Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?

[ShiningInLuz]

Hmmm ... neat sidestep there ... I may have expressed an interest in what may have formed your opinion ... but it seems that is information you prefer not to divulge.

No worries.  I find that nonetheless informative and interesting too.

I haven't sidestepped anything.

I have made it clear I am not a behavioural expert.  Accordingly I have little basis on which to properly evaluate supposed analysis of the behaviour of those involved in the disappearance of Madeleine.

So my opinion was formed by me without reference to anyone else.

[G-Unit]

But then, what would he know?

Or the Leicestershire Police liaison officers who all testified that nothing in the behaviour of the McCanns raised, in them, the slightest suspicions.

The pool of real expertise rests on this board, and in the insight of such luminaries as G-Unit  ....

The liaison officers were not completely unanimous as I recall, and they weren't asked the questions the PJ wanted asked. Not forgetting that the McCanns dispensed with their services, of course.

[ferryman]

The liaison officers were not completely unanimous as I recall, and they weren't asked the questions the PJ wanted asked. Not forgetting that the McCanns dispensed with their services, of course.

The UK Leicestershire Police officers.

Forget Paivia .....

[ShiningInLuz]

If their behaviour was so odd, why did Ricardo Paiva allow these "strange individuals" to spend time with his family (which included his young children)?

I wouldn't hesitate for a second to have the McCanns spend time with my family, which includes young children.  So I see this as somewhat of a non-point.  I am more concerned that the kids have a particularly strong and now aging dog around their little ones.  Since our house move finally appears to be on, I will be keeping my eye on the b*tch, sorry doggy!

IMO, the McCanns are more welcome in my household than the family dog is.  I dare say if we were ever to meet, they would find my behaviour just as odd as I found theirs.  It doesn't make me guilty of anything, does it?

[misty]

I wouldn't hesitate for a second to have the McCanns spend time with my family, which includes young children.  So I see this as somewhat of a non-point.  I am more concerned that the kids have a particularly strong and now aging dog around their little ones.  Since our house move finally appears to be on, I will be keeping my eye on the b*tch, sorry doggy!

IMO, the McCanns are more welcome in my household than the family dog is.  I dare say if we were ever to meet, they would find my behaviour just as odd as I found theirs.  It doesn't make me guilty of anything, does it?

You have the luxury of knowledge gleaned from almost 10 years of McCann-related information which helps you to determine whether or not they are child killers/cadaver concealers. Paiva was dealing with suspects in a Missing Child case & as the Portuguese FLO had to use his own professional & personal judgement.

[Alfie]

I knew about that one, it's the others I was wondering about. As you said experts there must be another or others?

How many professional people - doctors, FLOs, etc - stating that the McCanns' behaviour was normal and to be expected will it take before you accept it, if I know in advance it will make no difference to your opinion whatsoever it will save me the trouble of searching out the relevant cites, thanks.

[ferryman]

RANSLATIONS BY INES
05-Cartas Rogatorias Vol V Page 13
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LEICESTERSHIRE POLICE FORCE
 
Witness Statement by Neil Holden
Occupation: Police Officer
 
This statement, consisting of one page, signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief .
 
Date: 25 April 2008
Signature:
 
I am police inspector 607 Holden of the Leicestershire police, currently based in the criminal unit.
 
In 2007 in relation to the Portuguese investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, I was sent to Portugal in the official role of liaison officer to the McCann family.
 
According to the Letters of Request from the Portuguese police, I was asked to respond to the following question:
 
Was anything said or done by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during your contacts that may have raised any suspicion that they had knowledge of what happened to Madeleine, besides the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators?
 
My response to the above question is: No.

[ferryman]

EICESTERSHIRE POLICE FORCE
 

Witness Statement by Michael Graham
Occupation: Police Officer
 
This statement, consisting of one page, signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief .
 
Date: 21 April 2008
Signature:
 
I am police inspector 1127 Graham of the Leicestershire police, currently based in the criminal unit.
 
In 2007 in relation to the Portuguese investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, I was sent to Portugal in the official role of liaison officer to the McCann family.
 
According to the Letters of Request from the Portuguese police, I was asked to respond to the following question:
 
Was anything said or done by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during your contacts that may have raised any suspicion that they had knowledge of what happened to Madeleine, besides the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators?
 
My response to the above question is: No.
 
This statement was made by me and is in accordance with my understanding.

[stephen25000]

You weren't there, so how would you know ?

[G-Unit]

How many professional people - doctors, FLOs, etc - stating that the McCanns' behaviour was normal and to be expected will it take before you accept it, if I know in advance it will make no difference to your opinion whatsoever it will save me the trouble of searching out the relevant cites, thanks.

Or, in other words, you can find only one behavioural expert?

[Alfie]

Or, in other words, you can find only one behavioural expert?

Childish, pedantic.  I found one.  There may be only one.  There are statements from doctors and FLOs too which describe normal, understandable behaviour, nevertheless you win, congratulations.

[ferryman]

Statement by Jim McGarvey

This statement consisting of two pages is true and consistent with my understanding.

Date: 25th April 2008

I am police Inspector McGarvey of the Leicestershire police force, currently based in the criminal unit.

In 2007 and in relation to the Portuguese investigation carried out into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, I was detached to Portugal in the role of communication officer for the family.

In accordance with the Portuguese PJ Letter of Request I was asked to respond to the following question:

Was there anything done or said by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during various contacts that could raise any suspicion that they could have had any knowledge of what could have happened to Madeleine, beyond the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators.

My reply to the question: No.

In relation to the above I would like to mention that at approximately 20.00 on the 5th May, I arrived at the McCann apartment with other family communications officers. We were asked several times during this meeting about questions that Gerald and Kate would like to have followed up and responded to by the PJ.

I remember that during the meetings, Kate revealed that Madeleine had spoken with her in the morning of her disappearance and said that she remembered the twins had cried during the night and that she wanted to know why neither her mother or father had appeared. Kate asked herself whether this fact could have any relation with Madeleine’s disappearance.

Gerry and Kate also questioned whether there was any suggestion that pointed to the use of drugs to facilitate Madeleine's abduction.

This statement was made by me and is truthful in accordance with my knowledge.

[stephen25000]

Other than your fellow supporters, you won't find anyone who will agree with you.

[ferryman]

Other than your fellow supporters, you won't find anyone who will agree with you.

Apart from all the liaison officers assigned to work with Kate and Gerry (barring Paivia ....), Alan Pike, real  experts in reading body-language, such as Sharon Leal ....

People like that.

Oh, and Mark Harrison, who made plain that no incriminating inference could, or should, be drawn from the dog-alerts, and concluded that if Madeleine is dead, it is most likely Madeleine's remains were disposed of into the sea, but he really didn't know .....

[stephen25000]

Apart from all the liaison officers assigned to work with Kate and Gerry (barring Paivia ....), Alan Pike, real  experts in reading body-language, such as Sharon Leal ....

People like that.

Oh, and Mark Harrison, who made plain that no incriminating inference could, or should, be drawn from the dog-alerts, and concluded that if Madeleine is dead, it is most likely Madeleine's remains were disposed of into the sea, but he really didn't know .....

Alan Pike, PAID FOR by the Mccanns.

Sharon Leal, just one name.

You will have to do better than that.