So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?

[stephen25000]

Friendship is what causes one person to support or protect another and any organisation that facilitates friendship is liable to find itself tainted by any shady dealing associated with friends who are members.

We're not talking about friendship here Slarti, it's the freemasons, an organization of people dating back a few hundred years,  accompanied by rules, secrecy and protection of fellow members.

[Mr Gray]

Do posters realise that the remit did not appear until 6 months after the review started
Time for SY to interview the McCanns and the tapas friends ... rule them out and decide abduction as the most likely scenario
Obviously new evidence could come to light which would alter their thinking and rule the McCanns back in

[slartibartfast]

We're not talking about friendship here Slarti, it's the freemasons, an organization of people dating back a few hundred years,  accompanied by rules, secrecy and protection of fellow members.

...and it rules specifically against supporting anyone's activities which are against either the law of god or man.

[stephen25000]

...and it rules specifically against supporting anyone's activities which are against either the law of god or man.

I really can't believe that you are that naive

So, in the modern world, what is the purpose and function of freemasonry  ?

[ShiningInLuz]

I asked you this question before and you ignored it - do you think it's possible the McCanns are involved in a cover up involving the hiding of their dead child's body?

Yes, because I know the logistics of how they could have done it.  It is therefore possible.

Is it possible that the McCanns could have hidden Madeleine's corpse, survived the searching, retrieved the corpse, then disposed of the corpse?  Yes, because I know the logistics of how they could have done it.  It is therefore possible.

You are posing daft challenges, Alfie.  The crunch question is 'do I have any evidence whatsoever that is happened either of these ways'?  To which the answer is no - I have not a shred of evidence that either of these options happened.

You are asking daft questions.  Hopefully, OG is working to a higher level of scenario.  But it should include the McCanns in the remit, not just position them off limits.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Let's have some evidence that OG have actually questioned the McCann's and the rest of the group.

Speculation , not included.

Indeed.

OR let us  have proof if the SY discussed any McCann issue with Social Services- it is quite extraordinary they were given a hero welcome after what they had done. I believe the real reasons they left Portugual was to escape the PJ initiating proceedings to have some sort of charge brought against them.  I do not think they are being proteced by the Masons, however so many things just don't add up.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Sorry, you're wrong on that.

https://www.owf.org.uk/

I see this  as a woman charity organisation.  The freemasons are male only. There are many variations of this organisation, there is a catholic version.  The original did begin in biblical times. It may have evolved many times since then. It is the same with the Orange Order  it is a male and female section. The men to the   whatever and the women bake cakes and raise funds...

[slartibartfast]

I see this  as a woman charity organisation.  The freemasons are male only. There are many variations of this organisation, there is a catholic version.  The original did begin in biblical times. It may have evolved many times since then. It is the same with the Orange Order  it is a male and female section. The men to the   whatever and the women bake cakes and raise funds...

OWF is Freemasons as with all branches Charity is one of the major aims.

[Alfie]

Yes, because I know the logistics of how they could have done it.  It is therefore possible.

Is it possible that the McCanns could have hidden Madeleine's corpse, survived the searching, retrieved the corpse, then disposed of the corpse?  Yes, because I know the logistics of how they could have done it.  It is therefore possible.

You are posing daft challenges, Alfie.  The crunch question is 'do I have any evidence whatsoever that is happened either of these ways'?  To which the answer is no - I have not a shred of evidence that either of these options happened.

You are asking daft questions.  Hopefully, OG is working to a higher level of scenario.  But it should include the McCanns in the remit, not just position them off limits.

Thanks for your assessment of my question, and for answering it, despite its alleged daftness.  If it is your assessment that the McCanns could have committed this crime then it follows that potentially there may be evidence to uncover which points to their involvement.  You however have convinced yourself that the Met have decided that the McCanns are "off limits" meaning any evidence uncovered against them would have to be ignored or suppressed .  You have speculated that the McCanns may be involved in hiding their child's body, so what is stopping you from speculating as to why the Met would be protecting the McCanns by declaring them "off limits"? 

[Mr Gray]

Yes, because I know the logistics of how they could have done it.  It is therefore possible.

Is it possible that the McCanns could have hidden Madeleine's corpse, survived the searching, retrieved the corpse, then disposed of the corpse?  Yes, because I know the logistics of how they could have done it.  It is therefore possible.

You are posing daft challenges, Alfie.  The crunch question is 'do I have any evidence whatsoever that is happened either of these ways'?  To which the answer is no - I have not a shred of evidence that either of these options happened.

You are asking daft questions.  Hopefully, OG is working to a higher level of scenario.  But it should include the McCanns in the remit, not just position them off limits.

it is possible in your opinion....I need to remind you again.

OG obviously is working at a higher level and it is my opinion that they have ruled the aprents out having interviewed them and once the parents are ruled out abduction is most likely. It is also my opinion that the mccanns are not off limits and should evidence arise that implicates them they will be further questioned.

you continue to post your opinion as fact

[stephen25000]

it is possible in your opinion....I need to remind you again.

OG obviously is working at a higher level and it is my opinion that they have ruled the aprents out having interviewed them and once the parents are ruled out abduction is most likely. It is also my opinion that the mccanns are not off limits and should evidence arise that implicates them they will be further questioned.

you continue to post your opinion as fact

..and your opinion is worth ?

[Mr Gray]

..and your opinion is worth ?

as much as anyone elses on this forum. At least I have the sense to post that it is my opinion

[ferryman]

it is possible in your opinion....I need to remind you again.

OG obviously is working at a higher level and it is my opinion that they have ruled the aprents out having interviewed them and once the parents are ruled out abduction is most likely. It is also my opinion that the mccanns are not off limits and should evidence arise that implicates them they will be further questioned.

you continue to post your opinion as fact

That's what I believe in a nutshell.

I also differ from SIL's view that it is even logistically possible that the McCanns could have pulled off a crime of 'body concealment' following some accident.

[ShiningInLuz]

Thanks for your assessment of my question, and for answering it, despite its alleged daftness.  If it is your assessment that the McCanns could have committed this crime then it follows that potentially there may be evidence to uncover which points to their involvement.  You however have convinced yourself that the Met have decided that the McCanns are "off limits" meaning any evidence uncovered against them would have to be ignored or suppressed .  You have speculated that the McCanns may be involved in hiding their child's body, so what is stopping you from speculating as to why the Met would be protecting the McCanns by declaring them "off limits"?

I have not speculated about the involvement of the McCanns.

Please try harder.

[Robittybob1]

I have not speculated about the involvement of the McCanns.

Please try harder.

This is some sort of history lesson!