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Offline Brietta

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #120 on: March 30, 2017, 05:54:45 PM »
That's a completely inaccurate description of what happened, but portray it that way if you choose.

The McCanns were not vilified in the early months by the people of Luz, were they?  I have no idea how many times or when they appeared on Portuguese TV, but it was hardly hearts and minds stuff, was it?

You have claimed to be a practitioner of PR, but I am not seeing anything to assure me that you understand the basics.

The McCanns chose to keep Luz and Portugal at arms length.  It was a glaring mistake.

The McCanns may decide to go for McCanns v Portugal  That would be another glaring mistake, even if they eventually 'won' a pyrrhic victory.   It wouldn't help Madeleine and would simply increase discontent against the McCanns.

For the first months the McCanns were 'gagged' by official secrecy during a period when the Portuguese press was rife with stories from 'a source close to the investigation' which was setting the agenda against them and their friends.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #121 on: March 30, 2017, 06:01:10 PM »
The biggest 'PR disaster' possible was created within the pages of Goncalo Amaral's book excusing his side part in Madeleine's case ... there is absolutely nothing that Madeleine's parents could ever do that would surpass that outrage.
It became a PR disaster when the McCanns chose not to demolish Amaral's book based on the PJ Files.

Anyone reading the archiving report can demolish Amaral's theory, using Portuguese police work to do so.  Guess what?  The McCanns did not select that route.  Another disastrous decision.

You may not be aware of the fact that most of those 'following' the case do not know the archival report cleared the McCanns of neglect.  The prevailing view is that they should have been prosecuted, but it is not based on a reading of the archiving report.

A PR disaster of monumental proportions.  Gerald Ratner could not have matched this.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #122 on: March 30, 2017, 06:28:14 PM »
That's a completely inaccurate description of what happened, but portray it that way if you choose.

The McCanns were not vilified in the early months by the people of Luz, were they?  I have no idea how many times or when they appeared on Portuguese TV, but it was hardly hearts and minds stuff, was it?

You have claimed to be a practitioner of PR, but I am not seeing anything to assure me that you understand the basics.

The McCanns chose to keep Luz and Portugal at arms length.  It was a glaring mistake.

The McCanns may decide to go for McCanns v Portugal  That would be another glaring mistake, even if they eventually 'won' a pyrrhic victory.   It wouldn't help Madeleine and would simply increase discontent against the McCanns.

I have never worked out why the group thought that telling Sky and the BBC was the sensible thing to do. Madeleine disappeared in Portugal, they had Portuguese speakers available, why not approach the Portuguese media? An appeal in the Portuguese media was far more likely to unearth useful witnesses than an appeal in the UK. They weren't just looking in the wrong place, they were looking in the wrong country.
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Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #123 on: March 30, 2017, 06:32:21 PM »
I have never worked out why the group thought that telling Sky and the BBC was the sensible thing to do. Madeleine disappeared in Portugal, they had Portuguese speakers available, why not approach the Portuguese media? An appeal in the Portuguese media was far more likely to unearth useful witnesses than an appeal in the UK. They weren't just looking in the wrong place, they were looking in the wrong country.

By Portuguese secrecy laws, that would have been an eminently sensible thing to do.

Alfie

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Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #124 on: March 30, 2017, 06:37:23 PM »
It became a PR disaster when the McCanns chose not to demolish Amaral's book based on the PJ Files.

Anyone reading the archiving report can demolish Amaral's theory, using Portuguese police work to do so.  Guess what?  The McCanns did not select that route.  Another disastrous decision.

You may not be aware of the fact that most of those 'following' the case do not know the archival report cleared the McCanns of neglect.  The prevailing view is that they should have been prosecuted, but it is not based on a reading of the archiving report.

A PR disaster of monumental proportions.  Gerald Ratner could not have matched this.
I thought the court case was never about challenging the specific contents of Amaral's book but only the damage it did to the McCanns' reputation...?  &%+((£

Offline jassi

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #125 on: March 30, 2017, 06:45:58 PM »
All that matters is the end result.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #126 on: March 30, 2017, 06:47:27 PM »
The Portuguese legal action is over.

The Mccanns need to move on, and do what they have claimed to have been doing.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #127 on: March 30, 2017, 06:55:47 PM »
'...... David Davis confirmed the controlling European Court of Justice will have no role in Britain after Brexit...'


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3216279/gina-miller-wants-to-halt-eu-law-from-being-scrapped-in-great-repeal-bill-as-she-threatens-to-take-government-to-court-again-over-henry-viii-powers/

I wonder if this could effect the Mccanns.  %£&)**# &%&£(+
The McCanns are taking Portugal to the ECHR.  Portugal is still staying in the EU.
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stephen25000

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Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #128 on: March 30, 2017, 06:58:30 PM »
The McCanns are taking Portugal to the ECHR.  Portugal is still staying in the EU.

Can we have a cite for that ?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #129 on: March 30, 2017, 06:59:09 PM »
Just supposing they win - in 2027 or so, what relevance will it have?
Madeleine will be able to celebrate the win with her Mum and Dad and sister and brother.
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stephen25000

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Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #130 on: March 30, 2017, 06:59:57 PM »
Madeleine will be able to celebrate the win with her Mum and Dad and sister and brother.

Really ?

When is that then ?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #131 on: March 30, 2017, 07:01:20 PM »
Really ?

When is that then ?
If they win in 2027 like Jassi suggested.
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Offline jassi

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #132 on: March 30, 2017, 07:01:54 PM »
Madeleine will be able to celebrate the win with her Mum and Dad and sister and brother.

I fear you are sadly deluded if you think that likely.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #133 on: March 30, 2017, 07:03:41 PM »
If they win in 2027 like Jassi suggested.

No chance.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: So what now, post Supreme Court decisions?
« Reply #134 on: March 30, 2017, 07:06:14 PM »
Can we have a cite for that ?
Yes, read yesterday's newspaper.
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