Author Topic: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?  (Read 62366 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2017, 09:46:20 AM »
You don't know anything. 
Who was this "and since it seems convenient to identify the person who..."?

Don't be foolish bob.

By the way, you said 'we' are going to complain  about the judgement to the Portuguese Supreme Court.

Who is 'we' and what exactly are you going to complain about.

It's the final judgement. You do know that, don't you.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2017, 09:49:00 AM »
They claim, at some point before they went to the tapas.
Is that your best answer?  As they looked into the room before they went to Tapas, you believe that, yet when Gerry says he saw her at 9:05 PM you don't believe him! 

Don't be foolish bob.
  I am having serious doubts about your credibility.  I'm being serious.
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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2017, 09:50:43 AM »
In one thread I asked you whether Madeleine was carried over the boundary of the Ocean Club, I can't remember you answering that either.
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stephen25000

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2017, 09:51:28 AM »
Is that your best answer?  As they looked into the room before they went to Tapas, you believe that, yet when Gerry says he saw her at 9:05 PM you don't believe him! 
  I am having serious doubts about your credibility.  I'm being serious.

Can you cite the statement, when he saw her directly ?

....and do you seriously believe all witnesses in cases, always tell the truth ?

It's your credibility that is under question.

stephen25000

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2017, 09:52:18 AM »
In one thread I asked you whether Madeleine was carried over the boundary of the Ocean Club, I can't remember you answering that either.

Why do I need to answer your questions ?

It is purely a voluntary response.

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2017, 09:54:11 AM »
Don't be foolish bob.

By the way, you said 'we' are going to complain  about the judgement to the Portuguese Supreme Court.

Who is 'we' and what exactly are you going to complain about.

It's the final judgement. You do know that, don't you.
I'm not sure, but if it takes a Revolution I'm for it.

Why do I need to answer your questions ?

It is purely a voluntary response.
You always ask for proof of an abductor, and the person who took her off the OC premises is an abductor.
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stephen25000

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2017, 09:56:03 AM »
I'm not sure, but if it takes a Revolution I'm for it.
You always ask for proof of an abductor, and the person who took her off the OC premises is an abductor.

If she was taken out of the apartment, it didn't need an abductor, did it bob.

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2017, 10:01:17 AM »
Can you cite the statement, when he saw her directly ?

....and do you seriously believe all witnesses in cases, always tell the truth ?

It's your credibility that is under question.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm
"----- He followed the normal route up to the rear door, which being open he only had to move [slide] it, that being the way in which he entered [was entering] the lounge, he noted that the children's bedroom door was not ajar as he had left it but half-way open, which he thought strange, having then put together the thought of MADELEINE having got up to go to sleep in his bedroom so as to avoid the noise produced [created] by her siblings. In this way he entered the children's bedroom and established visual contact with each of them, checking and is certain of this, that the three were sleeping deeply."
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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2017, 10:03:24 AM »
If she was taken out of the apartment, it didn't need an abductor, did it bob.
Was she hidden on the grounds of the OC or not?    Who took her out of the OC grounds if she was taken beyond the boundary?

What about answering this one?
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stephen25000

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2017, 10:07:17 AM »
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm
"----- He followed the normal route up to the rear door, which being open he only had to move [slide] it, that being the way in which he entered [was entering] the lounge, he noted that the children's bedroom door was not ajar as he had left it but half-way open, which he thought strange, having then put together the thought of MADELEINE having got up to go to sleep in his bedroom so as to avoid the noise produced [created] by her siblings. In this way he entered the children's bedroom and established visual contact with each of them, checking and is certain of this, that the three were sleeping deeply."

Is this a personal statement ?

This seems written in the third person.

Besides his visit to the apartment, so I heard, was to go to to the toilet.

How could he also know they were sleeping soundly from a distance ?

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2017, 10:09:30 AM »
Is this a personal statement ?

This seems written in the third person.

Besides his visit to the apartment, so I heard, was to go to to the toilet.

How could he also know they were sleeping soundly from a distance ?
Some are written like that.  He saw them.  He also went to the toilet, so he says, but he could be lying about that too.
Quote Stephen "....and do you seriously believe all witnesses in cases, always tell the truth ?"

Do you pick and choose which bits to believe?
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stephen25000

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2017, 10:30:13 AM »
Some are written like that.  He saw them.  He also went to the toilet, so he says, but he could be lying about that too.
Quote Stephen "....and do you seriously believe all witnesses in cases, always tell the truth ?"

Do you pick and choose which bits to believe?

I prefer verification of statements, but that';s not always possible.

Then you look for inconsistencies in accounts.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2017, 10:31:57 AM »
I prefer verification of statements, but that';s not always possible.

Then you look for inconsistencies in accounts.
So do I.  There are plenty of interviews where Gerry explains his visit at 9:05 PM
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2017, 10:35:47 AM »
Don't be ridiculous.

How Madeleine disappeared from the apartment, remains undetermined, as does her fate.

The last known people to see her alive were her parents.

Now time bob for you to get real.
So do you accept Gerry saw her at around 9:05 PM?  And then what happens at 9:30 PM?
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stephen25000

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Re: Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2017, 10:47:45 AM »
So do you accept Gerry saw her at around 9:05 PM?  And then what happens at 9:30 PM?

' Gerry McCann went to the apartment at 9.05pm, when all the children were sleeping soundly and Madeleine was still in her bed, he says.

The police in Portugal, however, have never accepted the McCanns’ evidence as undisputed. They initially regarded the McCanns as suspects, ..............'.

I didn't paste the rest of that sentence as the PJ never claimed that. It's just another lie in the UK media.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/16/madeleine-mccann-latest-are-police-any-closer-to-knowing-the-tru/