The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[Nicholas]

None of you know him Daisy.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Most of us are familiar with post prison images of JB in normal clothes.  Who took these images?

SL's book contains an image of JB with a rather attractive man (def not SL) wearing normal clothes.  Who was this person and who took the image?

If prison rules are so draconian how come so much contraband gets in?  Surely not all from dodgy staff?

Prisoners are allowed to wear their own clothes. Ronnie Kray used to wear suits, bespoke 😤

I’ve seen photos online of the evil Myra Hyndley laying on her prison bed in casual clothes.


That’s got nothing to do with visiting rules, you know.

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Hello Daisy. It's lovely that you've been such good supports for each other. It must have been very difficult time for you both. It was all a very long time ago, now, and whilst I think it's easier to evaluate a situation from a distance, sometimes the situation gets blurred.

I feel concerned that AA recalls being isolated with him -a perfect scenario for indoctrination- and then having nowhere and no one with whom she could share it with. Even counselors have the luxury(!) of a supervisor who helps them make sense of what they've heard. I'm not in any way hearing that he wanted to protect her, I think he wanted to isolate her as a way of controlling her. It most certainly made it easy for him to discard her. It sounds very much as if he'd found someone more interesting to fill the place she was vacating. However, maybe you experienced exactly the same thing and felt he was protecting you?

I'm sorry you're no longer in touch. Circumstances created a strong bond between you. Might it be worth reaching out again?

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I believe AA mentioned 18 years!! That's a very long time. One on one visits, weekly? Phone calls in between? Secrets which couldn't be shared? From where I'm sitting, it comes very close to grooming, ie having the opportunity to manipulate another person to accept certain beliefs. I wonder if this is something you recognize from the time of your own friendship with him?

I can understand why AA, you -indeed, anyone who's ever found themselves in that sort of relationship- would want to cling to what they believed to have been true. To deny it brings the whole pack of playing card, the house built on sand, crumbling around our ears. Very hard to accept. Even harder, and infinitely more painful, is accepting that we'd been used. Might such be the reason that contact was severed?

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AA, that the best thing I've heard all morning. We all need some of that in lockdown!!

[Angelo222]

I cannot prove any of it.  I’m no threat. 

As for Julie, as I have no idea but I do believe Jeremy when he told me he did not phone her saying tonight is the night...

With respect AA, that just goes to show how gullible you are and what's more, Bamber knows it.  He has spun you a yarn just like the bullshit he told Julie about a hitman and she too believed him.   

[Angelo222]

He did know what happened Aunt Agatha - sadly you’ve been conned

Like so many others!!  Bamber is manipulative and persuasive, the epitome of the psychopath.  To do what he did means the man is depraved and incapable of normal human emotions.  You never knew him outside of prison unlike Julie Mugford so I have no doubt whatsoever who knew him best and who now knows the truth.

[Angelo222]

He did not phone Julie.

He was told the police where on their way.  He was told to hang back. He drove there and a police car passed him on the way, speeding by.  He had no idea what he was driving into and didn’t want to get caught speeding too.  He was completely thrown by the phone call and did what he was told to do.

Sorry but an independent witness proved you're wrong.  As for the rest...utter fairytales.

[Angelo222]

He did not phone Julie stating he was going to kill his family!

And he was overtaken by a police car.

You weren't there...Julie was.  Jeremy Bamber is a compulsive liar...need I say any more?

[Aunt Agatha]

Who’s fed her this rubbish? Oh, Jeremy, of course!

It’s embarrassing!

She clearly knows nothing at all about the Freemasons, but I do. Close family and friends are on the square: one is a master mason: and Ive read some of their book (akin to the Bible) and the words are BEAUTIFUL! The masons support many, many charities, including Great Ordham Street Hospital for children: they contribute towards helping the disadvantaged, and whilst it’s true they’ll give a helping hand to a fellow mason, it’s only done out of kindness and fellowship and they ONLY support each other in business providing it’s all legal.

They’d NEVER get involved with anyone unsavoury, and if they discovered he was they’d be thrown out their lodge. So all this talk about murders and masons it total rubbish made up by the ignorant.

You know nothing about freemasonry.

I'm limited in what I can share on here, the best examples of what goes on in the Higher Ranks have been removed  due to restrictions on free speech and censorship.

https://youtu.be/SACHXYQgHPE

[Aunt Agatha]

Hello Daisy. It's lovely that you've been such good supports for each other. It must have been very difficult time for you both. It was all a very long time ago, now, and whilst I think it's easier to evaluate a situation from a distance, sometimes the situation gets blurred.

I feel concerned that AA recalls being isolated with him -a perfect scenario for indoctrination- and then having nowhere and no one with whom she could share it with. Even counselors have the luxury(!) of a supervisor who helps them make sense of what they've heard. I'm not in any way hearing that he wanted to protect her, I think he wanted to isolate her as a way of controlling her. It most certainly made it easy for him to discard her. It sounds very much as if he'd found someone more interesting to fill the place she was vacating. However, maybe you experienced exactly the same thing and felt he was protecting you?

I'm sorry you're no longer in touch. Circumstances created a strong bond between you. Might it be worth reaching out again?

I was not isolated with him.  He did not try and indoctrinate me or brainwash me. 

I've stated early, what I am suggesting happened is my own theory.  Not Jeremy's. He didn't suggest any of this to me. In fact, as I've stated earlier in my posts, he didn't want to discuss the idea and never has.

[Holly Goodhead]

You weren't there...Julie was.  Jeremy Bamber is a compulsive liar...need I say any more?

JM wasn't there she was in London. 

JB had a different girlfriend pre and post murders neither of which had anything adverse to say about JB. I would suggest the only reason JM did is that DS Jones threatened to throw the book at her if she didn't cooperate.  This was a young woman, just turned 21 yoa, who was holed up in a police training room for days on end prevented from having any contact with the outside world, not even a solicitor or her mother.

[Aunt Agatha]

It doesn’t mention the Freemasons, Agatha 😳

I don't have time to educate you on this subject but it's all online if you did deep enough.  You won't find it on MSM either.
I looked into freemasonry about 10yrs ago and what goes on in the higher ranks is satanic. It's a sick, perverts cult that has reaped its evil beliefs and practices upon mankind with devastating consequences. 

[APRIL]

You know nothing about freemasonry.

I'm limited in what I can share on here, the best examples of what goes on in the Higher Ranks have been removed  due to restrictions on free speech and censorship.

https://youtu.be/SACHXYQgHPE

With close friends and family members who are Masons, I can't accept your denigration of them. We all know that there are rotten apples in every barrel/walk of life. NO organization is free of them. I don't accept there are more within Masons' ranks than in any other. "Old boys" networks are found everywhere. We all enjoy "mates' rates". I see nothing wrong with putting in a good word/having a good word put in. It's what happens in ALL 'clubs'. People  point others in the right direction. Having said all of that, where is the proof, other than from Jeremy's mouth, that Nevill was ever a member of that organization you claim to be behind the murders?

[Aunt Agatha]

With respect AA, that just goes to show how gullible you are and what's more, Bamber knows it.  He has spun you a yarn just like the bullshit he told Julie about a hitman and she too believed him.   

You need to read my post Very Carefully.

I have stated, he did not tell me this!
He was nervous about even discussing the idea.

It's what I believe happened. Me!