Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?

[ferryman]

I don't recall making any comment one way or another about what the Portuguese Attorney General thinks. My post was 'bout which set of rozzers was top of the 'eap like wiv respect to this 'tic'lar 'vestigation.
That's the second time time you have done that recently to my posts whilst protesting there is nothing wrong with your comprehensional skills....................... &%+((£
I am here neither to denigrate the Drs McCann nor support Sr Amaral. Nor wmaste my time banging on about things I don't stand a hope in hell of changing. I am here to poke fun at supporters who refuse to see the wood for the trees.
Now if you and your cohorts don't like that, tuff but don't put words in my mouth, and if it is not to forum rules no doubt I will be lobbed out.

Like Lemmy said "win some lose some it's all the same to me the pleasure is to play"

The Portuguese have primacy in a joint investigation.

[barrier]

I looked at the remit last year and it looked like it was drawn up about 6 months after the start of the review

12/05/2011 was the date of OG being drawn up,this is the day a review was set up,this by their announcement is where to treat it as if an abduction was in the uk was drawn up.When asked on LBC radio last year what did 30 officers do Hogan Howe explained the multitude of paper work that had to be translated,it never took 6 months it possible was more like 2 yrs when in 2013 it seems as if the review turned into an investigation.

[barrier]

No, as usual you have put words into my mouth. A bald statement from OG saying they have concluded that Madeleine was abducted is not acceptable. More detail would be needed to make it worthy of consideration.

Not sure on that, a professional opinion was raised on the finding of one toy car it seems elsewhere.

[Alfie]

Not just me, Alfie. The relevant question is why shouldn't OG release a detailed explanation of how and why they have reached their conclusions? They promised to be open and transparent so it's quite reasonable for people to expect and be given a full explanation.

How detailed an explanation will satisfy you and what would be a similar example of a Met closing a case and releasing detailed information to satisfy the idle curiosity of the public?

[ShiningInLuz]

How detailed an explanation will satisfy you and what would be a similar example of a Met closing a case and releasing detailed information to satisfy the idle curiosity of the public?

About £12 to £13 millions worth, preferably with an explanation as to why so many officers were removed from dealing with serious crimes in London for so long.  That would do nicely.

I am not holding my breath.

Mind you, it would leave an awful lot of ammunition for the sceptics if the remit is abduction, and a Herculean effort does not dish up some evidence thereof.

I fully expect the moderators to be up to their eyeballs with deletions if such should happen.

[Robittybob1]

talk about a difficult situation.

[G-Unit]

How detailed an explanation will satisfy you and what would be a similar example of a Met closing a case and releasing detailed information to satisfy the idle curiosity of the public?

I don't expect the case to be closed, it will just go dormant; it pretty much is now. There will be some sort of announcement meaning nothing, with vague promises to 'investigate any new evidence' and then they'll stop.

As usual, they will release no information and those who feel it was all a waste of time will lobby for an inquiry to find out what the heck they've been doing.

[G-Unit]

The Portuguese have primacy in a joint investigation.

The case belongs to Portugal. There is no joint investigation.

[Alfie]

I don't expect the case to be closed, it will just go dormant; it pretty much is now. There will be some sort of announcement meaning nothing, with vague promises to 'investigate any new evidence' and then they'll stop.

As usual, they will release no information and those who feel it was all a waste of time will lobby for an inquiry to find out what the heck they've been doing.

What an arrogant display that will be.

[Mr Gray]

About £12 to £13 millions worth, preferably with an explanation as to why so many officers were removed from dealing with serious crimes in London for so long.  That would do nicely.

I am not holding my breath.

Mind you, it would leave an awful lot of ammunition for the sceptics if the remit is abduction, and a Herculean effort does not dish up some evidence thereof.

I fully expect the moderators to be up to their eyeballs with deletions if such should happen.

If you had followed the case you would understand why so many officers were involved. There was simply so much information for the SY officers to examine....it's a shame the PJ were not capable of carrying out a proper investigation in the first place.

[G-Unit]

What an arrogant display that will be.

David Cameron wanted to 'help the parents'. The Met agreed to bring their expertise to the task. At last a proper investigation was going to take place. The Met were professionals and they had HOLMES! The supporters of the McCanns were so pleased.

Now the OG investigation is all but closed. Nothing appears to have been achieved. No crime has been identified. No child has been found. I'm surprised the supporters are content with that. The parents haven't been helped, they are exactly where they were in the beginning. They and their supporters don't seem interested in finding out what OG have been doing though. How strange.

[Mr Gray]

David Cameron wanted to 'help the parents'. The Met agreed to bring their expertise to the task. At last a proper investigation was going to take place. The Met were professionals and they had HOLMES! The supporters of the McCanns were so pleased.

Now the OG investigation is all but closed. Nothing appears to have been achieved. No crime has been identified. No child has been found. I'm surprised the supporters are content with that. The parents haven't been helped, they are exactly where they were in the beginning. They and their supporters don't seem interested in finding out what OG have been doing though. How strange.

What a short sighted post. SY have done the best they can in the circumstances....its not over yet but if they have found nothing at least they tried and I think maddie deserves that

[Alfie]

David Cameron wanted to 'help the parents'. The Met agreed to bring their expertise to the task. At last a proper investigation was going to take place. The Met were professionals and they had HOLMES! The supporters of the McCanns were so pleased.

Now the OG investigation is all but closed. Nothing appears to have been achieved. No crime has been identified. No child has been found. I'm surprised the supporters are content with that. The parents haven't been helped, they are exactly where they were in the beginning. They and their supporters don't seem interested in finding out what OG have been doing though. How strange.

We just don't have the same arrogant sense of entitlement that the detractors seem to have.  We (if I may speak for fellow supporters) realised from the outset that finding Madeleine so many years after her disappearance was always going to be the tallest of orders, and speaking for myself I never really held out much hope that the child would be found and returned to her family.  Nevertheless I firmly believe that Madeleine was failed by the initial investigation and that she deserved the renewed efforts made by Op Grange put into discovering what may have happened to her.  I'm not hung up about the millions of pounds spent on the case, I really couldn't care less if it cost £10m or £50m, there are many other things the government spends vast sums of money on that will get me far more hot under the collar. 

[Erngath]

We just don't have the same arrogant sense of entitlement that the detractors seem to have.  We (if I may speak for fellow supporters) realised from the outset that finding Madeleine so many years after her disappearance was always going to be the tallest of orders, and speaking for myself I never really held out much hope that the child would be found and returned to her family.  Nevertheless I firmly believe that Madeleine was failed by the initial investigation and that she deserved the renewed efforts made by Op Grange put into discovering what may have happened to her.  I'm not hung up about the millions of pounds spent on the case, I really couldn't care less if it cost £10m or £50m, there are many other things the government spends vast sums of money on that will get me far more hot under the collar.

My sentiments exactly.

[Mr Gray]

We just don't have the same arrogant sense of entitlement that the detractors seem to have.  We (if I may speak for fellow supporters) realised from the outset that finding Madeleine so many years after her disappearance was always going to be the tallest of orders, and speaking for myself I never really held out much hope that the child would be found and returned to her family.  Nevertheless I firmly believe that Madeleine was failed by the initial investigation and that she deserved the renewed efforts made by Op Grange put into discovering what may have happened to her.  I'm not hung up about the millions of pounds spent on the case, I really couldn't care less if it cost £10m or £50m, there are many other things the government spends vast sums of money on that will get me far more hot under the collar.

my sentiments exactly