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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #195 on: July 02, 2017, 04:47:30 PM »



What was that again??????

"NO JURY UNLESS THE DEFENDANT PLEADS NOT GUILTY??????  Not Unless the defendant Pleas Partial GUILT!!!

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #196 on: July 02, 2017, 05:13:27 PM »
Well I'm obviously not going to get an answer about the lighting. Reminder: I was asking about the kitchen light (interior) being on and how Joanna could have seen VT on the outside of the building.

I believe VT is guilty, in his own words, until anyone can show me anything different.

Yes the words did come out of VT's own mouth, remember this is Bristol and not Guantanamo Bay. He won't have been tortured and been brainwashed to plead guilty when innocent. I think that no-one would disagree with the statement that the Joanna Yeates case was not Avon & Somerset's finest hour, but I don't really think that they would stoop to any of the things that have been posted on this thread.

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« Reply #197 on: July 02, 2017, 05:27:17 PM »
Ok... Back to photographs of Judge Richard Alan Field.. Born 1947


http://www.topfoto.co.uk/imageflows2/?s=Richard+alan+field+







The First Photo is apparently 87....  So he's always worn Glasses.... must have had eye surgery since 2011


I've added an extra Image from the post below...

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #198 on: July 02, 2017, 05:30:20 PM »
Doesn't it count that he pleaded guilty to manslaughter and not guilty to murder?

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« Reply #199 on: July 02, 2017, 05:33:38 PM »
Wouldn't that require a jury?

The 'photos you have put up all look like the same man to me.

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« Reply #200 on: July 02, 2017, 05:34:32 PM »
Doesn't it count that he pleaded guilty to manslaughter and not guilty to murder?


Of Course... But Then shouldn't the Judge have passed sentence.... Shouldn't Dr Vincent Tabak have been offered something for "A Plea"... and not blindly make The prosecution Case Easier !!!

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #201 on: July 02, 2017, 05:36:29 PM »
Wouldn't that require a jury?

The 'photos you have put up all look like the same man to me.

That's fine... I can't see him in this photo though.. `is he the dude with the glasses with the book????? He's supposed to be there ....


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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #202 on: July 02, 2017, 05:43:03 PM »
Think I'm getting lost with all this legal mumbo jumbo ........ but I was answering you're post re: poster which says: No jury unless defendant pleads 'not guilty'.

VT pled not guilty to murder so he got a jury - right?

The jury found him guilty.

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« Reply #203 on: July 02, 2017, 05:43:32 PM »
3rd left I think.

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« Reply #204 on: July 02, 2017, 05:45:24 PM »
Look at the ears.

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« Reply #205 on: July 02, 2017, 05:45:46 PM »
Could be.... (Still wearing glasses)... But my simple question really is... why have two different types of hearings listed at the same court at the same time on the same date in different court rooms ???

Especially when court room time is carefully managed ????

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #206 on: July 02, 2017, 05:51:11 PM »
Think I'm getting lost with all this legal mumbo jumbo ........ but I was answering you're post re: poster which says: No jury unless defendant pleads 'not guilty'.

VT pled not guilty to murder so he got a jury - right?

The jury found him guilty.

Agreed... To an extent.... But Why "Plea" "Guilty To Manslaughter"...when he has NO Guarantee of The Prosecution accepting his Plea... Or The Judge passing sentence... Or even a reduction on his sentence.... Make NO Sense Whatsoever !!!!

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #207 on: July 02, 2017, 05:58:20 PM »
Surely Nine there are NO guarantees when you are on trial. Your defence can tell you what they think will happen, but no guarantees, right down to the jury.

You're right it doesn't make any sense at all. VT destroyed two lives on that day Joanna Yeates and his own.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #208 on: July 02, 2017, 06:12:34 PM »
You've lost me a bit on this one Nine. VT had to plea to something didn't he and the prosecution didn't accept his manslaughter plea. Again no guarantees Nine.

Don't you have to have the trial before the judge can pass sentence?

Reduction in his sentence .... why? This man has killed someone whether by manslaughter or murder, why on earth give him a reduction?

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #209 on: July 02, 2017, 06:24:36 PM »
Surely Nine there are NO guarantees when you are on trial. Your defence can tell you what they think will happen, but no guarantees, right down to the jury.

You're right it doesn't make any sense at all. VT destroyed two lives on that day Joanna Yeates and his own.

Ok Nina... Firstly thank you for posting today...  ?{)(**
But I would say that you are working firstly.... may I say... On the premise that The Guilty Plea means he is Guilty....

Can I ask you... To imagine that the Guilty Plea just didn't happen... And show me how on earth Dr Vincent Tabak had time to commit this crime... when he was at his home till 9:29pm on Friday 2010... ???

Show me how The Prosecution had Proven Dr Vincent Tabak's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt....

Help me understand... Why so many witness's were absent from this trial....Help me understand "HOW" So many witness's for The Prosecution just gave written statements ???  Help me understand why the venue for his... "For Mention Hearing"  Or whatever they decided to tell untruths about this Plea.. Management... Whatever the heck they want to call it "hearing.".. At Two different Court Rooms on the Same Day at a Venue that was suddenly changed too....  And was listed twice on the Court Scene website.... For what reason???


Help me understand ...Why 'A Placid Dutchman... who was content with his lot in life as all outwardly appearances would suggest... That he would risk complete ruin and imprisonment ... To try his chances with his next door neighbour whom he had never meet... A Placid Dutchman who had spent 10 years gaining his PHD to become a People Flow Specialist....

A Placid Dutchman.... WHERE...... No supporting evidence of any such devience was presented to the Court/Jury to prove he had various tendencies.... Never mind the Porn!!!! Where NO females whom had had contact with Dr Vincent Tabak queuing up saying what a Deviant he was and how they were accosted by him were presented to the court/jury....... All those female work colleagues...acquaintances... All of them who were afraid of Dr Vincent Tabak... All lined up in a row for the prosecution to tell their stories of horror..... Where were they??????

Where was any Psychological Evaluation of this Placid Dutchman... Proving His tendencies... proving as some have said that he was A Serial Killer In the making!!!!

Everyone knows this case from what they have read in the papers... and a trial that was simply a formality... Let everyone try and look at this case in a different light... By taking away.. "The Plea"... And actually looking at the evidence the prosecution  didn't have... And what supposed Defence Dr Vincent Tabak received... Because in my opinion.... The Defence was a School Play at best.... And The prosecution were playing a game of Smoke and Mirrors... Whilst this DUTCH NATIONAL didn't have a clue at to what happens with the "British Judical System" as his Defence Lawyer was The only person who could provide him with any explanation....


And really Nina.... Do you think that William Clegg Helped Dr Vincent Tabak????  The very same William Clegg who said these Unkind words about their client... Who was A Foreigner in A Foreign Land ??

1:  His conduct after Yeates died when he hid the body was “frankly disgusting” and had caused untold anguish and agony to her family.

2:  “I’m not going to ask you to like Vincent Tabak. There’s probably nothing to like.”

3:   And Miss Morson seems to agree, having failed to make a single  appearance at court.

4:  He had told “lie after lie to the police.

5: “Did everything he could to cover his tracks”.

6: He added that he would not try to justify Tabak’s actions after her death, saying his client was “living a lie” by
    attending dinner parties and attempting to carry on his life as normal.

7:  “I’m not going to ask you to have any sympathy for him. He deserves none.

8: “I’m not going to ask you to excuse his conduct. There can be no excuse.

9: “If I was to set out to win a popularity contest I would lose.

10: He told the court: “Of course, afterwards his behaviour is utterly disgraceful. It’s not going to be justified by me


"Ten Statements" That he so "Lovingly" used to help with his  "Supremely Logical Reasoned Approach

To support a vulnerable Dutch National In his Hour of need!!!!