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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #135 on: March 16, 2017, 11:24:35 PM »
However, these Doctors would have us believe they checked their children every 15/30 minutes, so, based on that they would be able to distinguish between 15 and 30 minutes or as has been suggested they just checked whenever... and had no set time to check their children at all. In fact it could also be suggested that they ate and drink then checked... I say checked I mean listened at doors as was their preferred secure fail safe system ...
What would the average person do at home?  Do they check the kids every half hour.  I never did that.
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Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #136 on: March 17, 2017, 03:11:06 AM »
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8007.msg389882#msg389882 is the transcript of a section of the interview which clearly shows Goncalo Amaral had no idea about what happened between 9:00 and 10:00 that night.
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Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #137 on: March 17, 2017, 08:32:04 AM »
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8007.msg389882#msg389882 is the transcript of a section of the interview which clearly shows Goncalo Amaral had no idea about what happened between 9:00 and 10:00 that night.

How would Amaral know if the interview reflected an accurate account of events ?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #138 on: March 17, 2017, 08:52:51 AM »
How would Amaral know if the interview reflected an accurate account of events ?
Well that is what I started the thread for.  Who's timeline is it?  Was it provided by Goncalo.  I don't believe for a moment it was from the interviewer's study of the case.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2017, 08:58:08 AM »
Is it true that the rogatory statements were not part of the original released files?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3835.msg142689#msg142689
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Offline Benice

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #140 on: March 17, 2017, 09:49:56 AM »
However, these Doctors would have us believe they checked their children every 15/30 minutes, so, based on that they would be able to distinguish between 15 and 30 minutes or as has been suggested they just checked whenever... and had no set time to check their children at all. In fact it could also be suggested that they ate and drink then checked... I say checked I mean listened at doors as was their preferred secure fail safe system ...

On 3rd May the checks on Madeleine were every 30 minutes.   9.05p.m.  9.30p.m. and 10.00pm   (approximately.

The checks on JT's children were every 15 minutes. 9.15p.m. 9.30p.m. and 9.45p.m. (approx)

IIRC  according to Amaral - in one interview  - everyone at the table checked on Madeleine on 3rd May. 
 (If anyone can find that interview it would be appreciated - I haven't been able to find it)

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Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #141 on: March 17, 2017, 09:53:32 AM »
On 3rd May the checks on Madeleine were every 30 minutes.   9.05p.m.  9.30p.m. and 10.00pm   (approximately.

The checks on JT's children were every 15 minutes. 9.15p.m. 9.30p.m. and 9.45p.m. (approx)

IIRC  according to Amaral - in one interview  - everyone at the table checked on Madeleine on 3rd May. 
 (If anyone can find that interview it would be appreciated - I haven't been able to find it)

Some of the checks are verified, some aren't.

Likewise, when checks were made, were the children checked individually, or was it from a distance ?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #142 on: March 17, 2017, 10:06:36 AM »
On 3rd May the checks on Madeleine were every 30 minutes.   9.05p.m.  9.30p.m. and 10.00pm   (approximately.

The checks on JT's children were every 15 minutes. 9.15p.m. 9.30p.m. and 9.45p.m. (approx)


IIRC  according to Amaral - in one interview  - everyone at the table checked on Madeleine on 3rd May. 
 (If anyone can find that interview it would be appreciated - I haven't been able to find it)

Were you sleeping when you wrote this bit?

"You are quoting times as if they are completely accurate.
  The fact that the times given in statements are almost always preceded by the word 'around' means they are simply best guesses.

IMO it's not possible therefore to come to any firm conclusions based on the times given  - because some or all of them could be wrong.   Especially so IMO when there was no reason for anybody to make a point of remembering the times of  mundane movements which were of no significance at all while they making them.

Also different people can have vastly differing perceptions of time and distance.

AIMHO"


So which is it to be? Let us look at this in detail.

These people made a decision to leave their children alone every night so they could wine and dine BEFORE they went on holiday. Did they have a schedule at the table? did they keep a record of visits in their head. It would seem the answer to these questions would be NO.

So, from that we can safely deduce that it was a flippant, irregular listening at the door system they had in place. Which if an abductor really did take Madeleine from her bed, then the blame lies with these adults.
No amout of ifs' whens and buts is going to change that. And Amaral saying anything about the time linein an interview would have been quoting what he was told was a 'timeline'.

The most interesting thing about THE timeline was/still is... JT seeing GM and an 'abductor' at a certain time. also Kate knowing what time it was when she checked at 10...
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Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #143 on: March 17, 2017, 10:10:06 AM »
Quite shocking that people on holiday should make a decision to eat.

Very obviously, anyone on holiday should starve to death ....

stephen25000

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Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #144 on: March 17, 2017, 10:12:15 AM »
Quite shocking that people on holiday should make a decision to eat.

Very obviously, anyone on holiday should starve to death ....

Don't forget the Alcohol. Hardly essential.

Eating is.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #145 on: March 17, 2017, 10:20:39 AM »
Quite shocking that people on holiday should make a decision to eat.

Very obviously, anyone on holiday should starve to death ....

I don't think anyone staying at the Ocean Club that week starved. None of them except the T9 group found it necessary to leave their children home alone in order to eat either. Clever, weren't they?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #146 on: March 17, 2017, 10:22:49 AM »
Don't forget the Alcohol. Hardly essential.

Eating is.
Are you talking about the PJ coordinator?
I don't think anyone staying at the Ocean Club that week starved. None of them except the T9 group found it necessary to leave their children home alone in order to eat either. Clever, weren't they?
How would we know that for certain?
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Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #147 on: March 17, 2017, 10:27:05 AM »
I don't think anyone staying at the Ocean Club that week starved. None of them except the T9 group found it necessary to leave their children home alone in order to eat either. Clever, weren't they?
How do you know?

Offline Benice

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #148 on: March 17, 2017, 10:30:37 AM »
Were you sleeping when you wrote this bit?

"You are quoting times as if they are completely accurate.
  The fact that the times given in statements are almost always preceded by the word 'around' means they are simply best guesses.

IMO it's not possible therefore to come to any firm conclusions based on the times given  - because some or all of them could be wrong.   Especially so IMO when there was no reason for anybody to make a point of remembering the times of  mundane movements which were of no significance at all while they making them.

Also different people can have vastly differing perceptions of time and distance.

AIMHO"


So which is it to be? Let us look at this in detail.

These people made a decision to leave their children alone every night so they could wine and dine BEFORE they went on holiday. Did they have a schedule at the table? did they keep a record of visits in their head. It would seem the answer to these questions would be NO.

So, from that we can safely deduce that it was a flippant, irregular listening at the door system they had in place. Which if an abductor really did take Madeleine from her bed, then the blame lies with these adults.
No amout of ifs' whens and buts is going to change that. And Amaral saying anything about the time linein an interview would have been quoting what he was told was a 'timeline'.

The most interesting thing about THE timeline was/still is... JT seeing GM and an 'abductor' at a certain time. also Kate knowing what time it was when she checked at 10...

Did you miss the words (approximately/approx )regarding the times in my post?

The McCanns and their friends did no different to thousands of other parents on holiday who just like the McCanns made the decision to use the Listening method of childcare - or who used baby alarms - when they went to dinner.     

It would appear that some sceptics desperately want to pretend to themselves that isn't the case and that it is the McCanns and their friends who invented this method of childcare.    Utterly bizarre IMO.
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #149 on: March 17, 2017, 10:31:02 AM »
How do you know?
There wasn't great investigation of fellow tourists was there.  Under their system witnesses can't be asked incriminating questions so they would never know.
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