Proof of abduction

[stephen25000]

The first eye witness on the scene has made a sworn statement to the effect the window was open and the shutter raised.

Whether one wishes to believe her statement or not is a personal choice ... actually calling her statement or that of any other witness into disrepute is embarking on shaky ground.

Why ?

Other than kate Mccann's unverified clsim, who else saw the window open before she got there ?

[Robittybob1]

Why ?

Other than kate Mccann's unverified clsim, who else saw the window open before she got there ?

There were heaps that saw it and knew about it.  It was still open when Amy Tierney arrived.

[jassi]

There were heaps that saw it and knew about it.  It was still open when Amy Tierney arrived.

Was that before or after Gerry and Dian had been messing about with it?

[slartibartfast]

The first eye witness on the scene has made a sworn statement to the effect the window was open and the shutter raised.

Whether one wishes to believe her statement or not is a personal choice ... actually calling her statement or that of any other witness into disrepute is embarking on shaky ground.

The police don't have the luxury of believing every suspects sworn statement.

[Robittybob1]

Was that before or after Gerry and Dianne had been messing about with it?

Well that is right, who knows.  But the SC judges seem to be able to tell it was open when Amy Tierney arrived.  Ask them.  [I'll correct your spelling of Dianne, she hates it when it is spelt wrong!]

The police don't have the luxury of believing every suspects sworn statement.

But we are not allowed to do the same.  Why not?

[Brietta]

The police don't have the luxury of believing every suspects sworn statement.

Neither do they have the luxury of choosing a theory and sticking to it as Amaral wrote he did on the fourth of May.

[stephen25000]

There were heaps that saw it and knew about it.  It was still open when Amy Tierney arrived.

Heaps ????

Never heard that before.

The only witnesses to the window being opened occurred after KM's return to the apartment.

[Robittybob1]

Neither do they have the luxury of choosing a theory and sticking to it as Amaral wrote he did on the fourth of May.

All these things are optional.

Heaps ????

Never heard that before.

The only witnesses to the window being opened occurred after KM's return to the apartment.

No you need to read the file.

[G-Unit]

All these things are optional.No you need to read the file.

There are three people in the files who say the window and shutters were open. Two of them are named McCann. The third one claims to have seen them, but that would mean she was present when the other two arrived in the apartment from the Tapas immediately after the alarm was raised, as the first act of one of them was to lower the shutter.

[stephen25000]

All these things are optional.No you need to read the file.

No Rob.

I don't.

There is no independent verification of the window being opened before KM got  there.

[Robittybob1]

There are three people in the files who say the window and shutters were open. Two of them are named McCann. The third one claims to have seen them, but that would mean she was present when the other two arrived in the apartment from the Tapas immediately after the alarm was raised, as the first act of one of them was to lower the shutter.

I also said "know about" it.  Many claim to "know" the window was open and shutters up.

No Rob.

I don't.

There is no independent verification of the window being opened before KM got  there.

That is only because Amaral is a genius and focused on the wrong people.

[stephen25000]

I also said "know about" it.  Many claim to "know" the window was open and shutters up.
That is only because Amaral is a genius and focused on the wrong people.

Not before KM was there.

[G-Unit]

I also said "know about" it.  Many claim to "know" the window was open and shutters up.
That is only because Amaral is a genius and focused on the wrong people.

Who are these 'many'? The whole of the UK knew about the 'jemmied' 'forced' and 'broken' shutters very quickly. Are you counting them? Not one of their seven friends saw them, and they were there.

[Robittybob1]

Who are these 'many'? The whole of the UK knew about the 'jemmied' 'forced' and 'broken' shutters very quickly. Are you counting them? Not one of their seven friends saw them, and they were there.

You must read the files differently to me.  I can't help that sorry.

[G-Unit]

You must read the files differently to me.  I can't help that sorry.

You can help making claims you can't support with cites from those files. Take off your rose tinted specs and have another look.