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Offline barrier

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #345 on: May 01, 2017, 12:01:37 PM »
I would have her give the parents the benefit of the doubt, seeing as how she is (by her own admission) largely ignorant of the details of this case and really doesn't know what she is talking about.  But in this day and age we all have to have an opinion on a subject, no matter how little we know of the matter.  Fortunately my daughter has no interest whatsoever in trying to convince others that her opinion on the McCanns should be listened to, nor spends any time whatsoever tweeting or posting about her doubts, so no harm done really.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #346 on: May 01, 2017, 12:28:12 PM »
I think it must be you with the problem re: reading posts - I didn't say that you said it, I said I trust you are NOT saying it, thanks for confirming that you are not, though why you felt the need to point this out in a Madeleine McCann forum I'm not really sure.  Furthermore I categorically claimed that a small child can drink a whole bottle of Calpol and NOT die, so where did you get the idea that I thought Madeleine died after drinking a whole bottle of Calpol?


Why do you Trust I didn't say something I actually didn't say? utter nonsense of a post!  Having Already  said I do not believe Maddie was drugged (This is a belief as I have no evidence either way) by her parents to kill her, neither did I suggest Maddie drank a bottle and it killed her, so you can stop creating monsters from people who do not believe in the abduction story.

I mentioned the paracetamol is dangerous in large doses  because people have died from overdose and sometimes that is accidentally. This was in relation to posts asking can calpol  be used as a sedative-make you sleep, well given enough it can make you sleep permanently.

Perhaps really stupid people added 2+2 and got 25
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #347 on: May 01, 2017, 12:36:04 PM »
I would have her give the parents the benefit of the doubt, seeing as how she is (by her own admission) largely ignorant of the details of this case and really doesn't know what she is talking about.  But in this day and age we all have to have an opinion on a subject, no matter how little we know of the matter.  Fortunately my daughter has no interest whatsoever in trying to convince others that her opinion on the McCanns should be listened to, nor spends any time whatsoever tweeting or posting about her doubts, so no harm done really.

She seem young and misguided, maybe in that rebelling phase lol.

I don't agree that children should give their parents the benefit of the doubt in all things ( Nazi Germany an example). However, if you explained that you believe the parents version of account and add the evidence/ proof for your argument it should bring her round. Or if you have no evidence you can explain the word believe to her a in believing in God with no evidence.

BTW if she is a teen good luck with that lol
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ferryman

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #348 on: May 01, 2017, 01:02:29 PM »
It turns out my 18 year old daughter is convinced the parents dunnit.  When pressed why she thinks this she says she read some things on the internet about the 100% match to Madeleine's DNA in the hire car and that the parents had drugged the kids.  Fake news is all pervasive and extremely effective at implanting ideas which have no basis in fact and which are incredibly difficult to shake.  When I tried reasoning with daughter and pointed out the evidence was flawed or non existent she was not remotely interested, she just said 'I know what I read and I don't care what you say, I think they are guilty'.  We've got Goncalo and his entire online fan base thank for that - well done to them for their hugely successful propaganda campaign, it's certainly been extremely effective.

A deeply depressing post to read.

ferryman

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #349 on: May 01, 2017, 01:05:03 PM »
dont you like  other people having   a  opinion diffrent to you? you  should be pleased  your  daughter can think for herself

Opinions can be, and sadly all to frequently are, deeply damaging and divisive.

Expression of such opinion is deplorable.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #350 on: May 01, 2017, 02:23:13 PM »
Opinions can be, and sadly all to frequently are, deeply damaging and divisive.

Expression of such opinion is deplorable.


Yes, even worse  offering an opinion that leaving 3 babies under 4 alone and one of them disappears is a bad thing for parents to do. IS dividing this forum membership. 8)-)))

The pitts... and should not be allowed... oh it is getting a bit like that on this forum. Any criticism of the Tapas is deemed as trolling...
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Offline jassi

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #351 on: May 01, 2017, 02:31:37 PM »
Opinions can be, and sadly all to frequently are, deeply damaging and divisive.

Expression of such opinion is deplorable.

Don't you think it would be dreadful if we all thought the same?  Who would you argue with?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #352 on: May 01, 2017, 02:40:55 PM »
It turns out my 18 year old daughter is convinced the parents dunnit.  When pressed why she thinks this she says she read some things on the internet about the 100% match to Madeleine's DNA in the hire car and that the parents had drugged the kids.  Fake news is all pervasive and extremely effective at implanting ideas which have no basis in fact and which are incredibly difficult to shake.  When I tried reasoning with daughter and pointed out the evidence was flawed or non existent she was not remotely interested, she just said 'I know what I read and I don't care what you say, I think they are guilty'.  We've got Goncalo and his entire online fan base thank for that - well done to them for their hugely successful propaganda campaign, it's certainly been extremely effective.

Ive had the same experience with a couple of girls at work...and the same reasons given.....show her the picture of cipriano

Offline G-Unit

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #353 on: May 01, 2017, 02:50:15 PM »
It turns out my 18 year old daughter is convinced the parents dunnit.  When pressed why she thinks this she says she read some things on the internet about the 100% match to Madeleine's DNA in the hire car and that the parents had drugged the kids.  Fake news is all pervasive and extremely effective at implanting ideas which have no basis in fact and which are incredibly difficult to shake.  When I tried reasoning with daughter and pointed out the evidence was flawed or non existent she was not remotely interested, she just said 'I know what I read and I don't care what you say, I think they are guilty'.  We've got Goncalo and his entire online fan base thank for that - well done to them for their hugely successful propaganda campaign, it's certainly been extremely effective.

Such a pain the internet, isn't it? Without it the whole of the UK would be supporting the McCanns because the UK media do. Or would it? The two most damaging things in my opinion are the McCann's idea of what responsible parenting consists of and their demeanour during their media interviews.
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ferryman

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #354 on: May 01, 2017, 02:53:59 PM »
Don't you think it would be dreadful if we all thought the same?  Who would you argue with?

Thinking differently (on a broad range of different subjects) and arguing those differing points of view is fine.

But unsubstantiated denigration that baselessly accuses of serious crimes is an altogether different matter.

Offline jassi

Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #355 on: May 01, 2017, 02:56:40 PM »
Thinking differently (on a broad range of different subjects) and arguing those differing points of view is fine.

But unsubstantiated denigration that baselessly accuses of serious crimes is an altogether different matter.

That's where people think differently. Thankfully you can't dictate what people choose to think.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

ferryman

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #356 on: May 01, 2017, 02:57:46 PM »
That's where people think differently. Thankfully you can't dictate what people choose to think.
Some people think ....

stephen25000

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #357 on: May 01, 2017, 03:39:14 PM »
Some people think ....

Yes we do, and are not hindered by blind support.

Alfie

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #358 on: May 01, 2017, 03:44:02 PM »
Such a pain the internet, isn't it? Without it the whole of the UK would be supporting the McCanns because the UK media do. Or would it? The two most damaging things in my opinion are the McCann's idea of what responsible parenting consists of and their demeanour during their media interviews.
So you don't believe in the power of internet propaganda, malicious myth-spreading and fake news?  In your opinion the ones most to blame for making people think they dunnit is the victims themselves.  Well there's a surprise.... @)(++(*  Funny isn't it that my daughter didn't cite either of those "most damaging" things as her reasons for thinking the parents dunnit it...?

ferryman

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Re: One enduring myth.
« Reply #359 on: May 01, 2017, 04:08:50 PM »
So you don't believe in the power of internet propaganda, malicious myth-spreading and fake news?  In your opinion the ones most to blame for making people think they dunnit is the victims themselves.  Well there's a surprise.... @)(++(*  Funny isn't it that my daughter didn't cite either of those "most damaging" things as her reasons for thinking the parents dunnit it...?

What is your daughter's rationale, Alfie?

Sorry.  Just re-read your post.

All the hype around the time they were declared arguidos stuck.

Still more depressing. 
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