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Re: Forensics
« Reply #240 on: October 02, 2017, 03:39:19 PM »
If the disposition of the ground floor at 44 Canynge Road were different from the layout comprising two self-contained flats that the press has described, how can the journalists and the jurors live with themselves after visiting it themselves and then keeping silent about this big lie? A conspiracy between these people cannot completely be ruled out, but that would be even more mind-boggling than the extreme phoneyness of the trial itself.

There is something seriously weird about the large number of people who believe that Vincent Tabak killed Joanna Yeates. There is indeed a very remote possibility that he did so, but no one who isn't party to the cover-up can possibly know that, because the trial was such an unprecedented exercise in concealing the truth from an astonishingly gullible public. The fake chaplain confession, the fake testimony about the Schiphol interview, and the landlord who failed to tell the court about the mysterious persons he had seen to whom the police turned such a conspicuous blind eye, each separately and together PROVE that NOTHING about this death can be believed at all.

I can almost understand why the average Bristol citizen goes about his business without bothering too much, but I really cannot understand the mentality of anyone who comes on to this or any other forum, reads the facts to which the press has turned a blind eye, yet still goes on trying to argue that black is white, in flagrant disregard for the facts.

There is one small gleam of light on this otherwise gloomy day, namely an act of contrition (or atonement) on the part of the Gruniad for its sin of telling the world how all Lindsay Lennen ever wanted to do was to use DNA to put people behind bars:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/oct/02/dna-in-the-dock-how-flawed-techniques-send-innocent-people-to-prison
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Re: Forensics
« Reply #241 on: October 07, 2017, 09:01:31 PM »
Does anyone know what file 607 could relate to?? Noticed this filebox with this number upon it near the wall with the Intercom on it...

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Re: Forensics
« Reply #242 on: October 07, 2017, 09:24:46 PM »
If Joanna Yeates Sunglasses were supposed to be in her rucksack... why are they on the shelving unit just below the Intercom ??


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Re: Forensics
« Reply #243 on: October 08, 2017, 06:56:03 AM »
Does anyone know what file 607 could relate to?? Noticed this filebox with this number upon it near the wall with the Intercom on it...

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I was looking at Avon and Somerset Polices website... They are the ones who use these file types with the black ring pull.... And also have numbers upon these files boxes... These are used by The Major Crimes Unit at Avon and Somerset...

Which are from Cold Case Files....

So which cold case has the number 607 ??? or does the number refer to something else ???

Or was It correct when somebody told me that The Joanna Yeates case was a cold case ??? and that number 607 actually refers to Joanna Yeates or one of many unsolved cases

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https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/newsroom/features/teams-bid-to-unravel-forces-unsolved-rape-and-murder-cases/

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Re: Forensics
« Reply #244 on: October 11, 2017, 12:48:52 PM »
This Article is dated 1st January 2011

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Forensic officers tested the snow and ground in Longwood Lane for tyre tracks after Miss Yeates’s body was found.

So where was Joanna Yeates ???? This to me suggest that she wasn't where they said she was...

Tyre Tracks??? well that is not Longwood lane itself it has to be somewhere that no vehicles have been for a while..

And the only place i could suggest is "Durnford Quarry" or the Opening to the "Woods".. With all the parties that had taken place around the area .. They are the only two places that I wouldn't imagine a vehicle to be... But possibly the woods had been accessed since 17th December 2010... leaving "Durnford Quarry'"...

No evidence of tyre marks were brought to trial... Or ever mentioned, apart from this article I have found... The tyre marks must have been significant enough for them to take photographs to rule in or out a suspect.....

The Police and The Fire brigade spent along time in that area... we see the rope access guys there on the 27th December 2010, what were they recovering at that time ???  Was something dangling over the tunnel??

There is some blue rope?? Blue wire?? Lying on the ground just over the wall on the piece of land above the tunnel...

I pointed out what I thought were marks on the trees, but on closer inspection they look like notes, as in letters??


Image 2.... I have circled what appears to be an object?? Glove ?? Sock ???  I have also circled the note which appears to be written on...

The first 2 images come from a report by ITN news on 2nd January 2011... two question i have now... Why wasn't that area sealed off by the Police and why didn't they remove the object and  the note like things attached to the tree???



http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/landlord-released-on-bail-somerset-failand-longwood-lane-news-footage/655296004

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343233/Joanna-Yeates-murder-Landlord-Chris-Jefferies-Prof-Strange-quizzed-police.html#ixzz4vC6JN2yj

http://www.gettyimages.ca/license/688034660


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Re: Forensics
« Reply #245 on: October 13, 2017, 09:41:22 AM »
Every word that was made in The Police Press Conferences were carefully chosen. Every word that was imparted was crafted. Every word That DCI Phil Jones spoke had been meticulously constructed. This would ensure that if they were talking directly to the person whom had either killed Joanna Yeates or had knowledge of Joanna Yeates death, these words would hopefully prick their conscience ..

The avoidance of direct questions relating to what Joanna Yeates was wearing on the day she was found... Always telling us she was fully clothed.. No boots.... When asked about shoes DCI Phil Jones diverted the question... 

There had to be something significant with what Joanna Yeates was wearing for them to play cat and mouse games with the press... If she had the clothes on that she had been wearing on the night they say she disappeared and had worn to The Ram public house, then realistically, there shouldn't have been any problem with the Police describing her dressed condition on her discovery... Minus Her coat or not... Minus Boots.. Minus shoes...

They gave away lots of information in dribs and drabs... some information that really we shouldn't have found out about until the trial..(imo)

Things like Greg being away that weekend, That CJ helped start the car, that her coat, was left at the Flat,that there had been no forced entry, that there was 'No" sexual assault, yet they couldn't rule out a 'Sexual Motivation".. that she had been to various shops on route home and what purchases she had made... There was virtually nothing left out... Nothing new that you would have thought would smash this case when it did eventually come to trial... Because we were all too aware of the circumstances surrounding this Investigation...

Bu the Police do hold things back.. The Police have a way in which they know who that perpetrator is... Something that only the killer and the Police would know, something that would identify them from anyone else, that may make claims that they had committed this horrendous act...

But nothing new came to trial... In fact Nothing came to trial to support what some would say is Dr Vincent Tabak's confession... Nothing that had been withheld by the Police for this trial of great importance..

So I keep looking ..re-reading and possibly discovering the hidden truth...

From Channel 4 News at The Police Press conference DCI Phil Jones said:
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At a press conference earlier, DCI Phil Jones said: “When Jo was found on Christmas day morning she was fully clothed. She wasn’t wearing her jacket. She wasn’t wearing her boots and she was only wearing one sock.

An innocuous statement and no untruth... But It's what surrounds this innocuous statement that is really important.. It is what they are NOT saying that is really important...

She wasn't wearing "her" Jacket... that got me thinking... was she wearing someone elses Jacket?? Because "Fully Clothed" in my book means just that.. she had all the garments on you would expect on finding her in the winter months...

She wasn't wearing her Boots?? Later on in the Investigation we are told that she wasn't wearing shoes... But was she wearing trainers?? The images of the trainers in the hallway are there for a purpose, these very same trainers that moved position in a Flat that was a time capsule.... Just like the trainers that were found under the sink in 44, Canygne Road... Did Joanna Yeates have trainers on???

Joanna Yeates very well might have been missing a sock... But did she have tights on?? Women often wear tights under their clothing as an extra layer of protection against the cold.. I don't ever remember them saying that she had a bare foot... I think we presume.. because of the information we have been given....

Maybe it is more to do with what hadn't been said, And really that should be the case... Because there should always be something withheld from the public something that connects the Killer to The Crime and The Crime scene...

But there is Nothing new that connected Dr Vincent Tabak to this Crime... Nothing we didn't already know... And in my opinion..... There  should have been!

'The Sexual Motivation Angle need further Investigation (imo)... They managed to wangle a tall story from Dr Vincent Tabak at trial... But.. The 'Sexual Motivation" was spoken of well before we hear any cock and bull story coming from Dr Vincent Tabak mouth at his trial for the Murder of Joanna Yeates..

There had to be something that the Police were already aware of to suggest that this had been a 'Sexually Motivated Attack"... Wasn't that one of the reasons that ITN News were banned...  mark Williams Thomas queried that the Police had said that There was No Sexual Assault, yet they couldn't rule out a Sexual Motive... That describes motive... And the Police must have had a reason to believe that this was the motive.. They had to have some kind of evidence that would support this motive...

She was Fully Clothed... Her Jeans were not interfered with...  I know they say that her T- Shirt/Top was over her head.. But any Detective  might have come to the conclusion that the reason for this was that the killer knew Joanna Yeates and couldn't bare to look at her , or she stare back at them...

So why the "Sexual Motive" ??  What possible reason could the Police have to believe that there was a "Sexual Element to this case, as Mark William Thomas said in his Interview with ITV...

The Police didn't know about the apparent porn on Dr Vincent Tabak's laptop at this time... They didn't know that Joanna had nearly been kissed by Dr Vincent Tabak.. yet we  happily go along with the Polices idea that it was a 'Sexually Motivated attack....

Is it possible that the marks on Joanna Yeates neck were not allcaused from someone strangling her...
 Did the bruising that were clear to see look like a "love bite"???

Is this why they all believed that it was 'Sexually Motivated"...  They were leading Dr Vincent Tabak down the garden path....(imo).. Maybe they were afraid to mention this mark on her neck.. Hoping that the jury by looking at the photographs would come to that conclusion on their own... After The Prosecution made it clear that Dr Vincent Tabak's purpose was indeed a sexual one.... Did the Jury put two and two together and come up with five ???

That is why I believe the fact that Dr Vincent Tabak tried to Kiss Joanna Yeates is important...  Because a Love Bite is just a few steps on from a Kiss.....

A jury listening to The Prosecution pushing the Sexual Urges they say that motivated Dr Vincent Tabak... The judge on summing up, so sure in his own mind that 'This was a Sexually ' motivated assault... And then to put the final nail in Dr Vincent Tabak's coffin, The Porn is played out to the public as the guilty verdict is read out...

I couldn't I understand there insistence that it was "Sexually Motivated"... Or there was a 'Sexual Element " to this case without any signs of  a "Sexual Assault"..  But if i believe that a Love Bite was possibly on the neck of Joanna Yeates amongst the bruises.. Then YES... I can see how they would not rule out 'A Sexual Motive"... Even though it could have been possible that Joanna Yeates had Scratched herself in such a way to cause the marks ....


You can understand why The Yeates believed it was 'Sexually Motivated" if they were aware of such marks on her neck... Or any other part of her body.. And why they were horrified at the information we were given about what was purported to be on Dr Vincent Tabak's laptop....

So everyone was in on certain information about the death of Joanna Yeates, apart from Dr Vincent Tabak..(imo).. Because I never forget Ann Reddrop's insistence that this was indeed "MURDER" and "MANSLUGHTER" was never an option.. But the evidence in court didn't really prove "Murder" It didn't really prove anything... Apart from the fact a man stood up and said how things played out....And we all know that that didn't make sense...!!!

I think it's what we were not told that is important.. and what we were lead to believe is true... If Joanna Yeates did have a Love Bite on her neck, or another part of her body.. then Dr Vincent Tabak could not have killed her (imo).. He surely would remember such an action...

I have just had another thought... is this why they talk of saliva and DNA?? Because if someone gave Joanna Yeates a "Love Bite" Then it would be quite possible that their DNA was indeed left behind !!!!!



https://www.channel4.com/news/police-search-for-joanna-yeates-missing-socks

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Re: Forensics
« Reply #246 on: October 13, 2017, 01:50:46 PM »
20 seconds never seemed long enough to me to strangle someone.... It seemed far too short, I am no expert on the subject....  but I believe that Dr Carey said about Joanna Yeates died from stoppage of the heart...

I Want to suggest a possible outcome

The marks on Joanna Yeates neck, could quite easily be "Love Bites" aka (Hickeys).. The reddening of the skin, the bruise like appearance.. The sucking on the neck that can take some 20 seconds to cause these marks.. The pressure, light to moderate that would be needed for the marks to appear depending on the sensitivity of a person skin...

The area of the neck that these marks could be... They could be the size of fingers tips they could be the size of anything... Were these marks on Joanna Yeates neck 'Love Bites"???

Given a love bite may cause venous obstruction, it would depend were on the neck that this love bite was given...  Venous Obstruction as far as I am aware is a restriction of veins... So it would be quite possible that a Love bite would cause the restriction of veins.... Depending on the person giving these love bites and the technique that they use, if they were a little inexperienced....

It is extremely rare but it has happened that a love Bite has caused the death of someone, it has be known to cause blood clots that can stop the heart or give someone a stroke ....

So is it down to the interpretation of the marks on Joanna Yeates neck that we need to look at...???
I don't know... as I said it's a theory... But The lack of struggle present in Joanna Yeates Flat and the lack of any physical marks on Dr Vincent Tabak on the day the Police went to see him at his Flat... suggests to me that it is very possible that the Venous Obstruction, is what I am suggesting it is.....

Was this "Complex Investigation" meant to get Dr Vincent Tabak out of the way??  I don't know that either... But no-one has been clear on anything that they have said in this Investigation whatsoever....

The quotes below tell us it could be a possibility.....

When ever I look up Venous Obstruction I get info like this ...

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The scar tissue in the vein can cause either damage to the valves leading to backward flow or a blockage in the vein resulting in poor return of blood to the heart. The blockage in the veins is called chronic venous obstruction.
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Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
To determine if venous strangulation obstruction (VSO) of the distal half of the equine small intestine would increase length of that segment.

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This article is about blood clots in veins. If you want information on blood clots in arteries, which is a common cause of heart attack and stroke, see the topic on arterial thrombosis.

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Love bite horror as teen dies 'after girlfriend's hickey formed blood clot that travelled to brain causing stroke'

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4. Kiss aggressively, Use your tongue:
If you noticed that your partner is enjoying your kissing by her moaning, you should now start kissing more tightly, harder or aggressively. Use your tongue to lubricate the area. Now you need to understand that, while giving a hickey kiss, it is pertinent to know that your teeth are not involved and must also do away with excess spit as you don’t want to leave a slobber on your partner’s neck.

Suck gently on the spot for 20-30 seconds which is long enough for the capillaries on the skin to break and thus, appear the hickey mark.

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Dr Carey told the jury it is always "surprising" how quickly compression of the neck can cause people to pass out or even die.

He said it was likely Miss Yeates probably died from "stoppage of the heart".

The court was told the neck has blood pressure receptors that, when pressed, can tell the heart that blood pressure is too high, slowing or stopping the heart.

So I am I correct in my theory?? i don't know .. we don't have the photographs of Joanna Yeates to see if this happened...

But we have 2 Dr's giving very short testimony on how Joanna Yeates came to die, testimony that was never challenged ....
Was Joanna Yeates death an accident??

I had originally suggested that, but more about play fighting, Love Bites had never entered my mind... but today they have ...

Please remember this is only a theory, before wading in... I don't know if this is correct..

Edit.. Therefore sucking on the neck to cause this venous obstruction, would make this case 'Sexual"...
Just a thought....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/love-bite-horror-teen-dies-8718037

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/thrombosis/pages/introduction.aspx

https://vein.stonybrookmedicine.edu/disease/chronic-venous-obstruction

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11340552

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tabaks-panic-dumping-joannas-body-101510489.html

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Re: Forensics
« Reply #247 on: October 13, 2017, 05:56:05 PM »
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2:13 PM - 21 Oct 2011Twitter
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There were no such injuries on Joanna's body.

http://live-news.sky.com/Event/Live_Updates_Tabak_Cross-Examination?Page=2

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« Reply #248 on: October 15, 2017, 02:12:13 PM »
Forensics scandal now hits TEN THOUSAND cases: Rogue scientists may have tampered with blood tests in suspect cases including murder and rape

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Rogue scientists may have tampered with forensic evidence in more than 10,000 cases – raising fears that innocent people could languish in jail for up to another five years after being falsely convicted for serious crimes, including rape and murder.
Experts are now painstakingly going back over the vast number of blood tests that it is feared have been doctored by employees at Randox Testing Services.
The full extent of the scandal is vastly greater than the 484 cases originally claimed by police in February when The Mail on Sunday exclusively revealed how evidence had been manipulated.
Up to a quarter of the affected samples were used in trials for serious crimes such as rape and murder.


Because there are only a dozen experts in the country who are qualified to check the blood samples, it could take up to five years for all of the falsified data to be sifted through and for miscarriages of justice to be rectified by the courts.
Already, important police investigations, trials and inquests, including the investigation into the death of former Premier League footballer Dalian Atkinson, have been delayed because critical evidence provided by Randox cannot be relied upon.

Shocking article .....

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Because there are only a dozen experts in the country who are qualified to check the blood samples,

Wonder who those dozen qualified people are ? Does anyone we know of fit the bill?

Does that mean that when Blood Samples that were apparently in Dr Vincent Tabak's car were supposed to have been tested, that they need to be tested by one of these 12 qualified people ???

Tanja Nickson Blood Analyst??


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4980962/Forensics-scandal-hits-10-000-cases.html#ixzz4va6pXSiG

Yes back to THAT Car... Why did everyone just accept that the Blood apparently found on the seal of the boot of Tanja Morsons car, was deposited there by Dr Vincent Tabak...

I'm not convinced on this apparent blood sample, but for arguments sake lets say it was there... Then how can he be held accountable when he wasn't the only person to have access to that vehicle ???

They went away at Christmas... I presume they put luggage in the boot... What if there was some blood on the outside of Canygne Road, a minute spot could easily be transferred ....

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Re: Forensics
« Reply #249 on: October 16, 2017, 03:55:37 PM »
Forensics scandal now hits TEN THOUSAND cases: Rogue scientists may have tampered with blood tests in suspect cases including murder and rape

Shocking article .....

Wonder who those dozen qualified people are ? Does anyone we know of fit the bill?

Does that mean that when Blood Samples that were apparently in Dr Vincent Tabak's car were supposed to have been tested, that they need to be tested by one of these 12 qualified people ???

Tanja Nickson Blood Analyst??


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4980962/Forensics-scandal-hits-10-000-cases.html#ixzz4va6pXSiG

Yes back to THAT Car... Why did everyone just accept that the Blood apparently found on the seal of the boot of Tanja Morsons car, was deposited there by Dr Vincent Tabak...

I'm not convinced on this apparent blood sample, but for arguments sake lets say it was there... Then how can he be held accountable when he wasn't the only person to have access to that vehicle ???

They went away at Christmas... I presume they put luggage in the boot... What if there was some blood on the outside of Canygne Road, a minute spot could easily be transferred ....
This is very likely, as Bernard the ?kitten would get blood from Joanna on his paws each time she played with him through small scratches he made in her skin. This blood could be transferred to the ground where Vincent and Tanja would place their luggage in the course of loading their car for their trip to Holland.

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Re: Forensics
« Reply #250 on: October 18, 2017, 08:35:59 PM »
"Worried" I don't think that I've ever read that Joanna felt worried, lonely yes, first time without Greg yes, but not worried.



This report says that she was dreading being on her own at the weekend while Greg was away....

Start at about 45 seconds into video...

https://www.musicjinni.com/aZ09umz0SDK/Jo-Yeates-was-nervous.html


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Re: Forensics
« Reply #251 on: October 25, 2017, 04:53:08 PM »

This report says that she was dreading being on her own at the weekend while Greg was away....

Start at about 45 seconds into video...

https://www.musicjinni.com/aZ09umz0SDK/Jo-Yeates-was-nervous.html
The only colleague from the Ram to testify in person was Darragh Bellew, and it is what he left out that is most interesting. The word "dreading" comes from a witness statement from another colleague that was read out in court, so it is hearsay even though the TV journalist took it as gospel. It was obvious that Joanna was careful to spread her remarks wide, so that her colleagues would have no inkling what she really did plan for the weekend - or whether she even planned at all. "Fun things" was the phrase Greg was to use afterwards.

The press and the public speculated at the time whether Joanna was up to something Greg wouldn't have approved of, such as buying expensive boots lined with real fur. It occurred to me at the time that he may have paid a visit that weekend to an old flame of his own in Manchester or Derbyshire - and Joanna knew or guessed - but there is no actual evidence to support this - except that it was obvious to everyone that the public were not getting the whole story. It obviously wouldn't suit the police to reveal anything that might detract from Rebecca Scott's insistence at the time that the couple were "the real deal", as they were busy insisting that Greg wasn't a suspect - even though he was in the eyes of the press and the public.

Since they dismissed Greg as a possible perpetrator within 3 days of the setting up of Operation Braid (and 3 days before finding Joanna dead), the police and the CPS must already have decided that CJ, VT, and/or someone else WERE suspects/WAS a suspect.

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« Reply #252 on: January 04, 2018, 05:26:57 PM »
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15.5.6. Expert Witness: Police computer analyst
The female police analyst was in the witness box from 10.30 am to before noon on 19
October 2011.
The police analyst gave evidence on Wednesday 19 October and claimed that the
following (partly set out below in blue) is the result of her analysis of the metadata from
Buro Happold’s computers and Tabak’s laptops at Flat 2. Prosecuting counsel related to
the witness and she confirmed that her analysis shows that Tabak researched ‘police’,
‘missing persons’, ‘recycling’, etc.
The jury were told that some webpages couldn’t now be recovered as they had been
changed but that some webpages had not changed, and so the prosecution showed films of
some pages that had not been changed.
The jury looked at pages that have not been changed, allegedly (as the defence did not
dispute (by defence forensic analysis or otherwise) any of the police computer evidence
whatsoever. Defence lawyers did not even attempt to show that metadata cannot be
preserved and thus such electronic evidence may be partly unreliable. The prosecution
evidence was bounded into a huge volume of A3 width and one wonders whether it was
lack of Legal Aid funding that prohibited the defence team from challenging this evidence.
According to the expert police computer analyst and as tabulated in he prosecution’s thick
A3 booklet of a timeline of 566 events, Dr Tabak went to the computer and created the
following Prosecution Internet evidence:


The 566 Timeline of events.... The Timeline that may reveal more than we have realised....

I'll start at this timeline as it is dated...

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At Line 340 of the prosecution chart
Tabak Googled on 26 Dec 2010
‘Yeates’
At 3.00 pm he search the Telegraph Newspaper online
At 3:43 pm he searched online global newspapers
At 3.45 pm he searched the words
‘Suspension bridge police footage’
At Line 347 of the prosecution chart
 Tabak searched Google maps for
‘maps to Longwood lane’
‘Mirror newspaper website’
‘BBC news’
‘alcohol –police limits’ 

We know that Dr Vincent Tabak is in Holland at the time of these searches..... We don't know whether or not he took a laptop with him... But i don't think it matters ...

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At Line 372 of the prosecution chart
Tabak Googled the words
‘BCC household rubbish collections’
 At Line 376 of the prosecution chart
Tabak’s research was categorised by the police analyst into ‘
‘Google’
‘forensic’
‘location

It is Timeline 376 that is important... I have looked at it many times and not realised the significance of this timeline... Firstly it isn't a search timeline.... which it should be... But more importantly i believe it is what it represents....

I believe that this analysis of the laptop/computer that our perfect power point pointer did, was done before Dr Vincent Tabak was arrested... I believe that this was the evidence that they originally had....  I believe they were already analysing a laptop/computer before January 2011... 

There is no real searches in January if we look at the Timeline...  And quite frankly there should be dozens.... I also suggest that various searches were added, the ones being in January... Because NO-one unless they happened to be in the Police department would know about the Note and the Pizza before it was released to the press...

There is nothing significant in the searches after timeline 376... nothing a lay person would know to search for....

I truly believe that the work done on the "laptops" was done before the 5th January 2011... well before that time... 

Someone was planning the "Dutchmans demise" well in advance, the searches indicate that to be true...  This is why they have the early search when Dr Vincent Tabak was in the Centre of bristol on the searches....

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At Line 118 of the prosecution chart
Tabak accessed the Internet and performed some Google searches
On 18 Dec 2010, Tabak searched at
1.26 am- ‘BBC news’ and ‘weather forecast’
1.46 am- ‘weather forecast’
1.47 am- ‘BBC Bristol news’

He was never at home.... He never made the search.... And Just like Timeline 376, they have nothing to do with Dr Vincent Tabak....

Remember they have released CJ by the 2nd January 2011...  There are NO references to the landlord within the searches and there should be if they are Dr Vincent Tabak's.... So I would suggest that the searches belong to the person who believed CJ was Innocent, but wanted to implicate the Dutchman for what ever reason....

There should be plenty of Dutch in these searches and there isn't....  So the question has to be... who's laptops did the Police have before Dr Vincent Tabak was arrested... ??

Timeline 376 tells us that the information was already part of the prosecutions information and that they had already made up this Timeline of events before they even arrested Dr Vincent Tabak...(imo)..

It's the other "Timelines" that were added at a later date... (imo) or else you wouldn't have an entry about the Police catergorising the searches into.. "Forensics" "Google" and "Wiki"... I believe that was where the searches stopped originally...  I also think it is extremely possible this was when the Police went to Ann Reddrop for her advice, because they would have needed some kind of evidence they believe pointed to a suspect...

But we know there must have been a problem... as Dr Vincent Tabak hadn't apparently come to their attention....

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At Line 382 of the prosecution chart
Tabak Googled
‘Yeates pizza’
‘Avon police seize rubbish’
‘Yeates
‘Sky news images’
‘Yeates’
‘police’

Now this entry has to be the 4th January 2011, now Dr Vincent Tabak could not know if it was of any significance... and as he had apparently taken the "Pizza and Box with him along with the sock... he would not have done this search....

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They seized the bin at Yeates's flat on 20 December but did not take the bins from the rest of the street until 23 December.
Only the person whom had been at Joanna yeates Flat would know if there was anything significant about Joanna Yeates 'own" bin being seized, it would not be of any importance to Dr Vincent Tabak....


So I believe that , that particular search belongs to the real killer of Joanna Yeates and not Dr Vincent Tabak.... that search and the rest belong to someone that the Police questioned and searched their laptops/computers, because there is no other way (imo) that the timelines could be done so early on, giving our Computer analysis the opportunity, to put her own Timeline in between the list of 'timeline " searches....



http://www.criminal-lawyer.org.uk/39-CLN-JAN-2012.pdf

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jan/04/joanna-yeates-police-questions-investigation


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« Reply #253 on: January 04, 2018, 05:35:43 PM »
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They seized the bin at Yeates's flat on 20 December but did not take the bins from the rest of the street until 23 December.

What was significant as early as the 20th December 2010 for the Police to seize Joanna Yeates bin from her Flat??? The 20th December 2010 is the day that Joanna Yeates is reported "Missing".. why would the Police feel the need to seize her bin?? What was it about this "BIN" that they felt the need to take  it away...

We as the public are told that she is just a "Missing Person"... But that cannot be true.. their need to start seizing items from the Flat on the day she is reported "Missing".. tells us that they suspected fowl play immediately...

No-one knew about the "Pizza" on this date...  No one knew anything....  And why would the Police think that the "Pizza" is significant so early on when they didn't know whether or not Joanna Yeates had actually eaten this Pizza??

They apparently had no idea when she left her Flat... she could have taken it elsewhere....

They only have the information that The Yeates family and her boyfriend have told them at this point... and a receipt for the "Pizza".. they have NO reason to believe that she had come to harm and hadn't visited someone on that weekend by the 20th December 2010... So what did the Police believe had happened to Joanna Yeates by the 20th December 2010 for them to seize her bin from her Flat??

Now that is the big question !!!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jan/04/joanna-yeates-police-questions-investigation


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« Reply #254 on: January 04, 2018, 06:49:41 PM »
I thought I remembered seeing Joanna Yeates bin in her Flat... What did the Police do ???? Put it back ???? why is the bin there if it was reported that it had been seized??

From the video clip at 23 seconds, you can clearly see a kitchen bin in the kitchen...  The bathroom bin is also still in the Flat...  So which BIN did the Police seize????


Image (1): Kitchen Bin

Image (2): Bathroom Bin

Image (3): Big communal Bin

The bins for the whole house were communal, So which BINS are we left with??? Bedroom Bin??? What was in Joanna Yeates bedroom Bin for the Police to seize it????  Now that definitely has nothing to do with Dr Vincent Tabak!!!!


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They seized the bin at Yeates's flat on 20 December but did not take the bins from the rest of the street until 23 December.

It makes us believe that it is connected to the Pizza.... But is it ????? Or was there something else in The Bin they seized!!

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/vincent-tabak-trial-jury-visits-flat-england-bristol-news-footage/656441704

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