Were the McCanns innocent in the eyes of the law?

[Mr Gray]

You have revealed your true colours there.

Madeleine is the victim in this case.

Any potential perpetrator(s)of a possible crime, if any occurred, has not been determined.

..and yes, the Mccann's do need to apologize. Their actions in leaving their children by themselves initiated this case.

maddie is a victim but so are her family....thats a fact

[misty]

We just don't have the same arrogant sense of entitlement that the detractors seem to have.  We (if I may speak for fellow supporters) realised from the outset that finding Madeleine so many years after her disappearance was always going to be the tallest of orders, and speaking for myself I never really held out much hope that the child would be found and returned to her family.  Nevertheless I firmly believe that Madeleine was failed by the initial investigation and that she deserved the renewed efforts made by Op Grange put into discovering what may have happened to her.  I'm not hung up about the millions of pounds spent on the case, I really couldn't care less if it cost £10m or £50m, there are many other things the government spends vast sums of money on that will get me far more hot under the collar.

I belatedly also echo those sentiments.

[Alfie]

I don't have any desire to hear anything in particular except a clear explanation of their conclusions and disclosure of the evidence on which they are based. I may question their findings if their evidence doesn't make sense, and why not?

Unlike some, I have no investment in a particular theory. People like that seem prepared to go further than refusing to accept things, they attack anyone who doesn't say what they want to hear. You only have to look at the bashing Amaral, the PJ, Portugal, it's judges and it's Judiciary have been subjected to.

I think you're being somewhat disingenuous there.  We already know in advance that you don't believe that abduction is either logical or plausible in this case, so if the Met conclude that that is the only plausible explanation and set out their reasons why, I'm pretty sure you still won't accept it. You want to hear that the parents are suspects because it will validate your years of "doubting".

[Mr Gray]

I don't have any desire to hear anything in particular except a clear explanation of their conclusions and disclosure of the evidence on which they are based. I may question their findings if their evidence doesn't make sense, and why not?

Unlike some, I have no investment in a particular theory. People like that seem prepared to go further than refusing to accept things, they attack anyone who doesn't say what they want to hear. You only have to look at the bashing Amaral, the PJ, Portugal, it's judges and it's Judiciary have been subjected to.

how would amaral fare on this forum
posting opinion as fact without any evidence
making libellous posts
your hero would be banned ......

[G-Unit]

I think you're being somewhat disingenuous there.  We already know in advance that you don't believe that abduction is either logical or plausible in this case, so if the Met conclude that that is the only plausible explanation and set out their reasons why, I'm pretty sure you still won't accept it. You want to hear that the parents are suspects because it will validate your years of "doubting".

I don't know exactly what you mean by disingenuous, but I don't like it as it implies I lie, which I don't. As to the rest of your post it consists mostly of you telling me a) what I think and b) what I intend to think. I don't know why you're so obsessed with my thoughts rather than my posts, but you obviously don't need an answer because a) You seem to think I lie and b) You already know what I think, apparently.

[G-Unit]

how would amaral fare on this forum
posting opinion as fact without any evidence
making libellous posts
your hero would be banned ......

My hero? I think you're mistaking me for someone else, I have no heroes.

As he managed to write a whole book without being found guilty of any of the above I expect he would find staying within the rules of a forum pretty easy, unlike some.

[Alfie]

I don't know exactly what you mean by disingenuous, but I don't like it as it implies I lie, which I don't. As to the rest of your post it consists mostly of you telling me a) what I think and b) what I intend to think. I don't know why you're so obsessed with my thoughts rather than my posts, but you obviously don't need an answer because a) You seem to think I lie and b) You already know what I think, apparently.

I just don't like dishonesty that's all.  I'm certainly not obsessed with your thoughts, what a strange accusation!

[Mr Gray]

My hero? I think you're mistaking me for someone else, I have no heroes.

As he managed to write a whole book without being found guilty of any of the above I expect he would find staying within the rules of a forum pretty easy, unlike some.

his book cannot be quoted on this forum as it is libellous
he claims he can prove maddie died in the apartment.....he has no evidence
if you think his theories would be accepted on this forum you are deluded

[Alice Purjorick]

The supporters have gone all Sesame Street on us again. I will not ask who are Bert and Ernie and who is Big Bird.
However this week's words are "arrogant" and "sentiment".
Or I could do it all in the style of Mrs Grose[this is where we came in  ]: "Merciful heavens children what manner of game are you playing now".

[Mr Gray]

The supporters have gone all Sesame Street on us again. I will not ask who are Bert and Ernie and who is Big Bird.
However this week's words are "arrogant" and "sentiment".
Or I could do it all in the style of Mrs Grose[this is where we came in  ]: "Merciful heavens children what manner of game are you playing now".

there was a time when you were above the pathetic name calling behaviour on this forum...now you seem to be leading it....its obviously symptomatic of the company you are keeping

[Alfie]

there was a time when you were above the pathetic name calling behaviour on this forum...now you seem to be leading it....its obviously symptomatic of the company you are keeping

Goading and insulting post 'liked' by a moderator too, that says it all.

[Alice Purjorick]

there was a time when you were above the pathetic name calling behaviour on this forum...now you seem to be leading it....its obviously symptomatic of the company you are keeping

Oh rather,  indubitably old stick and that is a fact.

[Alice Purjorick]

Goading and insulting post 'liked' by a moderator too, that says it all.

Says the past master at goading and insulting. You bleed too easily squire 

[Mr Gray]

Oh rather,  indubitably old stick and that is a fact.

oh dear...your condition is deteriorating

[carlymichelle]

Says the past master at goading and insulting. You bleed too easily squire 

he and davel love goading but they report us for goading