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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2070 on: February 24, 2017, 09:22:03 PM »
You tell us.

kidnap involves a ransom and there is every intention to return the kidnapped person
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Offline barrier

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2071 on: February 24, 2017, 09:50:28 PM »
kidnap involves a ransom and there is every intention to return the kidnapped person

I don't think Donald Nielson intended to return his victim.
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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2072 on: February 24, 2017, 09:52:47 PM »
April Jones.  Media blackout?  No.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2073 on: February 24, 2017, 09:54:15 PM »
kidnap involves a ransom and there is every intention to return the kidnapped person

So until the kidnapper makes contact making ransom demands there is no way of knowing whether it is abduction or kidnap.

What do do meantime?. Work on the worst condition or the best condition?.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2074 on: February 24, 2017, 10:10:04 PM »
So until the kidnapper makes contact making ransom demands there is no way of knowing whether it is abduction or kidnap.

What do do meantime?. Work on the worst condition or the best condition?.
you asked for the diference and Ive explained it....I cant keep spoon feeding you..

Alfie

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Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2075 on: February 24, 2017, 10:13:06 PM »
Soham.  Media blackout?  No.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2076 on: February 24, 2017, 10:16:35 PM »
you asked for the diference and Ive explained it....I cant keep spoon feeding you..

I know what I think. I am trying to establish what you think.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2079 on: February 25, 2017, 07:55:53 AM »
Did you actually bother to read these guidelines?

Yes thanks.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2080 on: February 25, 2017, 08:12:51 AM »
Yes thanks.
There is a section of dealing with the media.
"You need to encourage their cooperation and avoid antagonizing them by being
dismissive. If managed properly, the media can be extremely helpful. If managed poorly
they can be very damaging.
If you can find friends, family members or employees who have contacts within media
organizations, you may be able to use them to suppress coverage of an incident.
However, you still need to have a contingency plan in place for handling the media.
Update it regularly as an incident develops.
Preparation
• Nominate which individuals will form the crisis management team in the event of an incident.
• Select and train somebody to act as a spokesperson. Have a second person as
backup in case the spokesperson is not available at the time of the incident.
• Companies with operations outside their home country should have a trained
spokesperson at head office and in each country.
• Make sure there is a dedicated phone line for handling media calls during an incident.
It should have recording equipment attached.
• Make sure you have the equipment available to monitor radio, television, newspaper
and internet reports.
• Put together a contact list of senior people within the local press, radio and TV stations.
During an incident
If members of the public have witnessed the incident, you won’t have much time before the
media makes contact. You will need to action a media management plan straight away.
• Brief your spokesperson about the incident.
• Give the spokesperson’s name and contact details to the rest of the company and the
victim’s family. Brief them not to speak to the media but to refer any inquiries to this
spokesperson.
• Have a defensive media statement ready to use.
• Identify questions that the media might ask and prepare a questions and answers document.
• Review and update your defensive media statement, and questions and answers
documents regularly as the incident develops.
• Ensure that any statements and questions and answers documents are sent to the
nominated spokesperson in other relevant countries. It is important that the same
message is given out throughout the organization.
• Monitor newspapers, magazines, radio, television and internet sites for any coverage
of the incident. The crisis management team will have to decide whether to correct
any inaccurate or speculative reporting, or to ignore it.
• Make sure there is ongoing communication between the spokesperson and the
crisis management team. Spokespersons abroad must keep the main spokesperson
briefed on any developments where they are.
• The spokesperson must work closely with the crisis management team and mutually
agree on any statements or questions and answers documents.
Defensive media statements
• Information given to journalists must be factually correct. Avoid disclosing anything
sensitive that could endanger the life of the hostage, be detrimental to the morale of
their family or company members, or could hinder negotiations with the kidnappers.
News of a kidnap
can become public
knowledge fast.
16 Crisis management corporate guidelines
Before giving any information to a journalist you must
• Establish their credentials.
• Ask what information they already have.
• Clarify the sources of that information.
If the journalist has background knowledge you should
• Admit that there has been a kidnap.
• Relate publicly known facts concerning the abduction.
• State that it would be dangerous to make any further comment as someone’s life is in
danger.
• Seek understanding and sympathy.
• Request responsible reporting. Stress that this is in the best interest of the victim and
their family during a highly emotional and stressful time.
• Refuse to speculate.
No details should be provided about
• The kidnappers’ demands.
• Your negotiating strategy.
• Contact with law enforcement agencies.
• The victim, other than to confirm his/her identity.
• Any information about the victim’s family.
• The assets of the company or the victim’s family. This must be played down.
If the journalist is investigating a rumor
• Express surprise at the call.
• State that you are not aware of the rumor and ask what information they have.
• Thank them for the call and say that you will look into it.
• Ask for contact details so you can call back once you have investigated the situation.
Note: If there is a large volume of calls, the crisis management team must decide whether
to continue to handle them individually or issue a verbal or written statement.
Using the media to advantage
During a kidnap there are times when you can use the media to send a message to the
kidnappers, or to let the hostage know that he/she has not been forgotten. This may be
necessary during a lengthy kidnap in order to break a period of silence, or pressure the
kidnappers to prove that the victim is alive and well.
To achieve this you can:
• broadcast veiled messages and music over radio stations (hostage ‘morale boosters’).
• ask a friendly journalist or broadcaster to issue a general news item on the kidnapping
that does not directly implicate the victim’s family or your company.
• arrange an emotional interview with a close family member of the victim.
• broadcast or publish an article about the emotional stress the family is suffering,
without involving them directly".
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2081 on: February 25, 2017, 08:24:15 AM »
It is normal practice when a child goes missing to seek publicity and the sooner the better.

It's not normal practice when a child goes missing in country A to seek to publicise the disaappearance in country B.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2082 on: February 25, 2017, 09:59:02 AM »
It's not normal practice when a child goes missing in country A to seek to publicise the disappearance in country B.
It could be if they thought the kidnapper came from country B.  Initially they seemed to have someone in mind.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2083 on: February 25, 2017, 10:49:22 AM »
It could be if they thought the kidnapper came from country B.  Initially they seemed to have someone in mind.

I have seen nothing to suggest they thought the perpetrator came from country B or that they had anyone in mind.
 
11pm 3rd May;

Mr McCann was absolutely distraught telling the person receiving the call that he feared 'she (Madeleine McCann) had been taken by paedophiles'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GRAHAM-MCKENZIE.htm

11.30pm

He mentioned the possibility that that she could have been taken by a paedophile
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PATRICIA_CAMERON.htm

No mention of British paedophiles, it seems.

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Offline faithlilly

Re: Supreme Court rules against the McCanns in damages case.
« Reply #2084 on: February 25, 2017, 11:02:04 AM »
I have seen nothing to suggest they thought the perpetrator came from country B or that they had anyone in mind.
 
11pm 3rd May;

Mr McCann was absolutely distraught telling the person receiving the call that he feared 'she (Madeleine McCann) had been taken by paedophiles'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GRAHAM-MCKENZIE.htm

11.30pm

He mentioned the possibility that that she could have been taken by a paedophile
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PATRICIA_CAMERON.htm

No mention of British paedophiles, it seems.

This from Graham McKenzie's statement is odd.

'He said something along the lines of there being Paedophile gangs in Portugal and that they had abducted Madeleine. I was so shocked by this, having originally thought that she had just wandered off.'

How would Gerry possibly know that there were paedophile gangs in Portugal ?
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