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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #210 on: March 02, 2017, 05:06:12 PM »
perhaps you could give us three and see if they stand up to scrutiny
I'm happy that they stand up to my scrutiny.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #211 on: March 02, 2017, 05:11:55 PM »
I would be interested in what influences formed your opinion.

For example, Lizzie Taylor had a formative influence on mine.
Never heard of her.  Judging by what you have written elsewhere, I'm not missing much.
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Offline jassi

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #212 on: March 02, 2017, 05:16:04 PM »
Never heard of her.  Judging by what you have written elsewhere, I'm not missing much.

Wasn't she that film star who had multiple husbands?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #213 on: March 02, 2017, 05:37:28 PM »
It's not about being 'good people' per se - it's about the unique, deeply profound and indestructable love that all normal people feel for their child from the moment their baby is born and they become parents.  It is not like any other kind of love.   The idea that it can be 'managed' or  'switched off' to suit changing circumstances is incomprehensible to me.

There is not a shred of evidence that the McCanns are not normal people.

Well, at least we're learning about your view of what a 'normal person' is. Your view, of course, is not necessarily correct. Did you know that not all 'normal people' bond immediately with their babies? Or do you think that such people are abnormal in some way?

Bonding is that feeling of unconditional love and attachment between you and your baby. Some mums feel it the moment their baby is born, others can take weeks or months – so don’t panic.
http://www.bounty.com/baby-0-to-12-months/postnatal-depression-and-bonding/bonding
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Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #214 on: March 02, 2017, 05:39:24 PM »
What do you know of their behaviour after the event which enables your pejorative assessment of "extremely odd"?
the behavioural experts who encountered the McCanns first hand assessed their behaviour as entirely in keeping with those of other parents in similar situations so I don't really think we need the benefit of a non-expert opinion from someone who wasn't there at the time and who in any case professes to not being very good with empathy.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #215 on: March 02, 2017, 05:43:49 PM »
the behavioural experts who encountered the McCanns first hand assessed their behaviour as entirely in keeping with those of other parents in similar situations so I don't really think we need the benefit of a non-expert opinion from someone who wasn't there at the time and who in any case professes to not being very good with empathy.
Don't worry, I wasn't giving you the benefit of anything other than my right to free speech. 

Didn't you say you were putting me on ignore?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #216 on: March 02, 2017, 05:45:18 PM »
the behavioural experts who encountered the McCanns first hand assessed their behaviour as entirely in keeping with those of other parents in similar situations so I don't really think we need the benefit of a non-expert opinion from someone who wasn't there at the time and who in any case professes to not being very good with empathy.

Who were these behavioural experts?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #217 on: March 02, 2017, 05:45:53 PM »
Never heard of her.  Judging by what you have written elsewhere, I'm not missing much.

Hmmm ... neat sidestep there ... I may have expressed an interest in what may have formed your opinion ... but it seems that is information you prefer not to divulge.

No worries.  I find that nonetheless informative and interesting too.
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ferryman

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Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #218 on: March 02, 2017, 05:47:04 PM »
the behavioural experts who encountered the McCanns first hand assessed their behaviour as entirely in keeping with those of other parents in similar situations so I don't really think we need the benefit of a non-expert opinion from someone who wasn't there at the time and who in any case professes to not being very good with empathy.

And again, the prosecutors made reference to behaviour:

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The non involvement of the arguidos parents of Madeleine in any penally relevant action seems to result from the objective circumstances of them not being inside the apartment when she disappeared, from the normal behaviour that they adopted until said disappearance and afterwards, as can be amply concluded from the witness statements,

Of course, by afterwards, the prosecutors mean, behaviour that would be consistent with that of any parent who had discovered his or her child had just vanished.   

Online misty

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #219 on: March 02, 2017, 05:52:33 PM »
I'm happy that they stand up to my scrutiny.

If their behaviour was so odd, why did Ricardo Paiva allow these "strange individuals" to spend time with his family (which included his young children)?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #220 on: March 02, 2017, 06:38:12 PM »
Don't worry, I wasn't giving you the benefit of anything other than my right to free speech. 

Didn't you say you were putting me on ignore?

He says that to everyone.
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Alfie

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Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #221 on: March 02, 2017, 06:53:55 PM »
Who were these behavioural experts?
I don't know why you ask me questions that you, being a total expert on the files, already know the answer to but still.  Here's one.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ALAN-PIKE.htm

ferryman

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Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #222 on: March 02, 2017, 06:59:07 PM »
I don't know why you ask me questions that you, being a total expert on the files, already know the answer to but still.  Here's one.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ALAN-PIKE.htm

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Their comportment did not surprise me. It was a comportment which I have witnessed a lot at times when a trauma is suffered. In my opinion, their reaction relative to the disappearance of Madeleine, as already stated above, was completely within the bounds of what one would expect of parents whose daughter was taken from them against their will.

But then, what would he know?

Or the Leicestershire Police liaison officers who all testified that nothing in the behaviour of the McCanns raised, in them, the slightest suspicions.

The pool of real expertise rests on this board, and in the insight of such luminaries as G-Unit  ....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #223 on: March 02, 2017, 07:03:31 PM »
I'm happy that they stand up to my scrutiny.

then its purely your own opinion which has no value to anyone but you

Offline G-Unit

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #224 on: March 02, 2017, 07:05:51 PM »
I don't know why you ask me questions that you, being a total expert on the files, already know the answer to but still.  Here's one.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ALAN-PIKE.htm

I knew about that one, it's the others I was wondering about. As you said experts there must be another or others?
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