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Now I do not know why it hasn't dawned on me before... But it stares us in the face.....

Where is the evidence that they lifted any prints from the bathroom or kitchen in Flat 1 in which Joanna yeates was supposed to have lived???

Surely there would be gaps in the black dust where these finger prints were lifted ?????

I'm no expert... But.....!!

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How did Joanna yeates let Dr Vincent Tabak into the Flat??

According to the trial... Joannna Yeates and Dr Vincent Tabak saw each other at the kitchen window, she waved to beckon him to come in..... Then what??

She needs to go from the kitchen to the front door.... And.......
Lets him in??

Now that is not possible.... 

There are TWO locks between Joanna Yeates and Dr Vincent Tabak and that would take some thought about letting a total stranger into ones home on a night you're worried about being left alone...

There are two options as to how the door was opened....

Firstly Joanna Yeates would have need to go into the Front Room and release the door lock with the Intercom.... Then go back to the front door and release the Yale lock to let Dr Vincent Tabak into her home....

Alternatively... she used her keys, which would then suggest that they were available to her somewhere easy to access..

From The Defence....

He left his flat; was walking towards his car and went past her kitchen window.
The kitchen blind was broken and so stayed up all the time, as Greg Reardon had confirmed.
She beckoned to him to come in.

Joanna invited Vincent in, as all the evidence indicated.

She had opened the door and invited him in.
He took off his coat.
He hung it on her coat rack.

It sounds quite straight forward.... Quick wave at the window then straight to the door and open it and he is in the Hallway.....

Yet it isn't straight forward....  Joanna Yeates either has to return to the living room to release the second lock via the intercom or she needs to use her keys to unlock the door....

My question is... If Joanna Yeates had unlocked the door with her keys... who then returned her keys to her Rucksack???

There has never been any question at trial in relation to the Flat keys and Dr Vincent Tabak... He isn't asked about them...

Now if Joanna Yeates used the keys to let Dr Vincent Tabak inside the Flat, it is more than likely that they were still in the second lock, as Joanna Yeates would need to open the door again to let Dr Vincent Tabak leave....

But as we know Joanna Yeates keys were found in her Rucksack on the dining room table, apparently... begging the question , who put the keys in the Rucksack???

So we have to question also How Dr Vincent Tabak opened Joanna Yeates front door to take her apparently around to his Flat??

Vincent Tabak said: ‘She fell to the floor. I
was in a state of panic, shock. I still can’t understand what happened.’ Dr Tabak said all this
happened in the kitchen. He said that he then carried Miss Yeates’s body into the bedroom, where
he placed it on the bed, then carried her into his own flat. He said he then returned to Flat 1,

The events almost seem plausible... Yet vital information is MISSING!!

How did Dr Vincent Tabak open Joanna Yeates front door in the first place??  There is no mention of how he managed to do this..... Did he use the Intercom to release the second lock?? Did he use Joanna yeates keys to open the door... Where Joanna yeates keys still in the lock???

The Defence Nor The Prosecution, explain how it was possible for Dr Vincent Tabak to negotiate Joanna yeates front door....

The Defence will have us believe that Dr Vincent Tabak just left the door on the latch.....

The Defence.....

Again he told lie after lie and you will hear no excuse from me about that. It shows a very calculating
person trying to wriggle out of her death but it does not help in thinking of what happened at the
flat….
He went to his flat and left Joanna’s flat door on the latch.
He returned.
He turned off the oven that she had turned on.
He took the Tesco pizza that was in the kitchen.
He carried the body from her flat to his flat.

Now the latch theory doesn't hold water, as we still have the issue with the second lock.... How did Dr Vincent Tabak open the front door of Joanna Yeates Flat in the first place to be able to leave it on the latch???

He obviously didn't use the Intercom...  as this Intercom would have finger print dust all over it... so that to me suggest that both he and Joanna Yeates had to use the keys to open the Front Door of Flat 1....
And the Police obviously knew something about whoever had attacked Joanna yeates, not to bother even finger print The Intercom...


We still have the Question of.. How did Joanna Yeates Flat keys end up inside her Rucksack on the dining room table????

Dr Vincent Tabak doesn't say he returned Joanna Yeates keys to the Rucksack on the dining room table... Dr Vincent Tabak never mentions keys....

No-body appears to have questioned this IMPOSSIBILITY..... Joanna Yeates didn't put them there after the event...... Dr Vincent Tabak couldn't have put them there or the Defence would have said he used the keys so would The Prosecution...... And if he never had possesion of the Flat keys.. How was Dr Vincent Tabak supposed to be the Killer of Joanna Yeates ???

The issue with the keys lends to the fact that someone else needed keys (imo)... Because if they didn't have keys,they too would have the same issue as Dr Vincent Tabak of exiting the Flat without using the keys or the Intercom... And I believe that this was part of the reason why they initially arrested CJ.... They knew that keys were needed to be used to enter and exit The Flat....


So....Why didn't the Police look elsewhere ???

How many sets of keys were there to Joanna Yeates Flat ??

And why on earth did The Defence not Point this obvious problem out!!!

Edit.... So we are left with two possibilities.... Someone who also had access to the keys to the Flat murdered Joanna Yeates there..... Or she was killed elsewhere and not at the Flat... with someone returning her items....But that still leaving the issue of of needing the keys to enter and exit the Flat..... Meaning (imo) Dr Vincent Tabak could not have committed this crime !

Double Edit... If Dr Vincent Tabak had used the Intercom... Then why was there no evidence brought to trial, to show that a finger print/ palm print was on this Intercom... And why is The Intercom NEVER mentioned at Trial???


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Now early reports of where Joanna yeates was located differed.... But I want to go back to this location....



Now the reason I have come back to this is because of The little news clips I found.... On the 27th December 2010, we have the rope access guys, and looking carefully at the video you can see them climb the fence in that area just by the trees....

Image (1): shows a yellow helmet appearing

Image (2): shows a rope access guy climbing over the fence between the vehicles to the right of the Police Officer...

Image (3): Clearly see him climbing over the fence and his yellow hat..

Image (4): The Police and Forensics initially standing in that area on the 25th December 2010

Image (5) From the mail..

Image (6): The Rope access guy is carrying a metal rod of some description... (what is it??)
I have added a close up of this object..



If you watch the clip and keep an eye to the right of the Policeman.. you can see the two Rope Access guys emerge...

You can see the yellow Helmet starting from 57 seconds....

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Do we still all believe that Joanna Yeates was next to that wall on Longwood Lane where they told the Jury she was ?? Because I never have...!!

Edit I believe that is a scythe....   Now why are the rope access guys needing a scythe, when Joanna Yeates was apparently found further up the road..  What was in that area that they were trying to retrieve??  Nothing from Longwood lane came to trial! And according to the trial testimony Joanna Yeates was just dumped on the grass verge near the wall ....

Image (7): The scythe raised up...

Again, if the location differs to where the trial said she was found, then it cannot have been Dr Vincent Tabak!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1341676/Missing-architect-Joanna-Yeates-We-assume-shes-dead--lives-gone-say-parents.html

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From this video clip... (transcript)

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Every day for two weeks the Police have searched the Landscape Architects Flat and today they were back again. If the evidence exists, it's proving difficult to find. The Police admit the Murder Investigation is complex, yet criminologist mark Williams Thomas believes breaking it down into three elements.

Why would they need to search the tiny Flat for 2 weeks???  I believe it is more to do with display than evidence collecting, what possible evidence could they find 2 weeks on after searching everyday??

So they started there search on the 20th December 2010... we know that they removed Joanna yeates bin on the 20th December 2010...

Why, are we Forensically searching this Flat when Joanna yeates was supposed to be a "Missing" person.. and "NO" evidence at the Flat suggested a struggle.. DS Mark Saunders, appealed for information about her whereabouts on the 22nd December 2010.. They lead the public to believe that she was a "Missing" person and that they wanted the publics help...

They knew that she was a "Murder" victim from day one... They behaved as If she was a Murder Victim from day one...  Dr Vincent Tabak could not have given them any indication so early on in the Investigation...  Why did the Police and Greg Reardon go to Dr Vincent Tabak's door on the morning of the 20th December 2010.. when they didn't go to Geoffrey Hardymans Flat??
CJ being the person to inform Mr Hardyman...

Mr Hardyman had supplied the legal defence lawyers with a statement which was read
out at Vincent Tabak’s trial by a defence barrister. Mr Hardyman stated that he was in bed with a
cold on that Friday evening of 17 December 2010 and (in contrast to the two persons who told
police that they had heard screams coming from the property on the Friday night, 17 December
2010) Mr Hardyman stated that heard nothing all that weekend and did not learn that Joanna Yeates
had been reported as missing until Christopher Jefferies had told him about it on Monday 20
December 2010.

The Polices behaviour seems at odds... Why would you immediately assume that the Flat next door had a connection to Joanna Yeates being Missing... without any evidence to support this within an hour of arriving at the scene??

You either have Dr Vincent Tabak and Joanna Yeates knowing each other for there to be an incline of reason to go to Dr Vincent Tabak house.. Or the basement Flats are communal in some way.... either of those possibilities didn't come to trial... So why were the Police knocking on Dr Vincent Tabak's door in the early hours of Monday the 20th December 2010??

And what was it about the information they had that determined them to treat this as a "Murder Inquiry" on the same day she was reported "Missing"!!

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Photographs were shown of Yeates lying in a foetal position on Longwood Lane, her body covered in snow and leaves. The prosecution alleges Tabak tried to throw the body over the quarry wall but then concealed it beneath a pile of leaves.

And.....

More pictures of the body were taken at a nearby mortuary. Yeates was still in a foetal position, her pink top pulled up to just under her shoulders. Her grey bra was visible as was part of her left breast.

Yeates's nose was bloodstained and a red-tinged icicle hung from it. Her eyes were puffy and red and there was bruising on her forehead, behind her ear and under her eyelids. Her cheeks and neck were also bruised. She had an abrasion on her lip and red bruises on her chin. Her blond hair was bloodstained.

Yeates's nose was bloodstained and a red-tinged icicle hung from it. Her eyes were puffy and red and there was bruising on her forehead, behind her ear and under her eyelids. Her cheeks and neck were also bruised. She had an abrasion on her lip and red bruises on her chin. Her blond hair was bloodstained.

At trial Dr Vincent Tabak says he believed that Joanna Yeates was dead.... Well to me the description of...

(A): being in a foetal position

(B): A red tinged icicle hung from her nose

Tells me that she was still alive.. Of course I am no expert, But blood doesn't run when someone is dead...  The fact that her hair was also stained with blood indicates she must still have been alive when she was either kept somewhere or place on Longwood Lane...

There was NO Blood EVIDENCE at Joanna Yeates Flat... From which Joanna Yeates would surely be lying down with blood leaving her body... For it to have got in her hair...

Dr Vincent Tabak never mentions any blood in the Bicycle cover.... Surely if Joanna Yeates had been bleeding then this cover would have had plenty of blood on it... But the Prosecution doe not question where all the blood is.... The Defence do not mention this either as fair as I am aware....

But logic dictates that she must have still been alive... (imo).. And had put herself into the foetal position .... `To protect herself... Either from the injuries or the cold ....

There may have been signs of Compression of the neck... But I believe that heart failure was the cause of her death...

In Tabak's defence, Bill Clegg QC said Miss Yeates did not die of strangulation, but of heart failure.

"The obstruction of Joanna's airwaves caused oxygen starvation that in turn caused heart failure," Clegg told the jury.

Clegg also told the jury that the death of Yeates happened in "a few seconds of madness."

The statement by Clegg doesn't make sense.... 

Between 30-180 seconds of oxygen deprivation, you may lose consciousness.
At the one-minute mark, brain cells begin dying.
At three minutes, neurons suffer more extensive damage, and lasting brain damage becomes more likely.
At five minutes, death becomes imminent.
At 10 minutes, even if the brain remains alive, a coma and lasting brain damage are almost inevitable.
At 15 minutes, survival becomes nearly impossible.

Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to have killed Joanna Yeates in less than 20 seconds, by compression of the neck... That doesn't explain any of the other Injuries that she sustained...

If he has one had behind her back and one around her neck.. where did the other Injuries come from....

* Nose
* Lip
* Head
* Forehead
* Cheeks
* Chin
* Both sides of her head
* Behind ear
* Wrists

The judge reminded the jury of the 43 injuries found on Yeates when her body was discovered in a mound of snow on Christmas Day last year. He suggested the jurors focus on a series of bruises as they could only have been caused in life. He also highlighted the finding that she had injuries to both sides of her head.

Home Office pathologist Russell Delaney said some of the injuries must have been suffered while Yeates was alive. He said: "Bruising only occurs when the heart is beating, so the injuries occurred during life."

So where did all the Injuries come from If Dr Vincent Tabak had killed her by holding her neck for 20 seconds??

Her eyes were puffy and red

Does that describe strangulation??

Sounds more like she had been crying to me...

Did Dr Delaney ever say that there was "Petechial Hemorrhaging"/Subconjunctival Haemorrhaging what about the whites of Joanna yeates eyes???

A subconjunctival haemorrhage is a
bleeding underneath the conjunctiva, the
transparent layer which lies over the white
of the eye, called the sclera. This bleeding
is caused by the leaking of a blood vessel
in the conjunctiva.

Purple bruising above Miss Yeates's right eye and a graze on her cheek were found by Dr Delaney, the court heard.
Injuries on her nose and lip were also suffered while Miss Yeates was still alive, he said.
Dr Delaney said: "Bruising only occurs when the heart is beating - so the injuries occurred during life."
Haemorrhages were noted by Dr Delaney on her eyelids and face.
"The particular haemorrhages in the skin, face and eyelids are signs there has been venous obstruction in the head and neck," Dr Delaney said.

Dr Delaney only says eyelids... what happened to the Whites of her eyes... What about under her eyes lids??

There is so much Missing from the description of Injuries by the medical experts...

Why is it all so evasive??

Dr Delaney will has us believe through the Prosecution and Defence, that in 20 seconds, Joanna Yeates received 43 Injuries whilst being strangled and her heart had stopped.... Well her heart couldn't have stopped whilst she received the Injuries... So at what point did Joanna Yeates heart stop??  And how did the Injuries occur??


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/killer-weeps-over-images-of-joanna-yeates-body-2370602.html

https://www.moorfields.nhs.uk/sites/default/files/a-e-subconjunctival-haemorrhage.pdf

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/vincent-tabak-jo-yeates-joanna-yeates-trail-murder-investigation-court-case-walked-away-any-time-sto-237256

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/14/joanna-yeates-body-dog-walker

https://www.spinalcord.com/blog/what-happens-after-a-lack-of-oxygen-to-the-brain

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/26/joanna-yeates-vincent-tabak-jury

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"I would have expected this death to be a dynamic incident and as such it is not possible to determine the respective positions of Joanna and her assailant.

Why couldn't Dr Delaney as a Forensic pathologist determine what positions Joanna Yeates and her assailant were in at the time of the attack?

Surely it would be part of the examination to know where each person was standing when finger prints on Joanna Yeates neck would indicate if someone was behind her or in front of her....

Isn't that part of a Forensic Pathologists job to find out the position of the assailant and the victim? wouldn't that knowledge add to what happened during an attack???

Wouldn't you need to know if the victim's back was to the assailant and was trying to run away.. or the victim was looking the assailant squarely in the eyes..

 I am astounded that Dr Delaney couldn't be more precise as to the position of Joanna Yeates whilst she was being attacked... Or whether there had to be more than one assailant involved in the attack, seeing as there were grab marks on both wrists....

I don't understand!



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The jury heard that leaves found on the victim's body had been placed there and compressed against her, according to forensic archaeologist Dr Karl Harrison.

Dr Tanya Nickson, who analysed blood found on a wall beside Miss Yeates, said she believed an attempt had been made to deposit her body in a quarry.

Forensic scientist Lindsay Lennen revealed she had detected DNA from Tabak on Miss Yeates' chest and jeans as well as DNA from her in the boot of his car.

Forensic Archaeologist..

Forensic Archaeology
A forensic archaeologist’s first involvement may be to help the police locate the site where a body and victim’s personal items, or stolen goods are buried, through geological and geophysical surveying techniques, as well as using imaging and photography.
The forensic archaeologist may also help with the excavation, using similar tools and expertise to those used at an archaeological dig. This has to be done slowly and painstakingly, and the archaeologists will record and preserve anything found at every stage and depth (for example paint flakes, hair, clothing or DNA) as it may be vital evidence. The colour and state of the soil may be useful in the investigation.

Evidence from forensic archaeologists about how materials degrade or decompose over time and in specific conditions is important, as this can help determine, for example, how long a body has been buried by the state of the clothes or the surrounding soil, or how long stolen goods have been buried by the subsequent damage to metal and other materials.

What was Dr Karl Harrison doing on Longwood Lane if Joanna Yeates body was in a frozen state and had not decomposed???

Attached image.... is this Dr Karl harrison?? This is from the video linked... On the 26th December 2010... Now if that is Dr Karl Harrison with possibly Lyndsay Lennen or Tanja Nixon, then when was Joanna Yeates body removed from the scene?? This clip was taken on the 26th December 2010....

I do not understand the reason for a Forensic Archaeologist being at the scene, If his job is to find buried items...

FORENSIC ARCHAEOLOGY
Forensic archaeology is the application of archaeology (the study of past cultures and activities) to legal investigations. The skills and methods used by archaeologists to find and interpret buried or hidden sites of past activity have direct application to modern forensic investigations. In North America, forensic archaeology is often considered to be a specialization of forensic anthropology.

So was Joanna Yeates buried?? And I don't mean under a pile of leaves...

A forensic archaeologist is typically called when human remains are found scattered on the ground surface and/or remains are suspected to be buried.

So... why was Dr Karl Harrisons expertise needed ???

Karl Harrison is a forensic archaeologist. He’s trained to find, excavate and recover human remains under the most challenging and often harrowing of circumstances.

edit.. If it is not Karl Harrison in image 2... Is it Dr Delaney????


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https://news.sky.com/story/killer-confessed-to-chaplain-10484853

http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/forensic-archaeology.html

http://www.sfu.museum/forensics/eng/pg_media-media_pg/archaeologie-archaeology/

https://digventures.com/2015/05/my-life-in-objects-karl-harrison-forensic-archaeologist/


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This is a quote from a blog about the case... and I will as suggest that they did attend the scene on "Boxing Day" But I will also add that we do not know for an absolute fact, that Joanna Yeates was removed Christmas Day... Was she still there ???

Dr. Karl Harrison, who is also described as a forensic archaeologist. Tania Nickson’s professional qualifications are unclear, as is her relationship to LGC Forensics at the time of this investigation. She seems to have subsequently become a member of the staff of the School of Defence & Security, Cranfield University, Shrivenham. There is strong support for the proposition that she did not attend the crime scene until Boxing Day. If this were the case, then she could not have seen the body itself lying on the grass verge of Longwood Lane.

We have this quote that makes us believe that this happened on Christmas Day at the Mortuary.. But did it??

Dr Delaney performed the first examination at 6pm on the day her body was found.

Dr Delaney was at Longwood Lane, so that could have been his initial examination... We are only informed that an ambulance took her to The Mortuary on the 25th December 2010. The link below has Dr Delaney at the scene for 4 hours..

Dr Delaney said care was taken to minimise any disruption to potential
evidence as her body was lifted. Two yellow webbing straps were fed under
her calves and lower back — using a broom handle to get them underneath.

She was then lifted by one officer, supported by a second behind him, and
placed on an open white body bag atop an orange stretcher by the roadside.

From there she was taken the couple of miles to the public mortuary at Flax
Bourton where Dr Delaney began his initial post mortem at 6pm.

It only states that Joanna Yeates was taken to the Mortuary... It really is interpretation (imo)..  It is extremely possible that... Dr Delaney examined her at the scene on the 25th December 2010... I cannot see that he wouldn't be making a quick assessment at that time... The activity at the scene suggested it was a "Murder". Everyone assumed that it was.... If Dr Delaney had arrived at the scene at 12:00pm, he would have seen what condition Joanna Yeates was in.. and would have been able to see the marks on her neck at that time...

He was there whilst she was removed from an area we really do not know much about, and placed onto a board... She quite possibly could have been still at the scene... There was a Forensic tent at the entrance of The Quarry...

We have two statement... she was moved at the scene onto a board and Dr Delaney had preformed his first examination there.. And she is at The Mortuary at 6:00pm

Well 6:00pm could easily be Boxing Day...  Just because an ambulance turns up doesn't mean that Joanna Yeates was in it....

We had the Fire Brigade there... There presence was never explained.... So why should we just assume that Joanna Yeates was actually taken to the mortuary on Christmas day????

Does Dr Delaney in his testimony state, that he examined Joanna Yeates at the Mortuary at 6:00pm on Christmas Day???

Forensic pathologist Dr Russell Delaney said he was summoned to the scene just
after midday and stayed for four hours until Jo’s body was removed in a
painstaking operation.

He was summoned at midday.... and stayed for 4 hours.... what time did he actually arrive??? He was there when they removed her body...  He could have arrived at 2:00pm making it 6:00pm when he saw her on the stretcher... we do not know!!

So we actually need the testimony to state that he arrived at the scene and at what time he arrived at the scene and whether or not Joanna Yeates was still on Longwood Lane on Boxing Day....!! because it is a strong possibility that she was... making more sense of Dr Karl Harrison, and Tania Nixons testimony... I believe they too were there on Boxing Day!! (imo)

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8057.msg416792;topicseen#msg416792

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/840925/jury-see-photos-of-jo-yeates-body/

http://vincent-tabak-is-innocent.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/dna-merchants.html

Edit.... There is no evidence that Dr Delaney was local to Bristol, and wouldn't have been hanging around Avon and Somerset head quarters on the off chance... He would have needed to travel from his home...
Dr Delaney could well have lived  a two hour Journey away.... I have found A "Russell Delaney  and a Jane Delaney" who lived in Leicester.. Now that a two hour Journey.... !! 

So where did Dr Delaney live at the time he was summoned to Longwood Lane ????
And what actual day did they remove Joanna Yeates to the Mortuary??

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I have attached enlargements of this image, and have circled the areas of Interest...



Image 1: Copy of Image incase it disappears

Image 2: Circled patterned area..

Image 3: Circled finger prints that were not lifted

Image 4: Circled arrow pointing to an area

Image 5: A row of numbers reading what looks like 100 8312 or 100 8317 difficult to tell (100 8812/ 100 8817)

Looking above Image 5's row of numbers I believe there may be an F 59, that is written or P59 difficult to tell ...

The 100 number reminded me when you used to ring the "Operator" back in the day  on that number...


Those numbers must be there for a reason?? Don't know yet, but maybe I can find out what...

Also the patterned area.. If that has come from something why has it not been identified??

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Looking at the kitchen cupboard doors, It appears to me that the cupboard fronts have been stuck on top of the original cupboard doors.....


Image 1: Where the cupboards meet, there appears to be a cupboard door underneath that are flush.. The doors with the handles have a gap.

Image 2: The cupboard above the cooker to the right, the cupboard front doesn't go to the edge.

Image 3: This is taken from below.. and you can see that the cupboard front on the left is stuck on top of another cupboard front... (imo)


There are many oddities about the staging of that Flat... 



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That Flat.... The Staging.... What have we missed??

Looking at the Flat from the tour, everything about that flat is wrong... It doesn't look like a crime scene... What it looks like is the aftermath of a possible crime scene...

It was the drum in the corner of the front room that I washed over before.... (image attached)

What are they trying to tell us about that scene... I believe it points to someone else entirely... Not Dr Vincent Tabak...

I believe it is trying to tell us that the Cleaners have been in.... I could never understand why all of Joanna Yeates carpets had been removed.. But now I believe I know why....

(1): Assessment: We walk through the site and create zones to prevent cross-contamination.

(2): Bio Removal: This is the most dangerous step as we remove all visible blood, body fluids, and compromised materials.

(3): Preparation: Remove carpet, furniture, dirt, dust, etc. in preparation for disinfecting.

(4): 3-Step Biowash: This involves cleaning, disinfecting, and deodorizing.

(5): Path of Extraction: We use the same 3-step process to disinfect the pathway around and out of the home.

(6): Site Breakdown: Disinfect all equipment and properly dispose of biohazard containers.

We have the pictures (image 2) of the yellow sign of the bio hazzard chemicals in use... It's been done right in front of our faces, but we don't see it...

We see people in Coveralls taking the equipment into Joanna Yeates Flat... (image 3)

All around us we can clearly see that they are cleaning up the crime scene... By the removal of the carpets.. The 8 gallon drum container in the corner of the front room, they are telling us I believe that this scene was Cleaned up and possibly professionally cleaned up!! It could contain specialist cleaning products..(imo)

The video we see of the Flat that the jury was supposed to have seen... Is of a "Crime Scene" that has been cleaned (imo)

The areas we have seen that have had arrows pointing to them or the little red dots, possibly are where blood or fluids of some type that they could not render a sample from because the Flat had been cleaned.... And again I'll say possibly professionally cleaned...

Maybe the bedroom was the scene of crime... It is the only area that has actually got brand new underlay.... I believe they took the original underlay away... (As Evidence)..

They have always insisted that Joanna Yeates was "Missing" from the 17th December 2010... That gives someone 2 days in which to professionally clean that Flat...  And the staging and the imagery we see tells us this I believe...

There is no way that body fluids did not release from Joanna Yeates body.. (imo) And if their insistence was that she had been killed in the Flat , then there should have been bodily fluids to show that it had happened there...

If the Flat has been cleaned... They would have a hard time getting samples...

This Case is puzzling... completely puzzling.. And they know what happened to Joanna Yeates.. Or should I rephrase that... They know that Dr Vincent Tabak didn't kill her...  You are talking about more than one person involved when it comes to clean up... That in itself makes them accessories... So... did Dr Vincent Tabak let us know that if someone had come round to clean up the Flat... No-one would have heard anything going on??

Defence Counsel: Tell me, what is the building, 44 Canynge Road made of?
Tabak: Stone. Stone is good insulation; hardly can hear others in other flats in the
building.

There is always something hidden in what people say and the statements that were made!! (imo)

In CJ's second witness statement we do not know the exact time or day that he saw people at the gate.... Talking in hushed tones... Well was it the cleaners that CJ saw ???

Anything is possible!!

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(2): Bio Removal: This is the most dangerous step as we remove all visible blood, body fluids, and compromised materials.

Might explain why in image 3 they have breathing masks on and full protection.....


http://www.aftermath.com/content/crime-scene-cleanup-supplies

http://www.aftermath.com/wp-content/uploads/28PointChecklist.pdf

http://www.criminal-lawyer.org.uk/39-CLN-JAN-2012.pdf

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Dr Miller tells court it was very likely that death or severe trauma occurred within 8 to 10 hours of her last meal. #JoYeates

6:14 AM - 18 Oct 2011

8 to 10 hours...

Friday December 17, 12.50pm: Miss Yeates and Mr Reardon, who both work for design consultancy BDP in Bristol, have lunch together at the Hope and Anchor near their offices. Joanna eats cheesy chips. Sadly it turns out to be her last meal.

How do we know this was her last meal?? How do we know when she died as she was frozen??


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/joanna-yeates-murder-timeline-of-events-2377178.html

https://twitter.com/HarrietTolputt/status/126285066757357568

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"Sufficient volume of blood" smeared on wall to cause "drips towards the ground" - forensic expert tells court. #JoYeates

2:38 AM - 18 Oct 2011

Was Joanna Yeates still alive to loose so much blood???


https://twitter.com/SunriseIsabel/status/126230748389851137

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Tanya Nickson analysed blood found on wall of Longwood Lane and attended #JoYeates post-mortem. She is giving live evidence now #TabakTrial

2:29 AM - 18 Oct 2011

Is that new ?? Or did I forget she attended the Post Mortem??

https://twitter.com/SunriseIsabel/status/126228443070345216

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While trying to find out what clothes Jo was wearing Greg lifted the bed cover and saw one of her amethyst teardrop earrings. #joyeates

6:39 AM - 17 Oct 2011

So the clothes she had on Friday, must have still been at home ?? only conclusion!

https://twitter.com/rupertevelyn/status/125928908431441920