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Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3150 on: January 10, 2019, 09:53:23 PM »
(44): Dc Jon Hook................

DC Jon Hook.... ??

From the Polices website..


From Canygne Road


I have attached an image of Jon Hook on Canygne Road at the time of the investigation and compared it to the above image.... I cannot say for sure if they are the same person... But I thought I'd post it anyway.... (I have added said image.. compare the two above images)..

Here we have confirmation of Jon's involvement with the Joanna Yeates case, even though, I hadn't heard him mentioned at all, but had discovered who he was because of another TV program he had been on..

Which family did he work with in the Joanna Yeates Case???

So he is a Family Liaison Officer.... So why was he taking Peter Stanley to Avon and Somersets Police station on the 31st December 2010??

Nothing makes sense or adds up..... ever....!!

Jon tells us what you did in The Joanna Yeates Murder case please... I keep trying to work it out.....

We know have 3 Family Liaison Officers

* DC Jon Hook....  Who for??

* DC Russ Jones (Yeates)

* DC Emma Davies (Yeates? Reardon)

So what happened to DC Jon Hook??

video....
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/christopher-jefferies-questioned-new-witness-joanna-news-footage/665467820

Why is DC Jon Hook getting into Peter Stanleys car??  And what connection does PS have to the case other than helping starting the car of Greg Reardon??.... Why would PS need a Family Liason Officer???

So many questions... It's never ending......  The article states that DC Jon Hook was involved with The Joanna Yeates case.... He's role through his career appears to be an Family Liaison Officer

So who's family Liaison Officer was DC Jon Hook??? Seeing as it''s his specialist role???

I'm sure he deserves his award... I just want to clarify his role in The Joanna Yeates Murder Investigation....

Who's Family Liaison Officer was he?? If not what did he actually do??  We saw him collect forensic bags... But they could have sent a forensic Officer to do that....


You see Carolyn nothing is as it seems, so many people on scene at Canygne Road....

Edit.. Double Edit.. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8194.msg434516;topicseen#msg434516



https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/meet-police-officer-one-hardest-2371200


https://www.avonandsomerset-pcc.gov.uk/News-and-Events/News-Archive/2019/January/New-Year's-Honours-for-two-officers-from-Avon-and-Somerset-Police.aspx

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8856277/Joanna-Yeates-family-statement-in-full.html

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3178118

More than one FLO can be assigned to a case to support the family, I found this out simply by searching what that role entailed.
http://library.college.police.uk/docs/acpo/Family-Liaison-Strategy-Manual-2003.pdf

Hook is getting into the car because he is accompanying him to give a statement - why is that a problem?

FLO is one of his roles but as a detective, he will have others - why is THAT a problem?

My name is CAROLINE and everything seems as it should be.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3151 on: January 10, 2019, 11:27:47 PM »
apologies for getting your name incorrect caroline ?{)(**

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3152 on: January 11, 2019, 01:45:33 AM »
The Facebook Campaign that was launched I think on the 4th January 2011 ( I may be wrong)..

But I have found this ITN clip from back then and it shows the actual ad campaign, I think it must be the ad campaign...

I am trying to understand how the campaign was set up, and also was wondering if this was the news report that lead to ITV being banned..

At 1:26 of the clip...

It shows an image of the Facebook page, it is a separate page to the Avon and Somerset Constabulary's FB page, for this page you need to sign up to it.... (I will add images)

The top of the page says:

Avon and Somerset Constabulary is on Facebook
Sign up for Facebook to connect with Avon and Somerset Constabulary


To the left near the top of the page is a big green Sign up button..

It has on its wall what is already on Avon and Somersets Facebook page, but it must be aimed at someone.... (possibly)

The only app that comes close that I can find now is an app called mail chimp, it allows you to target people who may have unsubscribed to your list of contacts or just add your list of contacts to it.... But Mail Chimp wasn't around back then so I do not know what was used at that time..

detectives have been contacting Miss Yeates friends on Facebook and they have also posted an appeal on the social networking site.

I wondered if it was actually Joanna Yeates Facebook page that they used??  Or maybe it was their own I don't really know.

But looking at that page the only appeal that is visible is about Ballooning??

Avon and Somerset Constabulary _ Police appeal for witnesses and information following ballooning in

That appeal was on the 3rd January 2011, I cannot find any information about the Ballooning, but if this is the dedicated page for information about Joanna Yeates, then what has ballooning got to do with Joanna Yeates?

This is all I can find of the dedicated page and facebook campaign, it may be all that is left of it....


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xggxsv

The big green button is for signing up to Facebook, not the constabulary page. You can't view the constabulary page unless you're a FB member. The big green button is still on FB.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2019, 03:19:08 PM by Caroline »

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3153 on: January 11, 2019, 09:27:41 AM »
Why are you doing this?

I have no idea anymore, I think its time everything I have written was removed...

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3154 on: January 11, 2019, 07:36:55 PM »
I have no idea anymore, I think its time everything I have written was removed...

You have put a lot of effort into this, maybe concentrate on someone (or something) that deserves your attention.

Offline John

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3155 on: January 14, 2019, 10:50:24 PM »
I have no idea anymore, I think its time everything I have written was removed...

I think you have made a valiant attempt to justify the unjustifiable.  The moment Vincent Tabak agreed to plead guilty to manslaughter was the moment it was all over for him.  IMO the only possible redress he may have had was to appeal the murder conviction and have it replaced with one of involuntary manslaughter.  Involuntary manslaughter occurs when the agent has no intention (mens rea) of committing murder, but caused the death of another through recklessness or criminal negligence.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2019, 11:04:54 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. John Lamberton exposes malfeasance by public officials.
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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3156 on: January 15, 2019, 01:02:07 PM »
I think you have made a valiant attempt to justify the unjustifiable.  The moment Vincent Tabak agreed to plead guilty to manslaughter was the moment it was all over for him.  IMO the only possible redress he may have had was to appeal the murder conviction and have it replaced with one of involuntary manslaughter.  Involuntary manslaughter occurs when the agent has no intention (mens rea) of committing murder, but caused the death of another through recklessness or criminal negligence.

Hm, yes, I wonder why he didn't appeal the murder conviction.

Offline John

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« Reply #3157 on: January 16, 2019, 01:14:38 PM »
Hm, yes, I wonder why he didn't appeal the murder conviction.

I wondered that too, I don't think he set out to murder Joanna Yeates, it has never been suggested that he was under the influence of drink or drugs at the time or was acting in a state of temporary insanity.  I believe he was infatuated with Joanna and tried it on with her with devastating consequences.  Involuntary manslaughter would have been the appropriate charge IMO with anything up to a life sentence still applied.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. John Lamberton exposes malfeasance by public officials.
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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3158 on: January 17, 2019, 07:48:23 AM »
I wondered that too, I don't think he set out to murder Joanna Yeates, it has never been suggested that he was under the influence of drink or drugs at the time or was acting in a state of temporary insanity.  I believe he was infatuated with Joanna and tried it on with her with devastating consequences.  Involuntary manslaughter would have been the appropriate charge IMO with anything up to a life sentence still applied.

I find it difficult to believe he was infatuated with Joanna, when he had only known her for a few days------unless, of course, he had met her before.  That's what we don't know!


He appears to have been very close to his partner, Tanja.

Offline Myster

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« Reply #3159 on: January 17, 2019, 08:14:52 AM »
As was Joanna Yeates to Greg Reardon.

But Tabak was much closer to the violent pornography on his computer and was determined to follow it through only hours later!

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« Reply #3160 on: January 17, 2019, 08:54:26 AM »
Can someone explain what an Utter Barrister is....


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« Reply #3162 on: January 17, 2019, 11:46:47 AM »
As was Joanna Yeates to Greg Reardon.

But Tabak was much closer to the violent pornography on his computer and was determined to follow it through only hours later!

Speculation, Myster !!  Speculation-------------

BTW, I mean about the porn, not about Joanna and Greg.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3163 on: January 17, 2019, 01:48:34 PM »
I find it difficult to believe he was infatuated with Joanna, when he had only known her for a few days------unless, of course, he had met her before.  That's what we don't know!


He appears to have been very close to his partner, Tanja.

Isn't that also speculation?

However .....

His computer history showed that

"on the morning of 7 January - weeks after JY's body had been found - Tabak searched for "Jo Yeates" on Google, minutes before moving on to the violent pornographic sites

"Some of those films contained images of a woman again being held by the throat," Mr Lickley told Bristol Crown Court.

And some recovered images showed a petite blonde woman with her top pulled up in a similar fashion to how Miss Yeates was found.

"That suggests he derived sexual pleasure from them," said Mr Lickley.

"He received a text message from his girlfriend but continued watching the pornography."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-14904647

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3164 on: January 17, 2019, 02:09:18 PM »
Speculation, Myster !!  Speculation-------------

BTW, I mean about the porn, not about Joanna and Greg.
As I stated, hours before the murder Tabak viewed pornography on his laptop and / or PC, as evidenced by police who seized them.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8847951/Vincent-Tabak-developed-sexual-fetish-after-watching-violent-porn-films.html

'Experts were also able to show that Tabak logged onto a pornographic website on the morning of December 17, the day he murdered Miss Yeates.'