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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1530 on: July 09, 2018, 09:01:24 AM »
Who's that behind David Yeates, attending the trial?? (Image 1)

A family resemblance is there... Could be Jo Yeates double..

The older lady to the left looks related also.. (image2)

 A closer look at the young lady.... who has a marked resemblance of Jo... (image 3)

This is on the 10th October 2011...  I hadn't seen that before, nice of the FLO Officer to escort them in and out of the building.. 


Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1531 on: July 09, 2018, 09:20:49 AM »
Kite...... That's a new one to me.......

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The Jury of six men and six woman spent about 20 minutes inside this property, at the flat where Jo Yeates lived with her boyfriend Greg Reardon.. is er... Just to The right hand side, It's a basement garden flat.

They went inside and inside we can show you some pictures, er they found many of Miss Yeates personal possessions as they were left last December. In the living room there was still Christmas Tinsel up, there was ..er.. some unopened crackers in a box some wrapping paper with snow men on, work files with the name Jo Yeates hand written along the spine.

DVD's from the comedy series Red Dwarf , stickers from the rock band Cold Play.. In the hall some of her training shoes a cycling helmet ..er er.. kite.. wrapped up.. And in her bedroom make-up, hair-straighteners, cuddly toys left on a chest of draws 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-15298038/trial-jury-shown-jo-yeates-flat.

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1532 on: July 09, 2018, 09:45:32 AM »
What is Dr Vincent Tabak's role in all of this... Why is he so quiet... I keep thinking about it...

As I keep saying I do not believe he killed Joanna Yeates... It's like a script, the case is strange.. It' weird off centre.. Ad still no-one speaks...

I have gone through every scenario know to man..... (Slight exaggeration there) But.. I have covered everything i can think of at this moment in time..

Who is Dr Vincent Tabak, a man who I have felt has been has been dragged through our judicial system and not treated fairly.. Is he real?? I'm I chasing windmills??

Or is this case about something else?? I really don't know anymore to be honest... I have been backwards and forward and round and round in circle....

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1533 on: July 09, 2018, 11:06:18 AM »
Is this apparently where Dr Vincent Tabak admits guilt??

DailyStar 23rd January 2011.... see attached

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1534 on: July 11, 2018, 09:05:10 PM »
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8060.msg471683#msg471683

I wrote about the media startergy and was trying to find out when this strategy was first put into place..

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Homepage
  ,Homepage banner and spotlight images
¯ 1440 inbound messages went to the investigation team via the form on the website
   Newsroom
¯ Newsroom story with regular updates
¯ Updates automatically pushed out via twitter with #joyeates "hashtags"
¯ Updates automatically appeared on dedicated section (see below)
,  Story e-mailed out to subscribers (currently 15,000+ subscriber base) and media contacts
¯ Briefings filmed / uploaded to YouTube and embedded as well as images
   Dedicated section
¯ Set up special website address- www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/jo
¯ Interactive Google map showing key locations
¯ Video play list showing most recent video release first
¯ Image gallery of Jo
¯ Facebook and Twitter sharing tools
¯ Secure on-line contact form sending messages direct to the incident room
¯ Twitter widget showing discussion around the case and our updates
¯ IP address logging for investigative purposes
   Local pages
¯ Localised community safety article in the Clifton area
¯ Downloadable advice leaflet (the same as distributed physically in the area


The implimentation of the media startegy appears to be 20th 21st  December 2010 if I am understanding DCI Phil Jones Leveson Inquiry statements..

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    Mr Jay
You refer to this in your statement. We can see the date of the strategy, 13 January 2011, so presumably it superseded an earlier strategy, did it?

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Mr Philip Jones
Yes. In essence, sir, this was, if you like, documenting the investigative media strategy. It had been implemented at the very early stages when this was a missing person investigation, which was back on 20, 21 December 2010. So it was just a combination of -- that investigative media strategy had been implemented; it was just a question of obviously documenting it within the actual policy book itself and having a record of that.

I presume the www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/jo was the earlier strategy... So what was the strategy from the 13th January 2011??

And wasn't the 20th December 2010 rather early to impliment this strategy as she had only just been reported 'Missing"!!






https://leveson.sayit.mysociety.org/hearing-27-march-2012/mr-philip-jones

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1535 on: July 11, 2018, 09:50:32 PM »
If the media strategy was implemented from 20/21st December 2010....

Why didn't the strategy change when Joanna Yeates body was found and the announcement of a Murder inquiry was made on the 28th December 2010??...

Why didn't the strategy change when CJ had been named in the papers...

Is the stategy they are referring to anything to do with the facebook forum??

What happened on the 13th January 2011 to make them change strategy?? 

This is strange... Missing person Inquiry and a Murder Inquiry are two completely different types of case... They don't normally use the social media in the way it was used back then.... If a strategy needed changing.... i would have said that it needed changing when they were awre that Joanna yeates had been murdered...(imo)

Or is the 13th January 2011 when the facebook forum became a Discussion Group??/ I do not know the answer to that one....


Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1536 on: July 12, 2018, 12:59:36 PM »
Scenario's... I have covered most.... The Yeates wanted to know what happened between the flat and Longwood Lane...

We know nothing of Joanna Yeates medical history, Why would someone want to kill her?? i mean a real motive and nothing like the idea of the nextdoor neighbour whom had no connection to her...

What was left behind... That goes through my mind all the time... And her parents believing she had been abducted... We only know that Joanna Yeates had taken 4 days off work prior to returning... But what about before??

Had she ever taken time off work before or was taking time off for being ill unusual....

I have strange ideas that fly through my mind.... But I might as well share seeing as nothing has changed since being reported Missing....

Talk of in a fight for her life.... Or was she fighting for someone elses life....  The idea that Joanna Yeates was a surragate mother had entered my head... I wondered if she had been pregnant... I wondered if she had been paid to have a baby for someone else and didn't want to relinquish her child....

I wondered if she was trying to stop someone from taking the child, and thats what caused the attack upon her....

What was left behind.... It cannot be some keys and a coat..... Maybe it was something in relation to a child....

Had Joanna Yeates ever been pregnant?? she could have before and miscarried....

It's just a thought... But ... Christina Rossiter poem on the Missing Group on Facebook had me wondering...

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Christina Rossiter
26 December 2010
God's Lent ChildGod's Lent Child - Unknown
This is just one of the many versions of this popular poem, don't be afraid to edit or alter it in any way if you think it would fit in better with your present circumstances.

"I'll lend you for a little while
A child of mine" God said -
For you to love the while he lives
and mourn for when he's dead.
It may be six or seven years
or forty two or three
but will you, till I call him back,
take care of him for me?

He'll bring his charms to gladden you
and, should his stay be brief,
you'll have his nicest memories
as solace for his grief.
I cannot promise he will stay,
since all from earth return
but, there are lessons taught below,
I want this child to learn.

I've looked the whole world over,
in my search for teachers true,
and from the things that crowd life's lane
I have chosen you.
Now will you give him all your love,
nor think the labour vain,
nor hate me when I come to take
this lent child back again?

I fancied that I heard them say,
"Dear Lord Thy Will Be Done"
for all the joys thy child will bring
the risk of grief we'll run.
We'll shelter him with tenderness,
we'll love him while we may,
and for the happiness we've known
forever grateful stay.
But, should thy Angels call for him
much sooner than we planned,
we'll brave the grief that comes
and try to understand.

Was this child called Joanna ??  Is Joanna Yeates still Missing??

There's a lot of smoke and Mirrors in this Case and there has to be a reason why.... 

Question has to be ...Did Joanna Yeates have a child??

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1537 on: July 13, 2018, 04:59:06 PM »
* Onlookers

* Gawkers

* Sightseers

* Spectator

* Witness

* Angry Mob

Where were all these people??

Where were they when court proceedings too place... where were they when Dr Vincent tabak attended Bristol Magistrates Court and Bristol Crown Court?

Where were these nosey parkers on Canygne Road??

Each and every day this trial takes place and no screeching no wailing... no crying hang him...  No banging o the side of a police van by the public.... No cheers when the speeches are made by the police outside Bristol Crown court when he is convicted..


Where were the hoards of people protesting about this man whom had killed this young girl??

I find that most strange that no-one was there, no public to let Dr Vincent Tabak know he was vile and the public wanted him to know.... It's what happens an outpouring of outrage, by a society horrified by brutal acts..

So where were they for Joanna Yeates??  A woman that had courted so much publicity....  Why didn't the public behave in their usual way??

Crowds gathered for Peter Sutcliffe... But none for Dr Vincent Tabak... none to show support for The Yeates family..

why??




https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/police-van-arrives-at-dewsbury-court-and-peter-sutcliffe-news-footage/1B02081_0001


I have found The Pizza!!1
« Reply #1538 on: July 15, 2018, 08:12:47 PM »
I was not gonna post.... But this says it ALL!!!!!


* The Pizza that Dr Vincent Tabak apparently through away in the bin....

* The Pizza everyone swore blind had disappeared....

* The Pizza that is located on Longwood lane...

* The Pizza that is put into an Evidence bag ...

* The Pizza they had all along, well from 26th December 2010 when this is filmed!

Oh the Pizza that Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to have removed from the Oven.... That Pizza is still in it's box and wrappings... They never mention they find a Pizza on Longwood lane in the Grass verge and  put it into an evidence bag....Do They!!!!


(images attached)...

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1539 on: July 15, 2018, 09:34:49 PM »
It appears the video has gone walkabouts already... !

Nope my mistake.. start at 1:12 video goes to 1:20

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-12080500/police-confirm-body-found-is-missing-architect

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1540 on: July 22, 2018, 11:11:05 AM »
 This entire case, I am at the point where I do not know what is real or not anymore...

No-one has said anything, which I do not understand... and my ramblings are just that....

I do not understand why the forum has this topic, to be honest, or why it was started , if no-one says anything... what I have written might as well be binned.... And maybe it should be.....




Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1541 on: July 27, 2018, 07:13:39 PM »


Canbury scoops 'frank' legal memoir from murder trial lawyer

Canbury scoops 'frank' legal memoir from murder trial lawyer
Published July 25, 2018 by Katherine Cowdrey

Canbury Press is publishing a legal memoir by a QC who has fought some of the biggest murder trials in Britain.

In Under the Wig: A Lawyer’s Stories, of Murder, Guilt and Innocence, leading murder case barrister William Clegg will recount his experiences of English criminal law over the past 40 years, drawing on his involvement as defence counsel in 14 high-profile cases - including the execution of Jill Dando and trial of Vincent Tabak for Joanna Yeates’s murder.

Clegg is head of chambers at 2 Bedford Row and has fought more than 100 murder cases - more than anyone else currently practising at the English Bar. Other cases featured in the book include Colin Stagg’s trial for the murder of Rachel Nickell on Wimbledon Common, the trial of paratrooper Lee Clegg and Britain’s first prosecution for Nazi war crimes.

Rebekah Brooks’s phone hacking trial is also covered in the title after Clegg acted as counsel for the former News International head of security Mark Hanna. Pitched as "vivid and frank" with "the ability to personalise the dramatic and sometimes strange life of a leading murder case barrister", the work aims to give readers an insight into what it’s like to defend a client accused of murder at the Old Bailey.

Clegg, 67, spent three years writing the title, which will now be published as a £16.99 hardback on 4th October 2018.

Martin Hickman, managing director of non-fiction specialist Canbury Press, said: “Bill Clegg is one of the leading criminal lawyers of his generation. His turbo-charged narrative will intrigue and thrill anyone interested in the criminal law. The Secret Barrister and In Your Defence have opened up a substantial market for legal memoir and Bill’s book puts the reader right alongside him in this country’s biggest trials.”

Canbury holds world rights to the work, which was signed directly through Clegg.

rightsCanbury PressWilliam CleggMartin Hickman


Is this worth spending my money on???? Will have to wait a while... It will be interesting if any knew information comes forth in regards to Dr Vincent Tabak....

https://www.thebookseller.com/news/murder-case-barristers-frank-legal-memoir-canbury-837231

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1542 on: July 29, 2018, 06:35:44 PM »
Keep going over the same reports, then noticing something I have Missed before...

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He said Miss Yeates had been suffering from headaches in the week before her disappearance, but had not checked into any hospital for treatment.

Anyone with information is urged to contact police on 0845456 7000 quoting Operation Braid or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111. Miss Yeates had no plans for the weekend when she vanished. She failed to show up at the Bristol architect's firm where she works on Monday morning. Police said this was "very out of character" for her.

Mr Reardon had taken the car he shared with Miss Yeates to Sheffield to visit his family. It is not known whether Miss Yeates left their flat by foot or on her bicycle.

This implies that Jonnna Yeates bicycle was also "Missing"... If they are querying where she left on foot or on her bike.... A little know piece of information that appears to have been overlooked....

Now it then brings images to mind that Image I have seen previously, where I didn't understand the significance of the image....

The removal of a Bike from Aberdeen Road.... You could say it's a mans bike, because of the cross bar... But I don't think that makes any difference these days.....

They remove the Bicycle in the cover of darkness and not attention is drawn to it.... It's only significance could be that it was Joanna Yeates Bike.... Or, they were letting someone know that her bike was "Missing:...

All this talk of cycling, has to be more significant than we maybe have thought previously...

So what of Joanna Yeates bicycle??

The 3 marks on the wall in the hallway...  well six in total 3 on each side, where these marks more to do with bicycle racks??


Mr Reardon had taken the car he shared with Miss Yeates to Sheffield to visit his family. It is not known whether Miss Yeates left their flat by foot or on her bicycle.

Now did Joanna Yeates leave for the works get together from her home as I have suggested before?? With the talk of a kiss and cuddle in the lobby....

Or did they mean that Joanna Yeates had left her Flat again and they were not sure whether she had taken her bicycle as it wasn't in the Flat??  We see the Bicycle Helmet on the shelving in the Hallway... is this why we are shown this image?

Would she always wear her helmet when cycling?
What type of footwear would she wear?
Did the bicycle need you to wear cleats??

Is 'what was left behind' her cycling gear??

This brings questions as to whether Joanna Yeates regularly cycled to work or anywhere else?


Now again I'll question what CJ had seen.... Did he see someone with a bicycle?? Is this why his statement is significant along with seeing people?

Had someone removed Joanna Yeates bicycle and put back her purse/mobile phone etc??

The statement to me implies they believe she reached home and left again... Greg Reardon doesn't go to Sheffield until 7:00pm ish according to various reports, so had Joanna Yeates come home and gone out on her bike??? or had someone removed it ?? There doesn't really seem to be any reason for someone to remove her bike??

But did she go on a ride with someone?? Or did she ride to someones house??  Was the bike Missing more of a reason for Greg to get worried, as all her other possessions were there?? What type of PinK Top was Joanna Yeates found in?? Was is a cycling top?? Greg has to try work out what she is wearing, by looking through the clothes.... was he looking for her cycling gear??

There are always more questions than answers...

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/man-arrested-canynge-road-night-police-woman-standing-on-news-footage/655371512

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8218181/Tearful-parents-plead-Help-find-our-daughter.html

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1543 on: July 31, 2018, 08:31:06 AM »
Looking at the law pages, I found this, my search was slightly different on google, I looked for Ann Reddrop, and came across more information on The Law pages website.....

_____________________________________________________________________________________

Country           :   England & Wales   

Date                   :   28-10-2011

Court Type   :   Crown Court

Court Location   :   Bristol Crown Court

Judge           :   Mr Justice Field

Case number   :   T20117031

Defendant Name   :   Vincent Tabak

Defendant Gender   :   Male

Defendant Age   :   33 Years

Co-Defendant/s   :   Not Recorded

Bail Position   :   In Custody
        
Offence   :   Murder

Sentence   :   Custodial immediate

Length   :   20 Years Life
        
Sentencing Considerations   

Pre-Sentence Report (PSR)   :   Not Recorded

Specific Sentence Report (SSR)   :   Not Recorded

Victim Impact Statement   :   Not Recorded

Undertaken in a group   :   Not Recorded

Victim was serving the public   :   Not Recorded

Victim sustained injuries   :   Not Recorded

Defendant has similar previous convictions   :   Not Recorded

Public Protection Sentence   :   Minimum to Serve - Years: 20

Total Sentence   :   20 Years - Life

Likely Release Date   :   Indeterminate
            
Deportation Recommended   :   Not Recorded

Distinguishing Features/Facts   :   

He pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was found guilty of murder (10:2 majority verdict) after he strangled his 25-year-old female victim in her flat in Clifton, Bristol, on 17 December 2010. His victims body was discovered by dog walkers on Christmas Day. He had strangled his victim holding her neck with one hand and smothering her with his other hand. The prosecution's case was that he had an intention to kill or cause really serious bodily harm and that the attack had been planned, premeditated and sexually motivated. His victim suffered 43 injuries and expert witnesses were called to clarify what the medical evidence suggested. During the investigation he had told investigators that his landlords (Volvo) vehicle had moved during the night of the murder and police arrested the man who was later released without charge.

Following the verdict the jury heard how he had viewed violent pornography on the web. The judge agreed with defence counsel that disclosure of his internet use following his victim's death was not proof that the crime was premeditated. Videos and pictures found on his laptop and work computer depicted a man holding a woman's neck during sex and images of women tied up in the boot of vehicles.

The judge said: "I think there was a sexual element to this killing.... In my view you are very dangerous. In my opinion you are thoroughly deceitful, dishonest and manipulative."   

Mitigation   :   Not Recorded

Sentenced   :   After Trial
            
Defence Team           

Solicitor's Firm   :   Kelcey & Hall

Solicitor   :   Not Recorded

Chambers   :   2 Bedford Row

Barrister   :   William Clegg QC


http://thelawpages.com/court-cases/print_sentence.php?id=7570


We have so much information NOT RECORDED!  Why would that be???

* No Mitigation

* No Solicitor

* No Injuries

* No Victim impact Statement

* No Pre-Sentence Report

* No Specific Sentence Report

* No Deportation Recommended

* No Likely Release Date

* No Victim was serving the public

* No Undertaken in a group


More questions than answers...... 

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1544 on: July 31, 2018, 09:08:05 AM »
So who from Kelcey & Hall was Dr Vincent Tabak's solicitor??