of proof would appear that originated serious, pertinent and consequent diligences” (#14 of proven facts).

In this way, not being the alluded archival dispatch a written decision on a strict sense, nor assuming definitive aspect, much less would be justified the invoking of the principle of presumption of innocence to restrict freedom of expression.” (page 69 of sentence, 1st picture of post)

And:



“And let it not be said, also, that the appellants were cleared by the archival dispatch of the crime-process.

In truth, the alluded dispatch wasn’t pronounced because the Public Ministry gained the conviction that the appellants did not commit any crime (as by nº1 of the art. 277º of the CPP)

Such archival, in the case, was determined because it wasn’t possible for the Public Ministry to obtain enough legally admissible indicia of the practice of a crime by the appellants (as by nº2, art. 277º of CPP)

There is, then, a significant difference, and not merely of semantics, between the grounds legally admissible of the archival dispatch.

It doesn’t seem, then, acceptable that it should be considered that the referred dispatch, grounded on insufficiency of indicia, should be equivalent to the proof of innocence.

We consider, therefore, that the invoking of the breaking of the principle of presumption of innocence, should not be received, not weighing such principle in the decision that has to be taken.” (page 70 of sentence)

Very clearly and very explicitly the Supreme Justice Court is saying that the McCanns have NOT been cleared.

Note, it has not said the McCanns were guilty. It is just saying that they have not been considered by the Portuguese Justice System as innocent.

We do believe that this is historic and rebates definitely all those saying that the couple was cleared by the Portuguese justice.

On January 31 2017 this was set straight.
Posted by Textusa at 10:49



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Offline jassi

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1039 on: February 07, 2017, 06:11:43 PM »
That will be nice for them   8(0(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline John

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1040 on: February 07, 2017, 06:14:30 PM »
From The Portugal Resident

http://portugalresident.com/supreme-court-ruling-opens-new-can-of-worms-for-mccanns

The comments in the Portugal Resident reflect what many have been saying for years.  Nobody can claim to have been cleared until it is proven one way or another what happened to Madeleine. As stated, archiving the case has no significance to anyone's guilt or innocence.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1041 on: February 07, 2017, 06:18:44 PM »
More to the point, unlike the (exemplary first-instance judge) the (appeal-court) judges didn't read those parts of the files, written by people who understand interpretation of dog-alerts, that state the dog-alerts have no value.

They have a value to investigators otherwise why bother with dogs at all. The thing about dog alerts is that they raise suspicion.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1042 on: February 07, 2017, 07:19:04 PM »
The comments in the Portugal Resident reflect what many have been saying for years.  Nobody can claim to have been cleared until it is proven one way or another what happened to Madeleine. As stated, archiving the case has no significance to anyone's guilt or innocence.

So John are you saying that amaral may be right and the McCanns are implicated in a crime

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1043 on: February 07, 2017, 07:24:36 PM »
So John are you saying that amaral may be right and the McCanns are implicated in a crime

Wait and see, for the full translations.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2017, 07:39:54 PM by stephen25000 »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1044 on: February 07, 2017, 07:29:07 PM »
Wait and see, for a he full translations.

The judgement NHS's no bearing on the guilt of the mccanns

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1045 on: February 07, 2017, 07:40:30 PM »
The judgement NHS's no bearing on the guilt of the mccanns

???

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1046 on: February 07, 2017, 07:44:29 PM »
???
The judgement has no bearing on the guilt of the McCanns
Wifi on this plane is very poor

stephen25000

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1047 on: February 07, 2017, 08:20:51 PM »
Translation from the April judgement 2016, as a reminder............

http://pjga.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/full-translation-decision-from.html?spref=tw

An extract...........

' The court should note that all the witnesses are close to the AA, (family member, phycologist and lawyer) and that in their statements they clearly tried to minimise the theories predating the book and the documentary and, at the same time, naturally tried to give special emphasis to the impact of the book and DVD on the general wellbeing (mood)of the AA.

– This is especially so in relation to the witness Michael Terence Wright, who was in charge of assisting the Applicants (AA) in the dissemination of campaigns and monitoring/surveillance of some sites as well as of information present on the internet, after the disappearance of the minor Madeleine Beth McCann. '
« Last Edit: February 07, 2017, 08:41:08 PM by stephen25000 »

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1048 on: February 07, 2017, 08:21:15 PM »
so if im reading this  right  they want to re intervew the mcanns?

Offline jassi

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #1049 on: February 07, 2017, 08:24:14 PM »
so if im reading this  right  they want to re intervew the mcanns?

Yes but just  who is 'they'?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future