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stephen25000

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Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #315 on: March 06, 2017, 11:10:40 AM »
Lace asked: "What if Smithman was indeed just another tourist and the abductor snatched Madeleine just before Kate did her check?"  That "what if" applies to both statements
"What if Smithman was indeed just another tourist"  and what if the abductor snatched Madeleine just before Kate did her check?"

'..and the abductor..'

Who are you trying to kid ?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #316 on: March 06, 2017, 11:12:14 AM »
'..and the abductor..'

Who are you trying to kid ?
He/she is a "what if abductor".
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stephen25000

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Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #317 on: March 06, 2017, 11:22:15 AM »
He/she is a "what if abductor".

Don't bandy words with me Rob, it says 'and the abductor'.

Offline Lace

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #318 on: March 06, 2017, 11:23:56 AM »
Don't bandy words with me Rob, it says 'and the abductor'.

Well as the title to this thread has 'abduction' in it,  how can one not use the word abductor in a scenario?

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Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #319 on: March 06, 2017, 11:25:12 AM »
He/she is a "what if abductor".

Exactly,   'what if'  is not stating anything as fact.

stephen25000

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Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #320 on: March 06, 2017, 11:39:59 AM »
Well as the title to this thread has 'abduction' in it,  how can one not use the word abductor in a scenario?

I suggest you ask Brietta.

She said the other day, don't state opinions as fact.

So, I suggest you add that to your post......

Offline G-Unit

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #321 on: March 06, 2017, 01:24:09 PM »
He/she is a "what if abductor".

Do you learn English grammar at school in NZ?

"What if......the abductor snatched Madeleine just before Kate did her check?" I've taken Smithman out as he wasn't necessary to the sentence. Including 'the' before 'abductor' means that 'what if' doesn't mean the poster is uncertain about the existence of the abductor. They're uncertain about what he did. Using 'an abductor' instead of 'the abductor' would have been better.
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Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #322 on: March 06, 2017, 01:28:19 PM »
What if Smithman was indeed just another tourist and the abductor snatched Madeleine just before Kate did her check?   He could have opened the window as a precaution in case he was cornered and having opened it just before Kate checked no one would have noticed it open when passing,   the apartment wouldn't have been too cold either for the twins to wake up.

A very credible scenario IMO Lace.
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Offline John

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #323 on: March 06, 2017, 01:34:41 PM »
It has always struck me as strange that two almost identical men carrying an almost identical child could still be without positive identification after nearly ten years.  Add to this the tourist who suggests that it was he whom Tanner saw and that makes three.

A coincidence too far?     &%+((£
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #324 on: March 06, 2017, 01:36:47 PM »
A very credible scenario IMO Lace.

Another tourist carrying a child whose build and clothing were similar to Madeleine, who also had no covering or shoes on her feet ? Another tourist whose clothing was almost identical to Crechman ? Really ? Do you actually think that's not one coincidence too far ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #325 on: March 06, 2017, 01:37:45 PM »
Do you learn English grammar at school in NZ?

"What if......the abductor snatched Madeleine just before Kate did her check?" I've taken Smithman out as he wasn't necessary to the sentence. Including 'the' before 'abductor' means that 'what if' doesn't mean the poster is uncertain about the existence of the abductor. They're uncertain about what he did. Using 'an abductor' instead of 'the abductor' would have been better.

From the sightings we already have I find it extremely difficult to believe a stranger could enter 5a and abduct a child and carry her off without being seen by the numerous persons who were also wandering around blocks 4-6 that night.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #326 on: March 06, 2017, 01:38:17 PM »
It has always struck me as strange that two almost identical men carrying an almost identical child could still be without positive identification after nearly ten years.  Add to this the tourist who suggests that it was he whom Tanner saw and that makes three.

A coincidence too far?     &%+((£

Snap  8(0(*
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #327 on: March 06, 2017, 01:40:36 PM »
From the sightings we already have I find it extremely difficult to believe a stranger could enter 5a and abduct a child and carry her off without being seen by the numerous persons who were also wandering around blocks 4-6 that night.

Indeed.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #328 on: March 06, 2017, 01:50:17 PM »
From the sightings we already have I find it extremely difficult to believe a stranger could enter 5a and abduct a child and carry her off without being seen by the numerous persons who were also wandering around blocks 4-6 that night.

SY certainly seem to think it's possible

Offline Benice

Re: Was stranger abduction unlikely due to the checking regime?
« Reply #329 on: March 06, 2017, 01:57:45 PM »
It has always struck me as strange that two almost identical men carrying an almost identical child could still be without positive identification after nearly ten years.  Add to this the tourist who suggests that it was he whom Tanner saw and that makes three.

A coincidence too far?     &%+((£

The fact that a creche was in the area increases the chances of people being seen carrying children - as opposed to an area where there was no creche.

If you rule out Crecheman then it's quite possible the man seen by the Smiths was carrying Madeleine.  The timing of that sighting would tie in with Lace's suggested scenario of an intruder entering 5A just before Kate did her check.     So -  just one man - not three imo.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal