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Offline Robittybob1

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #255 on: April 06, 2017, 10:13:02 PM »
Are there any current arguidos?
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Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #256 on: April 07, 2017, 08:34:52 AM »
A lack of understanding regarding the portuguese legal system and the meaning of the term arguido I should think, or if not that a decision to use terms that were snappier and more comprehensible to lowest common denominator readership.  Fact is - individuals were brought in for questioning as predicted by the papers.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/madeleine-mccann-arrests-imminent-after-british-police-request-assistance-from-portuguese-9056176.html

In essence nothing patently false in that article IMO.

Arrest's are patently false if they were just brought in as witness's,it was talk to try and big something up out of nothing,what ever the line of questioning was it clearly never furthered the case,DSI Duthie,we still do not have a "full understanding" of what happened,April 2016.
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Offline Brietta

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #257 on: April 07, 2017, 09:16:01 AM »
Arrest's are patently false if they were just brought in as witness's,it was talk to try and big something up out of nothing,what ever the line of questioning was it clearly never furthered the case,DSI Duthie,we still do not have a "full understanding" of what happened,April 2016.

Individuals were interviewed as witnesses.

Individuals were interviewed as arguidos.

Madeleine's case has funding until at least autumn, and should there be justification for it, probably beyond that.

One wonders at the negativity of some to the fact her case is active and being investigated.
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Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #258 on: April 07, 2017, 09:36:28 AM »
Arrest's are patently false if they were just brought in as witness's,it was talk to try and big something up out of nothing,what ever the line of questioning was it clearly never furthered the case,DSI Duthie,we still do not have a "full understanding" of what happened,April 2016.
So an arguido is nothing more than a witness now is it? 

Offline Robittybob1

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #259 on: April 07, 2017, 09:50:28 AM »
So an arguido is nothing more than a witness now is it?
Wikipedia on the arguido status: "A person who has arguido status has not been formally accused of a crime, arrested or charged,[10] and not all arguidos are subsequently charged. The police may ask a court to restrict an arguido's movement and oblige them to not leave the country. Arguidos cannot change their place of residence, without permission from a court. There is no time limit on the status."

So clearly from that the McCanns had permission to leave Portugal. 
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Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #260 on: April 07, 2017, 09:54:35 AM »
So an arguido is nothing more than a witness now is it?


They can be a witness as you know full well,in likely hood this is what they were back in 2014,did interviewing them further the case,not according to DSI Duthie speaking in 2016.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #261 on: April 07, 2017, 09:58:20 AM »

They can be a witness as you know full well,in likely hood this is what they were back in 2014,did interviewing them further the case,not according to DSI Duthie speaking in 2016.
Are you talking about the McCanns?  Why do you group them together as if they are making a joint statement?  There are two of them and they are acting independently.
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Offline barrier

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #262 on: April 07, 2017, 10:04:20 AM »
Are you talking about the McCanns?  Why do you group them together as if they are making a joint statement?  There are two of them and they are acting independently.

Catch up Rob,its about the crap reporting of imminent arrest's back in 2014,which in reality was just about OG wanting to question a few folks,it obviously was a blind alley.

But back to topic,what now post SC decision,just waiting for OG to wind up,person/or persons unknown removed Madeleine from 5a.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #263 on: April 07, 2017, 10:19:24 AM »
Catch up Rob,its about the crap reporting of imminent arrest's back in 2014,which in reality was just about OG wanting to question a few folks,it obviously was a blind alley.

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Help me out then instead of saying "they" tell me who "they" are please?

"They can be a witness as you know full well,in likely hood this is what they were back in 2014,did interviewing them further the case,not according to DSI Duthie speaking in 2016."
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Offline barrier

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #264 on: April 07, 2017, 10:39:13 AM »
Help me out then instead of saying "they" tell me who "they" are please?

"They can be a witness as you know full well,in likely hood this is what they were back in 2014,did interviewing them further the case,not according to DSI Duthie speaking in 2016."

The ones OG  had questioned in 2014 including R Murat.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2871343/Former-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Robert-Murat-arrives-Algarve-police-station-questioning-Met-detectives.html

ETA,also 4 earlier in the year,June or July if I recall.

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #265 on: April 07, 2017, 10:51:55 AM »
The ones OG  had questioned in 2014 including R Murat.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2871343/Former-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Robert-Murat-arrives-Algarve-police-station-questioning-Met-detectives.html

ETA,also 4 earlier in the year,June or July if I recall.

Thanks for clarifying that.  RM was questioned as a witness but had a lawyer present.  How does that work for witnesses has to answer all questions truthfully.  When they are being interviewed by Operation Grange officers in Portugal are they following the Portuguese or the British codes?
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Offline barrier

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #266 on: April 07, 2017, 10:57:09 AM »
Thanks for clarifying that.  RM was questioned as a witness but had a lawyer present.  How does that work for witnesses has to answer all questions truthfully.  When they are being interviewed by Operation Grange officers in Portugal are they following the Portuguese or the British codes?

Because as a witness he can claim arguido status allowing him representation.The Portuguese I would think it being their case would have their code followed.

Wiki.

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(law) Under the Portuguese legal system, a person kept for questioning as a witness to a crime, who is not a formal suspect. (Arrests can only be made after police have designated an individual as an arguido. A person can also request this status for the rights it gives, such as the right to a legal representative and the right to remain silent.)
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #267 on: April 07, 2017, 11:08:33 AM »
Thanks for clarifying that.  RM was questioned as a witness but had a lawyer present.  How does that work for witnesses has to answer all questions truthfully.  When they are being interviewed by Operation Grange officers in Portugal are they following the Portuguese or the British codes?

A witness cannot be asked incriminating questions.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #268 on: April 07, 2017, 11:13:51 AM »
A witness cannot be asked incriminating questions.

And an Arguido doesn't have to answer them.  So that's the end of that.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #269 on: April 07, 2017, 11:19:15 AM »
And an Arguido doesn't have to answer them.  So that's the end of that.
So did RM request arguido status so he didn't need to answer any questions or did he answer everything? 
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