Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"

[Alfie]

depends in which country the having is taking place.....I think in portugal incest is legal...not sure about having a giraffe though

Alice has become tiresomely literal all of a sudden, anything to try and get some attention I suppose.

[Mr Gray]

Next ...knowledge of an area is not knowing an area...but such precise perfect logic is wasted on someone with eyes wide shut

[Mr Gray]

Alice has become tiresomely literal all of a sudden, anything to try and get some attention I suppose.

i think shes feeling a bit bruised having been caught out on her wind velocity post...the wind has speed ...the thing measuring windspeed has angular velocity

[Alfie]

i think shes feeling a bit bruised having been caught out on her wind velocity post...the wind has speed ...the thing measuring windspeed has angular velocity

It doesn't surprise me that Alice knows alot about wind, frankly.

[Alice Purjorick]

Alice has become tiresomely literal all of a sudden, anything to try and get some attention I suppose.

I have carte blanche to be the site WUM according to you O wisest of pelicans. Why should I pass up the opportunity. Especially when it gives you the opportunity to make your customary fatuous remarks; profundity not being your long suit, old stick.

[Mr Gray]

I have carte blanche to be the site WUM according to you O wisest of pelicans. Why should I pass up the opportunity. Especially when it gives you the opportunity to make your customary fatuous remarks; profundity not being your long suit, old stick.

your problem is you take pride in being the site WUM ...but in reality you dont wind anybody up...sad but true

[ShiningInLuz]

"Tough, Alfie.  The archiving report does not mention knowledge sufficient to hide a body" - wrong.  It does.  It is the ONLY reason why the subject of the McCanns movements in or around PdL are mentioned in the archiving report.  There is no other reason to mention it.  The report is correct to say the McCanns did not have sufficient knowledge of the local terrain to hide a body.  If the report is wrong perhaps you would like to re-write it for us now and tell us what it should have said with regard to the McCanns knowledge of the local terrain and whether it was sufficient to enable them to find a body disposal site?  No, of course you won't.

There you go again, Alfie.  If you misquote often enough, surely one of your misquotes will strike home.

The report says, in simple English for the avoidance of doubt, that the McCanns did not go beyond the OC and the beach.

Both of them did.

I made no claim about body disposal or body concealment whatsoever.

Just to throw a little petrol on the bonfire, the McCanns did not need to leave 'the OC' to dispose of or to conceal Madeleine.

So have a little think, Alfie.  Are we talking about the archiving report?  Or are we talking about body disposal/body concealment.

[Mr Gray]

There you go again, Alfie.  If you misquote often enough, surely one of your misquotes will strike home.

The report says, in simple English for the avoidance of doubt, that the McCanns did not go beyond the OC and the beach.

Both of them did.

I made no claim about body disposal or body concealment whatsoever.

Just to throw a little petrol on the bonfire, the McCanns did not need to leave 'the OC' to dispose of or to conceal Madeleine.

So have a little think, Alfie.  Are we talking about the archiving report?  Or are we talking about body disposal/body concealment.

you quoted the archiving report which made this claim

[ShiningInLuz]

you quoted the archiving report which made this claim

So I made no claim.

[Mr Gray]

So I made no claim.

perhaps you could tell us clearly what you claim because you quoted the archiving report which discusses the mccanns knowledge of the area re disposing of a body

[ShiningInLuz]

perhaps you could tell us clearly what you claim because you quoted the archiving report which discusses the mccanns knowledge of the area re disposing of a body

In the quote where I quoted the quote. 

And in which I claimed the archiving report got it wrong re movements of the McCanns.

BUT MADE NO CLAIM WHATSOEVER RE BODY DISPOSAL.

If you get such a simple fact wrong, what hope is there for McCann supporters?

[Mr Gray]

In the quote where I quoted the quote. 

And in which I claimed the archiving report got it wrong re movements of the McCanns.

BUT MADE NO CLAIM WHATSOEVER RE BODY DISPOSAL.

If you get such a simple fact wrong, what hope is there for McCann supporters?

again this is your post,,


Even if, hypothetically, one could admit that Gerald and Kate McCann might be responsible over the child's death, it would still have to be explained how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and where to they freed themselves of her body within the restricted time frame that would have been available to them to do so. Their daily routine, until the 3rd of May, had been circumscribed to the narrow borders of the 'Ocean Club' resort and to the beach that lies next to it, unknowing the surrounding terrain and, apart from the

you absolutely...100% talk of body disposal

[ShiningInLuz]

again this is your post,,


Even if, hypothetically, one could admit that Gerald and Kate McCann might be responsible over the child's death, it would still have to be explained how, where through, when, with what means, with the help of whom and where to they freed themselves of her body within the restricted time frame that would have been available to them to do so. Their daily routine, until the 3rd of May, had been circumscribed to the narrow borders of the 'Ocean Club' resort and to the beach that lies next to it, unknowing the surrounding terrain and, apart from the

you absolutely...100% talk of body disposal

Nope, quote does, I didn't.

[misty]

This is what MO told the PJ on 10/5/07 i.e.the info used in the archiving report

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-10MAY.htm
"By the way, he relates that, on a date he does not recall for sure but on one day in the past week during which it rained in PdL (thinking it was 2 May, the day before the disappearance) he went on a 40-minute run on the streets around the resort together with KM".

This is what he said in his rogatory 9/4/08 i.e. after the archiving report had been written
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

Reply 'Erm, I remember I went running with Kate at lunchtime, she's quite a good runner, and we went out on the road all the way up to the main junc, erm, the sort of main road where you access Praia da Luz from and then back'.
 
4078 'What sort of distance would that be''
Reply 'Erm, yeah, I think it'd be about three or four miles, maybe each way'.


The PJ report was only wrong because the PJ never sought to clarify the route the runners took. Presumably it wasn't important to them at the time.

[Mr Gray]

Nope, quote does, I didn't.

its your post