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Offline faithlilly

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #90 on: April 05, 2017, 10:46:11 AM »
Do you think 9 statements by 9 individuals about the events of one day that correspond in pretty much exact detail are more or less likely to be jointly agreed upon in advance?

I think Exton, being ex police and MI5, would know all about statement taking and he certainly wasn't convince by the McCann's and their friend's story.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #91 on: April 05, 2017, 12:15:53 PM »
I think Exton, being ex police and MI5, would know all about statement taking and he certainly wasn't convince by the McCann's and their friend's story.
Fair enough but what is the truth.  Who is at fault, Kate. Gerry or some of the Tapas 7 and other friends?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #92 on: April 05, 2017, 12:17:47 PM »
Fair enough but what is the truth.  Who is at fault, Kate. Gerry or some of the Tapas 7 and other friends?

No one is at fault

Offline G-Unit

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #93 on: April 05, 2017, 12:37:58 PM »
I think Exton, being ex police and MI5, would know all about statement taking and he certainly wasn't convince by the McCann's and their friend's story.

Apart from the PJ, the Public Prosecutors and members of the public there seem to be just two others who see the story as less than satisfactory. John Stalker and Exton.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #94 on: April 05, 2017, 12:44:26 PM »
Apart from the PJ, the Public Prosecutors and members of the public there seem to be just two others who see the story as less than satisfactory. John Stalker and Exton.

Whereas the current investigating force regard the McCanns as not suspects
You could also be misrepresenting the opinion of stalker and Exton
I would say you are

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #95 on: April 05, 2017, 12:51:53 PM »
Whereas the current investigating force regard the McCanns as not suspects
You could also be misrepresenting the opinion of stalker and Exton
I would say you are
But you would have to say that SY would agree that the McCanns needed to be suspects at the commencement of the investigation, which must imply that they have been ruled out as being a suspect (at least by SY).
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #96 on: April 05, 2017, 01:04:35 PM »
No one is at fault
If there is a discrepancy wouldn't you say someone is at fault? 
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Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #97 on: April 05, 2017, 01:12:04 PM »
I think Exton, being ex police and MI5, would know all about statement taking and he certainly wasn't convince by the McCann's and their friend's story.
if you're going to respond to my posts at least answer the questions raised before making your own point, would that be possible?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #98 on: April 05, 2017, 01:30:55 PM »
The part that intrigues me is this "Oakley’s six-month investigation included placing undercover agents inside the Ocean Club where the family stayed, lie detector tests, covert surveillance and a forensic re-examination of all existing evidence."  I wonder if the undercover agent with the Ocean Club got anywhere.  It is the area I think the PJ really missed with the OC and MW senior staff statements not linking properly.
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic21297.html

It intrigues me too!
Oakley covered a lot of ground in six months when you consider The Met needed up to 40 ish bodies for three plus years.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #99 on: April 05, 2017, 01:45:48 PM »
if you're going to respond to my posts at least answer the questions raised before making your own point, would that be possible?

Not having been trained in statement analysis I bow to the expertise of someone who has, Exton, who identified 'anomalies' and whose report was 'hypercritical' of the McCanns.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Benice

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #100 on: April 05, 2017, 01:51:13 PM »
Apart from the PJ, the Public Prosecutors and members of the public there seem to be just two others who see the story as less than satisfactory. John Stalker and Exton.

I think it's pretty obvious from what he says in Oct 2007 - that John Stalker did not know about Portugal's Secrecy Laws or that it had been made clear to the McCanns/ Tapas 7 that (although elements of the PJ were breaking the laws at will)  - they could face a prison sentence if they broke them and tried to defend themselves or oneanother,         He compares them with other cases he has worked on where it is apparent that no such prohibitive  law of the land existed and so it's not a fair comparison.

I do not believe he would have made the following comments emphasizing their 'silence' if he did know about the Portuguese Secrecy laws.
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McCanns 'are hiding a big secret', former police chief claims
Last updated at 14:34 28 October 2007

Kate and Gerry McCann are hiding a "big secret" about the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine, according a former police chief claims.
John Stalker, who headed a famous inquiry into whether suspected IRA men were killed by RUC officers, is suspicious of their silence.

The former Deputy Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police told the Sunday Express: “My gut instinct is that some big secret is probably being covered up.

“I have watched the investigation into the Madeleine McCann case drag out for six months.

“One thing above all worries me: Why have the McCanns and the seven other members of their group – the Tapas Nine – remained so silent?

“Unlike other high-profile cases I have worked on, not one of them has been prepared to break ranks or really come out and support each other.

“After all this time and pressure, I cannot believe that nobody wants to speak.

“I have a real suspicion that we are not being told the whole truth. There is something else there, some issue that members of the party are embarrassed about”


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-490254/McCanns-hiding-big-secret-police-chief-claims.html#ixzz4dNQabtO9
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Alfie

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Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #101 on: April 05, 2017, 02:33:21 PM »
Not having been trained in statement analysis I bow to the expertise of someone who has, Exton, who identified 'anomalies' and whose report was 'hypercritical' of the McCanns.
Isit only Exton's expertise you bow to then?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #102 on: April 05, 2017, 03:51:06 PM »
Isit only Exton's expertise you bow to then?

What a strange question.

Exton just happens to be a professional who had access to all the files. Does you have cause to doubt his opinion?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #103 on: April 05, 2017, 04:50:08 PM »
What a strange question.

Exton just happens to be a professional who had access to all the files. Does you have cause to doubt his opinion?

When we hear his opinion it's possible to make a decision
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Alfie

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Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #104 on: April 05, 2017, 05:00:14 PM »
What a strange question.

Exton just happens to be a professional who had access to all the files. Does you have cause to doubt his opinion?
It's just that there are other experts in their field whose views you don't bow to, or who you believe lie to the general public.