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Do you have reservations as to Dr Vincent Tabak's guilt as a murderer?

Guilty as Charged
10 (55.6%)
Guilty of Manslaughter not Murder
3 (16.7%)
Think he could be Innocent
3 (16.7%)
He is Innocent
2 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Voting closed: April 06, 2017, 02:30:27 PM

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Offline nina

Re: Who has Doubts as to Dr Vincent Tabak's Guilt ?
« Reply #210 on: July 12, 2017, 01:27:27 PM »
What don't you understand about my comment? All I did was to google Lyndsey Farmery and keyed in what I saw, apart from the word apparently.

I have already told you that the only reason I got involved, was that this happened on my doorstep and so I was interested in what you all thought and how much you were all getting wrong about the topography. I thought that I could give you all some help with that, i.e. Park St is not marked as a hill but is and all of that sort of stuff. Obviously you are not interested, so be it.

Nine I do not have my own agenda and I am not taking the Michael out of you. You have your own opinion VT is innocent I tend to believe VT when he said he was guilty of killing Joanna Yeates.

If you are so convinced why not get in touch with one of the investigators who do programmes for Ch4 and the beeb?

I'm sorry you have found me to be somewhat lacking in the `innocent' department, but as I have said I believe VT, why would he cry and say he was sorry to Mr and Mrs Yeates in court if he didn't do it?

Ah well more questions than answers (good song)

Offline Nine

Re: Who has Doubts as to Dr Vincent Tabak's Guilt ?
« Reply #211 on: July 12, 2017, 02:24:40 PM »
What don't you understand about my comment? All I did was to google Lyndsey Farmery and keyed in what I saw, apart from the word apparently.

I have already told you that the only reason I got involved, was that this happened on my doorstep and so I was interested in what you all thought and how much you were all getting wrong about the topography. I thought that I could give you all some help with that, i.e. Park St is not marked as a hill but is and all of that sort of stuff. Obviously you are not interested, so be it.

Nine I do not have my own agenda and I am not taking the Michael out of you. You have your own opinion VT is innocent I tend to believe VT when he said he was guilty of killing Joanna Yeates.

If you are so convinced why not get in touch with one of the investigators who do programmes for Ch4 and the beeb?

I'm sorry you have found me to be somewhat lacking in the `innocent' department, but as I have said I believe VT, why would he cry and say he was sorry to Mr and Mrs Yeates in court if he didn't do it?

Ah well more questions than answers (good song)

Sorry if I offended you Nina... You right ... I should just ask you questions relating to the area...

As for getting into with the Investigator program.... I did at one point believe that was what this forum was about..... But wherever it is or not doesn't really matter....

I did contact Mark Williams Thomas... He asked me if I was Drew Ashman....

So I asked him if he was PaulatheRed... He did follow me for 2 ticks and when I asked him other questions... He stopped following me... Maybe even blocked me...



I would have hoped for a little more from him... But as I say someone is always pulling my donkeys.....  If a TV program takes this up great... But I am not holding my breath....  Didn't understand Mark William Thomas's reaction and I believed in the early part of the case it was he who questioned the Police...

Apart from contacting MWT whom I thought would have been my best bet.. I have not contacted any other program.... I  don't really know how to go about that sort of thing... And unless any of the media are really interested in this case.. They will not consider such a venture....

Maybe all of my writings will do some good... Someone out there will take what I say seriously.... My over riding problem of what I appear to have uncovered.... Whether or not you believe in Dr Vincent Tabaks Innocence or not.... Is the misuse..(IMO)... Of the judicial system....  Which is not good...

But for me it's what I came here for... And that was to put the information back on the Internet that was removed.... And stand by what I believe to be an Innocent Dutchman....

I'm sure I will make more enemies than friends with my writings....  But That is life as they say.....  I don't know... I suppose I get disheartened sometimes and cannot believe the info I find... As I say to my  husband.... After all this time I shouldn't be able to find new things....

My family and friends think I shouldn't waste my time....  Which in one respect is a fair comment.... But I hate Injustice... And very few people seem to care about The Placid Dutchman....   

So Nina..... Unless someone from the media / TV Program... Even looks at this case... Dr Vincent Tabak will be where he is.... Which is anyone's guess....

Too many odd things have happened to put This Dutch National Away.... The question is why?.

I just can hope that somewhere down the line...  This Case will be looked at.... And those that behaved in an appalling way to put The Dutchman in Prison.... Will get their just desserts....


Edit.... When AH mentioned a possible Serial Killer It was the first time I thought There may be a chance for The Placid Dutchman... But I don't know.... I go through too many emotions about this case... And I am not taking anything away from The Yeates Family... But surely they would want to know who really killed their daughter...

Again.... i sit here.. typing... wondering if i am actually getting anywhere... `and my family and friends don't need to hear me talk about it anymore... My daughter had banned me mentioning Dr Vincent tabak name... which is not surprising really... everytime I find something out I tell her... she knows things don't add up about this case but.. She's a young woman that is not really Interested...

So... I have here to write what I find... And hope that it will have an impact.... And someone with some power will do something to help The Dutchman....


Offline AerialHunter

Re: Who has Doubts as to Dr Vincent Tabak's Guilt ?
« Reply #212 on: July 13, 2017, 05:48:59 PM »
At the police station and for the first three of his preliminary appearances in court, VT was represented by lawyers from Crossman & Co of Radstock and Albion Chambers. The most important thing about this team is that they told the magistrate that he would be applying for bail the next day, only to change their minds the following day at the Crown Court. Why did they do this? The only probable explanation is that the lady from the CPS (who as we know had been planning this for some time) chose her moment to notify VT's lawyers of something that convinced them that bail would not be granted and that their client was therefore guilty.

This is enormously important. I believe that the crying girl ruse was intended to deceive primarily Crossman & Co. You may have other explanations. The CPS may have told VT's lawyers about the 43 injuries to the body (which they would otherwise not have learnt about until their own pathologist examined it later). These had not been made public. They may have alleged that VT attempted to incriminate the landlord, which Crossman & Co wouldn't have known as their client certainly wouldn't have told them.

Did the CPS at this stage reveal to VT's lawyers the contents of CJ's 2nd witness statement, which is STILL to this day a closely guarded secret? Did the CPS at this state reveal what was really talked about during the long, expensive interview at Schiphol, which, again, we can only guess at? Did the CPS reveal that VT already knew Joanna well, as an unattributed press report claimed at the time, though it was never even hinted at in court? The CPS knew that VT would sack his lawyers, and this meant that the new lawyers who took over his defence would not have access to whatever secrets the CPS had revealed to Crossman & Co.

This is all far more important than a naive faith in any so-called confession that anyone who reads what was actually said in court can see for themselves wasn't a confession at all.

Very astute of you Leonora, certainly adds to my proposition that the CPS has something much more important to hide. If they knew they had a serial killer on the loose and could not identify him, it would make more sense to try and bring closure to cases like this if they thought such a murder could be attributed to a series continuing over 30 years or more. Using standard policing philosophy of never looking further than the front door, once Tabak had been identified as living in the immediate vicinity the CPS are on the home run in terms of securing a conviction.
There is none so noble or in receipt of his fellows unbridled adulation as that police officer who willingly deceives to protect one of his own kind and, by virtue of birthright, extends that privilege to his family.

Offline Nine

Re: Who has Doubts as to Dr Vincent Tabak's Guilt ?
« Reply #213 on: July 13, 2017, 06:02:03 PM »
Very astute of you Leonora, certainly adds to my proposition that the CPS has something much more important to hide. If they knew they had a serial killer on the loose and could not identify him, it would make more sense to try and bring closure to cases like this if they thought such a murder could be attributed to a series continuing over 30 years or more. Using standard policing philosophy of never looking further than the front door, once Tabak had been identified as living in the immediate vicinity the CPS are on the home run in terms of securing a conviction.

leonora is extremely astute.... Whilst I behave like an extra from The Young Ones.... What was it Alexi Sayles says about Kippers!!!

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ALEXEI: I've not always been mad, you know. But, um, I was actually driven mad by the indifference of architectual and council planning.
You see, I live in a tower block, and um, the thing about those is there is terrible noise problems because there's no noise insulation at all, you know,
and eight floors below you there's always some b........ with a Yamaha home organ, you know. You're just about to go to sleep and you hear this [makes organ noises]
'ROLL OUT THE BARREL' [makes organ noises]. And, like, the people upstairs, I can't understand what they're doing, you know.
I listen, and all I can hear is this weird noise and goes, 'VROOM! VROOM! BLAM-BLAM! VROOM! VROOM! BLAM-BLAM!'
It sounds, right, it sounds like two elephants on a motorbike riding round and round, while a seal bangs a kipper on the table.
I went upstairs to complain, and the door was answered by this elephant in a crash helmet! Standing behind him is this seal going [miming hitting something repeatedly]
'What is it now, Ralph?' I don't know, something just cracked inside and I starting thinking I was a piece of sponge. I jsut started to get very depressed..


Oh well.... I suppose my writings are that of an Elephant riding a motorbike !!! Whilst A seal named Anne Bangs a kipper on the table....

Oh MY God... You know my name is Ralph!!!





Edit.... Can't find the full clip but here's a taste ... 

"The Young Ones... excellent Program.... loved it!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7bvy4iBFAs

Offline Leonora

Re: Who has Doubts as to Dr Vincent Tabak's Guilt ?
« Reply #214 on: July 13, 2017, 08:52:44 PM »
leonora is extremely astute.... Whilst I behave like an extra from The Young Ones.... What was it Alexi Sayles says about Kippers!!!

Oh well.... I suppose my writings are that of an Elephant riding a motorbike !!! Whilst A seal named Anne Bangs a kipper on the table....

Oh MY God... You know my name is Ralph!!!

Edit.... Can't find the full clip but here's a taste ... 

"The Young Ones... excellent Program.... loved it!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7bvy4iBFAs
First the elephant was in the room, but now she's riding a motorbike. No wonder she is a threatened species. I just hope the tower block wasn't refurbished by the same firm that put the cladding on Grenfell Tower.

Offline Nine

Re: Who has Doubts as to Dr Vincent Tabak's Guilt ?
« Reply #215 on: September 27, 2017, 09:11:30 PM »
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Are you a victim of a genuine miscarriage of justice?
In recent months, I have been working with the multi award winning investigative reporter, Mark Williams-Thomas, best known for his extraordinary investigative work leading to the exposure of Jimmy Savile. He has investigated, reviewed and reported on many of the biggest crime stories including: The Alps murders, Tia Sharp murder, Claudia Lawrence murder and the murder of Alice Gross, together with his work on the Oscar Pistorius trial in South Africa. His work has led to numerous awards, including two Royal Television Society Awards, a Broadcasting Press Guild Award and an International Peabody Award. He is also BAFTA nominated.

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Although much of Mark’s worked has focused on detecting crime, he has also reviewed many miscarriages of justice and is currently actively involved in some high-profile reviews with a view to reversing wrongful convictions and establishing the truth.


Well I hope your looking at The Joanna Yeates case... I believe I have produced many posts that cast doubt on Dr Vincent Tabk's guilt !! And it's about time The truth was known... !!!

https://insidetime.org/are-you-a-victim-of-a-genuine-miscarriage-of-justice/

Offline Nine

Re: Who has Doubts as to Dr Vincent Tabak's Guilt ?
« Reply #216 on: October 04, 2017, 03:22:19 PM »
I want to start with simple questions..

Why would Joanna Yeates let Dr Vincent Tabak into her flat???

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Re: Who has Doubts as to Dr Vincent Tabak's Guilt ?
« Reply #217 on: October 04, 2017, 04:21:49 PM »
I want to start with simple questions..

Why would Joanna Yeates let Dr Vincent Tabak into her flat???



Absolutely no evidence that she did----except for his story.

But then, I suppose I would let my next door neighbour in. I think people feel safe with their next door neighbours, unless there is something openly odd about them, particularly if they are of a similar age, similar situation, etc. I can imagine Joanna wanting to meet her neighbours: she was, by all accounts, a sociable person.

I actually find it more surprising that VT approached her-----if he did.

Offline Leonora

Re: Who has Doubts as to Dr Vincent Tabak's Guilt ?
« Reply #218 on: October 06, 2017, 02:59:57 PM »
I want to start with simple questions..

Why would Joanna Yeates let Dr Vincent Tabak into her flat???

It is not a "simple" question - it is a metaphysical or rhetorical question. The real $64,000 question is - "Why do the citizens of Bristol BELIEVE she let him into her flat?" Why is it apparently so easy for unscrupulous lawyers and journalists to deceive juries and the public so thoroughly that they come on to forums like this and persist in arguing that he must have killed her because he said he did it? Even the extraordinary behaviour of defence counsel Mr Clegg in court is easier to understand than that of the general public over this case.

There is a small possibility that Joanna did let him into her flat on this or other occasions, as indeed she let other people into her flat, including IKEA employees and friends celebrating halloween. There is a possibility that Joanna and Vincent already knew each other through joint architectural projects. A single unattributed report in a single tabloid newspaper said as much at the time of his arrest. This could explain why Paul Cook abruptly abandoned his client without any explanation.

Offline Nine

Re: Who has Doubts as to Dr Vincent Tabak's Guilt ?
« Reply #219 on: April 11, 2018, 08:33:05 AM »
Does Dr Vincent Tabak exist??

I have spent so much time on this I am begining to wonder if he exists at all....

* Tabak = (Translated)=Tobacco

* Vincent =??

Is that someones middle name ??

I now get

* First name ?
* middle name = vincent
* Tobacco =  Smoking man

Does Dr Vincent Tabak smoke?? Probably not....  It's all like code... Code for one person..... Thats how it appears to me....

It's like a Pantomime if it wasn't so serious....

So me talking about acting is true..... It's who is the actor....

I honestly don't know what to think at the mo.....  Joanna Yeates killer is walking around free and should be locked up, that is for sure....

Someone had to have friends in high places.... Everyone seems to know who killed Poor Joanna Yeates ... I hope they don't sleep at night... The public have been truly deceived.. And all this to save their own skin....

Lily Livered Coward... Yes.. "Cold Play.... Yellow for cowardice.... I hope Joanna Yeates haunts them in their sleep I hope she haunts them daily... I hope that the truth will come forth....
I do not think there are enough words to describe, the pitiful people who have perpetrated this act, Disgusting, disgraceful, self centered, self interested, self absorbed, unscrupulous, individuals....

Who have carried on like nothing has happened... Well I believe Joanna Yeates case should feature daily on all the Newspapers... I think Billboards with her picture slapped across them all over the nation.... Every bus and every train advertising what happened to this poor girl.... Motorways flashing signs..... Everywhere you look Joanna Yeates will be there.... As a reminder that people haven't forgotten what was done to her... How the perpetreters discarded this young woman as if she meant nothing at all....

Who in their right mind would dump someone on the roadside... Who in their right mind would want the nation to believe the rubbish that was spewed...

It's time the public stand up and demand to know the truth....

Where is the moral compass for these people?? What possessed them to think no-one would care about an imaginary Dutch National?? Did they believe that the porn and everything that was said about Dr Vincent Tabak would make everyone hate him enough not to question what had happened...

* Were the searches yours Mr Killer ?
* Was The Porn yours too Mr Killer??
* Was everything that was used in this trial about you??
* Did you see yourself every day getting away with this as every detail was read out across the media... Were you
   pleased that you had gotten away with this crime..??
* Do you look in the mirror in the morning and see a killer staring back at you??
* Are your accomplices proud??

An abomination, a scrapping off someones shoe.... A sorry excuse for a human being....
People will not forget... People will remember...If only to make sure future generations do not forget.... What you believe you have gotten away with today, will be passed on to your children and your children's children and they will have to bare the burden of your selfish act... They will have to live with the fact that the man/woman they believed to be good and true, was nothing but a snivelling little coward...  Because I believe in time there will be people like me, who show an interest in the case because it never added up.... And they will also want of expose the truth that lies behind the lies....  And at that point you can be proud of your legacy... That the one thing you left behind on this mortal soil, is that your children and your children's children will bare the shame of your lies....

And when they look at you think on.... Think on that this is always here.... And their innocence and belief in you will be destroyed... 

It may have been easier to admit your guilt... Maybe you did... Well its time for you to come forward and tell everyone the truth... And take the consequences like a man... In the vain hope your children's children will have some pride in you... Instead of them hiding away wondering when this will explode....  The truth will out.... And it should...

Is the Renault Megane Car yours?? Or do you drive a Volvo?? Was it you on Park Street??

I wonder what Joanna Yeates thinks about her killers?? I wonder what she would say to them today?? If she had a voice would she scream from the roof tops... That the killer is you!!

The circles I have been in at times I couldn't understand.... The why's and the wherefores... pecking at my head.. Always them not letting go.... I may be a slight different sort of person.... The Killer certainly is... But you will go down in history and for all the wrong reasons..... A legacy truly to behold!!


Edit...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueulF29EwX8