One enduring myth.

[slartibartfast]

there is nothing faux about being outraged at maddie being referred to as a possible pain in teh a**e

Most kids are a pain in the a**e at some time in their early life.

[stephen25000]

never mind  speculation...is there any real evidence the mccanns drugged their children....NO ...

Evidently, Madeleine didn't kick up a fuss when she disappeared, and neither did the other two children.

Now, why would that be ?

...and why didn't the McCann's INSIST on their children being tested for the presence of drugs or sedatives in their bodies, in the aftermath of Madeline's disappearance ?

Perhaps they were too busy doing other things.

[Benice]

Would the supporters kindly make up their collective mind?

Either Madeleine had colic, a not uncommon occurrence, which doctors should have recognised and known it would pass.

Or she was up for grabs for umpty nasty alternatives as Googled by Davel, in which case she should have had independent qualified medical testing.

Or she was a pain in the a**e, whom Kate wanted to unload onto Gerry as soon as he walked through the door, so that Kate could have a pee break and give her arm a rest.

My first baby suffered with severe colic for the first 6 weeks of her life and so I can totally understand Kate  - right down to her handing her daughter over to her daddy as soon as he walked through the door - I also did that.    Knowing that she was crying in pain day after day  - and not being able to do anything to stop it was torture for both of us - we felt so helpless. 

However, I can assure you that not once during that totally exhausting, worrying time did I ever think of my suffering baby as 'a pain in the a@rse.' 

You clearly have no experience at all of a baby suffering with colic - because if you did - then there is no way IMO that you would have dreamed of making such a spiteful comment.
     

[Mr Gray]

My first baby suffered with severe colic for the first 6 weeks of her life and so I can totally understand Kate  - right down to her handing her daughter over to her daddy as soon as he walked through the door - I also did that.    Knowing that she was crying in pain day after day  - and not being able to do anything to stop it was torture for both of us - we felt so helpless. 

However, I can assure you that not once during that totally exhausting, worrying time did I ever think of my suffering baby as 'a pain in the a@rse.' 

You clearly have no experience at all of a baby suffering with colic - because if you did - then there is no way IMO that you would have dreamed of making such a spiteful comment.
   

I think spiteful just about sums it up

[Alfie]

OP " that the McCanns drugged their children".

That appears to be you, Alfie.

Drugs?  No drugs?

Once you open Pandora's box ...

What are you on, really?  Where in my opening post do I say that the McCanns found Madeleine really hard work?  Please desist from this arrant nonsense.

[Mr Gray]

Most kids are a pain in the a**e at some time in their early life.

So when your children were ill and in extreme discomfort you would describe them as a pain in the a**e
What an awful way for a parent to describe their child

[G-Unit]

If, of course, there is such a thing as 'colic';

This is simply the term used for a baby aged between two and 12 weeks that cries constantly. At least one in five infants born in the UK is diagnosed with colic but in fact there's an increasing body of research to show there is no such thing.
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/654538/Childcare-experts-colic-doesn-t-exist

[stephen25000]

So when your children were ill and in extreme discomfort you would describe them as a pain in the a**e
What an awful way for a parent to describe their child

Pathetic comment.

[The Singularity]

Perhaps they were too busy doing other things.

That and at the time it probably didn't cross their minds, or if it did they only entertained the notion as opposed to believing steadfast that it was the case.

I think for everyone concerned the next 72 hours will have been panic, chaos and bewilderment.

[misty]

I watched this discussion unfolding last night & decided to refrain from posting in the hope that most of it would have been removed. It hasn't been.
How the Mod who sought to justify his Ghoul Tours, whilst at the same time almost demanding the MCCanns listen to his superior knowledge of how Luz works, expects to retain any respect from others after referring to Madeleine as a pain in the a~~e is beyond me.

[slartibartfast]

So when your children were ill and in extreme discomfort you would describe them as a pain in the a**e
What an awful way for a parent to describe their child

Yes and I am sure when those kids reach teenager status they probably describe their parents likewise from time to time.

This is just another example of supporters attempting to counter factual arguments with emotional responses.

[G-Unit]

Yes and I am sure when those kids reach teenager status they probably describe their parents likewise from time to time.

This is just another example of supporters attempting to counter factual arguments with emotional responses.

I had a problem with my first baby too; it's not uncommon. Was it a pain? Yes, because any problem you can't solve is a pain. It's the problem which is a pain, not the child.

[Alfie]

I watched this discussion unfolding last night & decided to refrain from posting in the hope that most of it would have been removed. It hasn't been.
As the Mod who sought to justify his Ghoul Tours, whilst at the same time almost demanding the MCCanns listen to his superior knowledge of how Luz works, expects to retain any respect from others after referring to Madeleine as a pain in the a~~e is beyond me.
I will refrain from commenting any further on this forum until that Mod has his status removed.

I would seriously suggest that anyone with a problem with this Mod simply ignores their bizarre and often deeply spiteful posts and tries not to rise to their bait, advice which I failed to take last night, more fool me. 

[Mr Gray]

If, of course, there is such a thing as 'colic';

This is simply the term used for a baby aged between two and 12 weeks that cries constantly. At least one in five infants born in the UK is diagnosed with colic but in fact there's an increasing body of research to show there is no such thing.
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/654538/Childcare-experts-colic-doesn-t-exist

precisely...yet sil understands everything about it and how to treat it and refers to it as simple colic...it is far far from a simple condition andnot well understood by the real experts

[Mr Gray]

I had a problem with my first baby too; it's not uncommon. Was it a pain? Yes, because any problem you can't solve is a pain. It's the problem which is a pain, not the child.

you are correct....the baby is NOT a pain in the a**e and anyone who suggests maddie was a pain in teh a**e has no place on this forum