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Offline Real justice

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5085 on: June 15, 2019, 09:56:12 PM »
Hereís a couple of interesting things Iíve recently found out.

The television was left on in The flat, this indicating that Joanna was planning just an ordinary evening and reinforces the fact she had arrived home.

Tabak had already confessed to the physical act of killing Joanna, before William Clegg had met him for the first time. Clegg then says there was no question of having to point out the strength of the evidence against him.

He also said, he spoke better English than most of his clients, he understood everything he explained to him and never needed anything explaining twice. He understood the court process and it was so unusual having someone as intelligent charged with murder.


Anyone thinking Clegg didnít do his job, should read the evidence he got thrown out at pre trial,  challenging evidence that could have been used.



Offline APRIL

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5086 on: June 16, 2019, 10:06:05 AM »
Hereís a couple of interesting things Iíve recently found out.

The television was left on in The flat, this indicating that Joanna was planning just an ordinary evening and reinforces the fact she had arrived home.

Tabak had already confessed to the physical act of killing Joanna, before William Clegg had met him for the first time. Clegg then says there was no question of having to point out the strength of the evidence against him.

He also said, he spoke better English than most of his clients, he understood everything he explained to him and never needed anything explaining twice. He understood the court process and it was so unusual having someone as intelligent charged with murder.


Anyone thinking Clegg didnít do his job, should read the evidence he got thrown out at pre trial,  challenging evidence that could have been used.



RJ, it's my understanding that English is the second language in the Netherlands and taught from the time children start school. Many of our young -who don't speak Dutch- are choosing to do their degrees in Holland because there's no language problem.

Offline APRIL

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5087 on: June 16, 2019, 10:07:00 AM »
Most  @)(++(*

Was trying to be generous, Caroline!!!

Offline Myster

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5088 on: June 16, 2019, 06:42:27 PM »
Haven't seen anything on that recently, maybe it's been scrapped?
I can't find anything either since Oct. 2018... it was supposed to be shown this Spring.  Perhaps the family have complained or Bamber's lawyers have requested a (temporary) stop to avoid prejudicing any proposed CCRC submission.

So instead...

This quality 1993 drama surfaces then disappears almost as quickly, so grab a shufty while you can...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZILACHl544

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SvOn2slubk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzw2ni8L9Q0

Offline Real justice

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5089 on: June 16, 2019, 06:51:03 PM »


RJ, it's my understanding that English is the second language in the Netherlands and taught from the time children start school. Many of our young -who don't speak Dutch- are choosing to do their degrees in Holland because there's no language problem.
Thanks for that April, English is no longer considered a foreign language in Holland. 

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5090 on: June 17, 2019, 10:06:03 AM »


RJ, it's my understanding that English is the second language in the Netherlands and taught from the time children start school. Many of our young -who don't speak Dutch- are choosing to do their degrees in Holland because there's no language problem.

Yes, my nephew did his work experience in Holland, and he certainly doesn't speak Dutch!,

Offline APRIL

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5091 on: June 17, 2019, 12:51:43 PM »
Yes, my nephew did his work experience in Holland, and he certainly doesn't speak Dutch!,


Which suggests that too many names to mention's belief is totally erroneous that 'poor' Tabak, a man with a Phd, and fully conversant with the English language, didn't completely understand the 'Englishness' of the questions put to him by the police.

Offline puglove

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5092 on: July 03, 2019, 07:56:08 PM »
Yes, I saw him on that too - made me wonder and it's not listed as a 'thing' on his IMDB page.

Apparently (according to Daily Mail Weekend magazine) the "upcoming ITV drama The Whitehouse Murders" is still happening. Freddie Fox decided not to meet Bamber - can't say I blame him.
Magpies are feathery arseholes.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5093 on: July 03, 2019, 10:36:48 PM »
Apparently (according to Daily Mail Weekend magazine) the "upcoming ITV drama The Whitehouse Murders" is still happening. Freddie Fox decided not to meet Bamber - can't say I blame him.

Cheers Pugs - can't blame him either. There is a remarkable likeness though.

Offline APRIL

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5094 on: July 04, 2019, 07:13:11 AM »
Apparently (according to Daily Mail Weekend magazine) the "upcoming ITV drama The Whitehouse Murders" is still happening. Freddie Fox decided not to meet Bamber - can't say I blame him.


Ooh! Tah for that! Had been wondering what had happened to it after all the build up.

Offline [...]

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5095 on: July 14, 2019, 08:18:58 PM »
I see you still haven't removed my posts....

Apparently (according to Daily Mail Weekend magazine) the "upcoming ITV drama The Whitehouse Murders" is still happening. Freddie Fox decided not to meet Bamber - can't say I blame him.

according to the daily mail..

https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/18343005849124864

Quote
Daily Mail Online
@MailOnline
Distraught parents of Jo Yeates plead for help in finding their missing architect daughter: Footage was released... http://bit.ly/fiLHGC
4:31 PM ∑ Dec 24, 2010 ∑ twitterfeed

Leading to this article...

Police searching for missing architect Jo Yeates discover a woman's body

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
CREATED: 14:38, 24 December 2010

Discovery made about four miles from the missing architect's flat
No official identification made as pathologist is called to the scene
Grim find made early this morning by a couple walking their dog
Joanna Yeates
Missing: Joanna Yeates. The body of a young woman has been found on a snow-covered verge

Police searching for missing Jo Yeates say they have found a woman's body close to a golf course.

No identification has been made on the body which was discovered about four miles from the flat she shared with her boyfriend.

The discovery was made today by a couple walking their dogs in the Failand area of North Somerset, an Avon and Somerset Police spokesman said.

A force spokesman said: 'At 9am this morning a couple walking their dogs found the body of a young woman in a roadside verge in Longwood Lane in the Failand area of North Somerset.

'The area has been cordoned off and Longwood Lane has been closed at both ends by police, pending an examination of the scene by crime scene investigators.

'A pathologist will be attending the scene to examine the body.

Containing this image...



Please explain to me ...

* How The Daily Mail has an article about Joanna Yeates being discovered on Longwood Lane on the day before    she was discovered on the 25th December 2010??

* Showing an image taken from sky news of the Police on Longwood lane?? Showing an image from the footage      that was apparently seen for the first time on Christmas day?

Reminded me of the article that BDP also wrote on the 24th December 2010

http://www.bdp.com/en/latest/news/2010/Jo-Yeates/

That too being posted online on the 24th December 2010...

I don't get it.... doesn't make sense, maybe someone can explain...

And I always go back to it being made up.... especially when a news outlet posts about an event the day before it apparently happened....

Edit.... The url from the tweet leads to this article :

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1341452/Jo-Yeates-murder-Police-search-missing-architect-finds-womans-body.html#comments

Double Edit.. Kind of calls into question the statement read out in court of Daniel Birch ...

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Miss Yeates's body was found "in a fetal-type position" on Christmas Day by dog walker Daniel Birch.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8831979/Vincent-Tabak-trial-Jo-Yeatess-boyfriend-describes-panic-at-finding-her-keys-in-flat.html

By Martin Evans
11:37AM BST 14 Oct 2011

Quote
In a written statement read out to Bristol Crown Court, Daniel Birch said he had his wife Rebecca had been walking their chocolate Labrador, Roxy, on Christmas morning when they made the gruesome discovery.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8826662/Joanna-Yeates-trial-snow-covered-body-found-by-dog-walker.html

Kinda calls into question the whole trial..... (imo)

Kinda keeps me asking what was real.....

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #5096 on: July 18, 2019, 09:59:06 PM »
I see you still haven't removed my posts....

according to the daily mail..

https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/18343005849124864

Leading to this article...

Police searching for missing architect Jo Yeates discover a woman's body

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
CREATED: 14:38, 24 December 2010

Discovery made about four miles from the missing architect's flat
No official identification made as pathologist is called to the scene
Grim find made early this morning by a couple walking their dog
Joanna Yeates
Missing: Joanna Yeates. The body of a young woman has been found on a snow-covered verge

Police searching for missing Jo Yeates say they have found a woman's body close to a golf course.

No identification has been made on the body which was discovered about four miles from the flat she shared with her boyfriend.

The discovery was made today by a couple walking their dogs in the Failand area of North Somerset, an Avon and Somerset Police spokesman said.

A force spokesman said: 'At 9am this morning a couple walking their dogs found the body of a young woman in a roadside verge in Longwood Lane in the Failand area of North Somerset.

'The area has been cordoned off and Longwood Lane has been closed at both ends by police, pending an examination of the scene by crime scene investigators.

'A pathologist will be attending the scene to examine the body.

Containing this image...



Please explain to me ...

* How The Daily Mail has an article about Joanna Yeates being discovered on Longwood Lane on the day before    she was discovered on the 25th December 2010??

* Showing an image taken from sky news of the Police on Longwood lane?? Showing an image from the footage      that was apparently seen for the first time on Christmas day?

Reminded me of the article that BDP also wrote on the 24th December 2010

http://www.bdp.com/en/latest/news/2010/Jo-Yeates/

That too being posted online on the 24th December 2010...

I don't get it.... doesn't make sense, maybe someone can explain...

And I always go back to it being made up.... especially when a news outlet posts about an event the day before it apparently happened....

Edit.... The url from the tweet leads to this article :

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1341452/Jo-Yeates-murder-Police-search-missing-architect-finds-womans-body.html#comments

Double Edit.. Kind of calls into question the statement read out in court of Daniel Birch ...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8831979/Vincent-Tabak-trial-Jo-Yeatess-boyfriend-describes-panic-at-finding-her-keys-in-flat.html

By Martin Evans
11:37AM BST 14 Oct 2011

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8826662/Joanna-Yeates-trial-snow-covered-body-found-by-dog-walker.html

Kinda calls into question the whole trial..... (imo)

Kinda keeps me asking what was real.....

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