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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #345 on: September 12, 2017, 08:11:53 AM »
He wasn't the only one;

Thus, at around 9pm, her husband went to the apartment to make sure the twins, as well as Madeleine, were OK, then he went back to the restaurant. Her husband said that the children were doing well and that he had bumped into the person with whom he had played tennis, a person who has two children. At the same time, one of the group of friends, Russell, went to see his children, without checking on the interviewee's children.
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I double checked this and Kate is recorded as saying "Around 9.30pm was the time the interviewee should have gone to see her children, but her friend Matt (a member of the group) had just done a check in his apartment then gone to the interviewee's. He had entered the apartment by a glass sliding side door, that was always unlocked and once inside had not gone into the children's bedroom. He only looked through the door, and did not hear any noise. He went back to the restaurant and said that everything was fine. "

The sentence which precedes this "At the same time, one of the group of friends, Russell, went to see his children, without checking on the interviewee's children. "  is clearly meant to be part of the first quoted paragraph. 

This just goes to show the difficulty of having an interpreter who doesn't understand Kate's dialect very well, for what is translated from the Portuguese back to English does not flow like Kate telling the story IMO.  That is definitely a translation error IMO.

The reason I am revisiting this thread is that I am discussing this video with an English and Portuguese speaking person who raised the video with me, and I recognised it as the same video as I had already critiqued in this thread. 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #346 on: September 12, 2017, 08:14:51 AM »
I'm not trying to say anything, just pointing out what Kate McCann said.
It is clearly not what she said for the statement is written in Portuguese.  It reflects the difficulty of the interpreter.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #347 on: September 12, 2017, 08:24:27 AM »
Looking at all the statements made on 4th May only two people mention Matthew's check at around 9pm; Matthew himself and Russell. There's no 'clearly' involved, the assertion of translation errors is based on no evidence whatsoever.
That observation is really important in the construction of a theory as to what is happening at the time.  So Matt and Russell organise this spur of the moment check which includes the rounding up of the Payne family.  What sort of relationship is this that one goes to round up the stragglers?  Why? why? why was this done? And even after that, the results of Matt's check was not sufficient for Gerry, and just as well for Gerry finds the internal door moved to a more open position than they had left it, suggesting someone was in the room (with hindsight).
If The Tanner sighting is the innocent Crechedad who the heck moved the bedroom door?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #348 on: September 12, 2017, 08:49:25 AM »
That observation is really important in the construction of a theory as to what is happening at the time.  So Matt and Russell organise this spur of the moment check which includes the rounding up of the Payne family.  What sort of relationship is this that one goes to round up the stragglers?  Why? why? why was this done? And even after that, the results of Matt's check was not sufficient for Gerry, and just as well for Gerry finds the internal door moved to a more open position than they had left it, suggesting someone was in the room (with hindsight).
If The Tanner sighting is the innocent Crechedad who the heck moved the bedroom door?


According to Gerry, Matthew and Kate the door moved three times; between 8.30 and 9.05, between 9.05 and 9.30 and between 9.30 and 10.00. Explain that!
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #349 on: September 12, 2017, 09:44:01 AM »


According to Gerry, Matthew and Kate the door moved three times; between 8.30 and 9.05, between 9.05 and 9.30 and between 9.30 and 10.00. Explain that!
Well in my theory, slowly developing, one is taboo, one is untrue and one is Madeleine. All IMO.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #350 on: September 12, 2017, 12:13:33 PM »
Which one is untrue?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #351 on: September 12, 2017, 01:40:25 PM »
Which one is untrue?
How many clues do you need?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #352 on: September 12, 2017, 04:23:52 PM »
None I can explain the 3 door moves.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline sadie

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #353 on: September 12, 2017, 08:50:48 PM »
That observation is really important in the construction of a theory as to what is happening at the time.  So Matt and Russell organise this spur of the moment check which includes the rounding up of the Payne family.  What sort of relationship is this that one goes to round up the stragglers?  Why? why? why was this done? And even after that, the results of Matt's check was not sufficient for Gerry, and just as well for Gerry finds the internal door moved to a more open position than they had left it, suggesting someone was in the room (with hindsight).
If The Tanner sighting is the innocent Crechedad who the heck moved the bedroom door?
In polite society in the UK, Rob, one does not start their meal until everyone is seated and served.  The men especially were probably ravenously hungry.    They probably wouldn't start until the Paynes arrived.

It seems that Matt was a willing go-fer.   Your seeming thoughts are possible, but please bear in mind the innocent reason that he probably went.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #354 on: September 12, 2017, 09:25:31 PM »
None I can explain the 3 door moves.
Have a go then and compare that to Amaral's theory.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #355 on: September 12, 2017, 09:28:53 PM »
In polite society in the UK, Rob, one does not start their meal until everyone is seated and served.  The men especially were probably ravenously hungry.    They probably wouldn't start until the Paynes arrived.

It seems that Matt was a willing go-fer.   Your seeming thoughts are possible, but please bear in mind the innocent reason that he probably went.
So was the fact that Matt gone going to interfere with the ordering, or was it OK to order for he had been there for a while and then left again?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #356 on: September 13, 2017, 01:17:00 AM »
Have a go then and compare that to Amaral's theory.

Post for you on my theory thread.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline sadie

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #357 on: September 13, 2017, 02:01:32 AM »
So was the fact that Matt gone going to interfere with the ordering, or was it OK to order for he had been there for a while and then left again?
I cant be sure what happened, but the norm is to wait for all to seated before eating.  If they had no idea when The Paynes were arriving, they could give their orders to the waiter, but I doubt that they would set the order going.

Presumably they had three or four courses... so starters first which might be hot (soup likely) or cold.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #358 on: September 13, 2017, 03:10:53 AM »
I cant be sure what happened, but the norm is to wait for all to seated before eating.  If they had no idea when The Paynes were arriving, they could give their orders to the waiter, but I doubt that they would set the order going.

Presumably they had three or four courses... so starters first which might be hot (soup likely) or cold.
They only talk about starters and mains.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #359 on: September 13, 2017, 10:59:21 AM »
Starters were ordered at 9

Tapas from our patio doors, we can see when anybody else goes down there, because the original table was booked for eight thirty, erm, we were a bit later that night and it was about quarter to and we saw Gerry and Kate down there and so we locked up, went round and joined them at the table.
Now I don't recall seeing Jane and Russell there, but I'm told that Jane was there at the time as well. But we got there and sort of chatted and then Russell arrived. And we were all there, apart from Dave and Fiona and Fiona's mother, Dianne, at sort of five to nine, and they were, they were always sort of fairly relaxed and sort of a bit late and disorganised, I mean, that's a bit unfair, but they were certainly, they'd always be pretty much the last to arrive, they were always late for most things and you could see the light on in their apartment, you could see it from the Tapas and you could see them moving around so you knew they were still there. And so I decided that I'd go back and short of chivvy them along, because I felt a bit bad that, you know, there's just us in this restaurant, as there had been most of the week, there weren't often, erm, on one night they had a quiz and there were a few sort of more tables, erm, around that were occupied, but most of the time it was just us and I felt a bit bad that we said we'd be there at half eight and, you know, it was getting later and later and it was now coming to nine and we hadn't even got the table there to get ready to order, but by this time in the week we knew what we were going to order,
so I told Rach, you know, I'll have whatever it was, I think it was, erm, probably sardines because, you know, they were pretty good, erm, so I put my order in for her to order if the waiter came back and went to try and sort of chivvy them along. But as I was leaving the Tapas area, you know, and their light going off and knowing that they were coming down and on their way, and on my way up, about at that top corner before you turn left to get round the back, as you go up the top of the hill, we sort of passed on the way down and they were on their way to the restaurant, but it seemed a bit silly not to go ahead and just sort of check on Grace, even though we'd only been down there about fifteen minutes, but that was sort of a convenient time to go and do it. So I went and listened, I went, I found the time, because we'd only just been in there about fifteen minutes ago, and I just listened outside her shutters, so I just passed along that wall that goes to the two, sort of to the McCANN's apartment, so I listened outside our shutters and went along to their shutter and had a listen out there, not because I'd been asked to, but, or it's not the sort of thing you think about, it's just kind of, erm,'.http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.