Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?

[stephen25000]

I would like to thank an ex-poster on here, Anne Guedes, for her work in translation of the Supreme Court Judgement.

 

[Eleanor]

Believe is the operaive word here.
Convinced would be better used. Not many people are convinced by Gerry's statement. I find it to be wholly wreckless that a father who had agreed to leave the children alone every night before they left the UK, to adapt a 'listening' service would suddenly offer an account of the last time he saw His daughter alive, was that night he claims she disappeared. Seriously? door ajar?

I don't think we managed to asertain who was the last person to put the children to bed and leave the door 'ajar'. Kate thinks it was her, Gerry wouldn't know how ajar the door was unless they took to measuring before and after Maddies alleged disappearance from the room.

Also. Gerry 'thought' someone may have been hiding behind the door , but he didn't check, he left the children alone anyway.

It's call "Hindsight."  Please don't try to present it as something else.

[G-Unit]

Exactly G!  The bed looked like it was ready for someone to be put to bed. I used to do this for my children when they were younger, after their bathtime, still do for visitors!

Mostly people then 'tuck' the child in by lifting the covers up to the child's shoulders when they're in bed. It would be difficult for Madeleine to 'snuggle down' as Kate said she did if the covers were left folded back.

[Miss Taken Identity]

It's call "Hindsight."  Please don't try to present it as something else.

Hindsight? Oh I don't think so. This is a man who was still trying to convice people that an abductor was present, when he, for the first time all week, 'physically' checked his children, He is also tryng to ad lib an abductor story.IMO.
What he forgot to tell us was; after thinking someone was in the room how did this abductor get into the apartment?
hmm? smashed window? jemmied shutters, whooshing curtains? door kicked in? Or did he /she/ they/ walk in through an unlocked door perhaps?... unlocked door would throw up that question of walked and wandered...

[Eleanor]

Hindsight? Oh I don't think so. This is a man who was still trying to convice people that an abductor was present, when he, for the first time all week, 'physically' checked his children, He is also tryng to ad lib an abductor story.IMO.
What he forgot to tell us was; after thinking someone was in the room how did this abductor get into the apartment?
hmm? smashed window? jemmied shutters, whooshing curtains? door kicked in? Or did he /she/ they/ walk in through an unlocked door perhaps?... unlocked door would throw up that question of walked and wandered...

Gerry did most definitely not say that he walked out of the apartment thinking that there might be an abductor hiding behind the door.

[faithlilly]

I would like to thank an ex-poster on here, Anne Guedes, for her work in translation of the Supreme Court Judgement.

 

Seconded Stephen. Sterling work as ever fro Anne.

[faithlilly]

Gerry did most definitely not say that he walked out of the apartment thinking that there might be an abductor hiding behind the door.

How did he think the door had opened if Madeleine was still as he'd left her?

[Eleanor]

How did he think the door had opened if Madeleine was still as he'd left her?

This has got to stop.  It is grossly libellous to suggest that Gerry deliberately left his daughter under such circumstances.

I will be deleting any further post in the vein.

[Angelo222]

Miss Taken Identity.

There is always a way to describe events without resorting to borderline libel.  Please have another go.

[Angelo222]

How did he think the door had opened if Madeleine was still as he'd left her?

It was apparently a windy night so opening the patio door would have the effect of pushing the internal doors open.

[faithlilly]

This has got to stop.  It is grossly libellous to suggest that Gerry deliberately left his daughter under such circumstances.

I will be deleting any further post in the vein.

That's not what I'm suggesting at all. I'm actually saying the opposite.

[Miss Taken Identity]

It was apparently a windy night so opening the patio door would have the effect of pushing the internal doors open.

Based on that...we still have the unexplaned measurment of 'ajar' how would Gerry KNow how much 'ajar' it was? to provoke his suspicion something may be wrong ( althought he did initially think Maddie may have opened it as she may have gone to the tioilet). And we also have the querie of how did the abductor enter the apartment- It is looking like we are being told to accept the 'abductor' came through a window  ( whooshing curtains) if it was windy the door would have slammed shut from an open wndow? So which is it? HOw did the abductor enter the apartment. Gerry says he 'felt' someone was nehind the door. just after he left Jane tells us she saw the 'abductor' carry off Maddie. no whooshing curtains nothing. The story does not make any sense at all when you break it down into little sections.

[Brietta]

The opinion of members is in many instances well documented and falls far outwith the remit of this thread.

Which concerns ... The McCann's innocence in the eyes of the law

[Alice Purjorick]

The opinion of members is in many instances well documented and falls far outwith the remit of this thread.

Which concerns ... The McCann's innocence in the eyes of the law

No such thing.
In the eyes of the law it's "Guilty" or "Not Guilty"

[Robittybob1]

People are not required to prove their innocence, it is up to the Judiciary to prove then guilty. Being made arguidos doesn't make a person guilty in Portugal any more than being questioned under caution makes a person guilty in the UK. Their mistake was assuming that having their arguido status removed was equal to being cleared. It wasn't.

Where does it state that they thought this?