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Offline Myster

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #660 on: January 07, 2020, 07:27:42 AM »
Who could ever forget "June's cakes were to die for"?


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... and Trudi's Hereford Mess... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPnbBdgUkkI
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #661 on: January 07, 2020, 02:32:53 PM »
I don't think you will get a reply Holly, I wrote to them a couple of times re: inaccurate stuff on their site. Ended up getting a reply from Bamber who asked that I relay all questions through him.

They have really done themselves no good by slagging off a drama that hasn't even aired yet and taking personal pot shots at Carol Ann Lee. They need to look at their antics and that the carp that they have peddled in the past.

Good luck - oh and Happy New Year by the way.

Yes I hope everyone here had a good Christmas and best wishes for the New Year!

I've been hanging out on the Madeleine McCann board.  Wow such hostility among the 'supporters' (of the McCanns) and 'sceptics'.  At least here we have some friendly banter regardless of our case related views!
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Myster

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #662 on: January 07, 2020, 03:23:44 PM »
Yes I hope everyone here had a good Christmas and best wishes for the New Year!

I've been hanging out on the Madeleine McCann board.  Wow such hostility among the 'supporters' (of the McCanns) and 'sceptics'.  At least here we have some friendly banter regardless of our case related views!
Shouldn't that read 'winding up' instead?
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #663 on: January 08, 2020, 01:53:12 PM »
That's hilarious!!  @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*

If you think that’s hilarious.....



🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
2h
#whiteHouseFarm As a writer about miscarriage of justice I recognise how important integrity is to all events and all parties. I too, cannot understand Writers not even LOOKING at new evidence offered to them. #StandAgainstInjustice I also offered to help but was turned down.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1214867759420657665
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #664 on: January 08, 2020, 02:16:06 PM »
If you think that’s hilarious.....



🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
2h
#whiteHouseFarm As a writer about miscarriage of justice I recognise how important integrity is to all events and all parties. I too, cannot understand Writers not even LOOKING at new evidence offered to them. #StandAgainstInjustice I also offered to help but was turned down.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1214867759420657665

Wonder how much longer the authorities will allow Jeremy Bamber to attempt to commit innocence fraud?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #665 on: January 08, 2020, 03:46:52 PM »
If you think that’s hilarious.....



🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
2h
#whiteHouseFarm As a writer about miscarriage of justice I recognise how important integrity is to all events and all parties. I too, cannot understand Writers not even LOOKING at new evidence offered to them. #StandAgainstInjustice I also offered to help but was turned down.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1214867759420657665

Did ITV turn Michelle Diskin Bates down because they finally recognised her quite apparent lies https://jeremybamber.blogspot.com/2016/08/justice-is-never-served-by-conviction.html

Quote from: Nicholas link=topic=8


”It was well after midnight on August 6th 1985 and I couldn’t sleep. Switching on the T.V., I absent-mindedly tuned into a news channel. We were living in Co. Cork, in Southern Ireland, and I was joyfully awaiting the birth of our first child who was already overdue, making me feel restless; that was why I was up and about at such an hour.

Becoming aware of a breaking-news story I began to listen in more closely. A siege was taking place at a farmhouse in England. The broadcaster relayed that five people were inside and there was great fear for their safety. As the story unfolded it became apparent that this was an older couple. A farmer and retired Magistrate, Nevill Bamber and his wife, June; their daughter, Sheila, and her six year old twin sons. Jeremy, their son, was outside with police who were trying to communicate with someone inside the house who had been seen pacing back and forth in front of an upstairs window and carrying a firearm. The reporter said that police were reluctant to get too close to the house for fear of causing that person to become more agitated, thereby, escalating the danger to the family. I watched for an hour or so but there was no resolution and, heavily pregnant, I became exhausted and had to go off to bed.

Awaking early I was anxious for news, hopefully of a rescue, so I put the News on immediately. The siege was over, police had stormed the house and five bodies had been found inside. I was heartbroken, a whole family! My heart went out to the young man who had waited all night long with the police for news of his family; this was not what he wanted to hear.

My own child was born a few days later and I became engrossed in motherhood. It was a real shock to hear, sometime later, that the son, Jeremy Bamber, had been arrested for the killings…how was that possible when he was outside during the siege and everyone knew that? I presumed the police knew something we did not; there must have been strong evidence to convict a man of killing his entire family…I pushed my unease aside and got on with motherhood and my own life.

Since then I have revisited the facts of this case in light of so many high-profile miscarriage of justice cases coming to light, including that of my own brother, Barry George, for the murder of Jill Dando. More recently we’ve heard of the lies and cover-ups in the Hillsborough deaths and The Chilcot report exposing the same type of cover ups in the Iraqi war scandal. In the Bamber case I can find no evidence to convince me of the guilt of this man. Nothing that can account for a man languishing in jail for more than thirty years. How did a jury convict a young man without proof?

« Last Edit: January 08, 2020, 03:49:21 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #666 on: January 08, 2020, 03:54:50 PM »
Did ITV turn Michelle Diskin Bates down because they finally recognised her quite apparent lies https://jeremybamber.blogspot.com/2016/08/justice-is-never-served-by-conviction.html

🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
41m
The comments under this (inflammatory) article need to be moderated, urgently. One is certainly Hate Speech, and could lead to violence. I do not understand why there wasn’t a moderator for this article in the first place. 😡 #WhiteHouseFarm

Jeremy Bamber’s deluded cheerleaders are a disgrace – he IS guilty of monstrous White House Farm...
THE scene that greeted the police was one of almost unimaginable, blood-soaked carnage. Once officers had entered the remote Essex farmhouse on the morning of 7 August 1985, they discovered five mu…
thesun.co.uk
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1214927667394420741
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Caroline

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #667 on: January 08, 2020, 04:17:27 PM »
If you think that’s hilarious.....



🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
2h
#whiteHouseFarm As a writer about miscarriage of justice I recognise how important integrity is to all events and all parties. I too, cannot understand Writers not even LOOKING at new evidence offered to them. #StandAgainstInjustice I also offered to help but was turned down.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1214867759420657665

 @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*

Offline Nicholas

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #669 on: January 08, 2020, 07:30:57 PM »
Michelle Diskin Bates wrote the below in 2016 - suggesting the ‘1982’ is a mistake but the rest isn’t.  *&^^&

”I watched this unfold on the news throughout the night till I couldn’t stay up any longer”


”It was well after midnight on August 6th 1985 and I couldn’t sleep. Switching on the T.V., I absent-mindedly tuned into a news channel. We were living in Co. Cork, in Southern Ireland, and I was joyfully awaiting the birth of our first child who was already overdue, making me feel restless; that was why I was up and about at such an hour.

Becoming aware of a breaking-news story I began to listen in more closely. A siege was taking place at a farmhouse in England. The broadcaster relayed that five people were inside and there was great fear for their safety. As the story unfolded it became apparent that this was an older couple. A farmer and retired Magistrate, Nevill Bamber and his wife, June; their daughter, Sheila, and her six year old twin sons. Jeremy, their son, was outside with police who were trying to communicate with someone inside the house who had been seen pacing back and forth in front of an upstairs window and carrying a firearm. The reporter said that police were reluctant to get too close to the house for fear of causing that person to become more agitated, thereby, escalating the danger to the family. I watched for an hour or so but there was no resolution and, heavily pregnant, I became exhausted and had to go off to bed.

Awaking early I was anxious for news, hopefully of a rescue, so I put the News on immediately. The siege was over, police had stormed the house and five bodies had been found inside. I was heartbroken, a whole family! My heart went out to the young man who had waited all night long with the police for news of his family; this was not what he wanted to hear.

My own child was born a few days later and I became engrossed in motherhood. It was a real shock to hear, sometime later, that the son, Jeremy Bamber, had been arrested for the killings…how was that possible when he was outside during the siege and everyone knew that? I presumed the police knew something we did not; there must have been strong evidence to convict a man of killing his entire family…I pushed my unease aside and got on with motherhood and my own life.

Since then I have revisited the facts of this case in light of so many high-profile miscarriage of justice cases coming to light, including that of my own brother, Barry George, for the murder of Jill Dando. More recently we’ve heard of the lies and cover-ups in the Hillsborough deaths and The Chilcot report exposing the same type of cover ups in the Iraqi war scandal. In the Bamber case I can find no evidence to convince me of the guilt of this man. Nothing that can account for a man languishing in jail for more than thirty years. How did a jury convict a young man without proof?

https://jeremybamber.blogspot.com/2016/08/justice-is-never-served-by-conviction.html

Night Network, Night Time and Night Shift were names given to the overnight (usually between 12 and 6 am) schedule of the ITV network in the United Kingdom. The first ITV company began 24-hour broadcasting in 1986, with all of the companies broadcasting through the night by the end of 1988. At first, individual companies created their own services, however before too long, many of the smaller ITV station began simulcasting or networking services from others.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Network
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #670 on: January 08, 2020, 11:26:37 PM »
Here we go...


Emilia di Girolamo
@EmiliaDG
I have exchanged hundreds of letters and phone calls with Jeremy Bamber over the last ten years and am currently the only member of the media allowed to visit him. I have seen the new evidence and forensics reports and they are incredibly compelling

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmiliaDG/status/1214826947953516546
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #671 on: January 08, 2020, 11:42:13 PM »
Here we go...


Emilia di Girolamo
@EmiliaDG
I have exchanged hundreds of letters and phone calls with Jeremy Bamber over the last ten years and am currently the only member of the media allowed to visit him. I have seen the new evidence and forensics reports and they are incredibly compelling

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmiliaDG/status/1214826947953516546

Emilia Di Girolamo
“I don’t have a single doubt that Jeremy is innocent by Emilia Di Girolamo, Writer

During the eight years I worked in offender rehabilitation, I met many men and women convicted of murder and other very serious crimes. Some I met fleetingly, others I worked with intensively but in all cases, it was clear that the person before me was capable of committing the offence their prison file told me they had committed. Even the prisoners who claimed to be innocent victims of a ‘fit up’, were betrayed by aspects of their personality, demeanor, little signs indicative of guilt. Working inside, I quickly learned to trust my instincts. My instincts told me Jeremy was innocent even before I read the huge amount of incredibly compelling evidence proving beyond any doubt, his conviction is unsafe.

Why was I so certain? I have studied many cases of family annihilation and women who have killed their own children, something we as a nation found incomprehensible in 1985. My knowledge of these cases, and of the typical profile of a family annihilator, meant Jeremy’s case never felt quite right to me. Jeremy doesn’t fit the profile of a family annihilator, though sadly his sister Sheila did fit the profile of a mother capable of killing her children.

It is incredibly difficult to accept a woman is capable of killing her own children but the sad truth is, since the murder at White House Farm, many women have committed equally tragic and terrible murders. There have been literally thousands of cases worldwide though there are the ones that stick in your head – Susan Smith who drove her car into a lake in 1994 with her two children strapped inside, Andrea Yates, the Texas mother who drowned her five children in the bath tub in 2001. In 2009, Rekha Kumari-Baker, stabbed her teenage daughters a total of 69 times. In 2010, Brit Lianne Smith, confessed to killing her two children in a Spanish hotel room. Just this month Theresa Riggi, pleaded guilty to killing her three children.

It’s disturbing and terrifying to the national psyche but it happens.

It is exactly what I believe happened that night at White House Farm. I believe Sheila, a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic, who had been directly challenged by her parents that very evening over her parenting skills, snapped, killing her children, her parents and then herself. It isn’t just my belief - there is overwhelming evidence that Sheila was alive inside the house, while Jeremy was outside with the police for several hours, before the police broke down the door. The police log, hidden from the defense at the time of Jeremy’s trial, clearly quotes Nevill Bamber, ‘My daughter’s gone beserk, she’s got hold of one of my guns’.

I don’t work in prison anymore. I work as a TV script writer and producer, writing television drama. Jeremy’s case is so bizarre, so loaded with mistakes, cover ups and conspiracies it’s way beyond anything I would dream up at my desk. But at the heart of this case is an innocent man who has been locked up far too long. The evidence is so overwhelming, the CCRC are going to look very stupid if they reject an appeal again.

My husband and I have come to know Jeremy well and we are one hundred percent certain the man we know is not capable of killing anyone. He is an extraordinary person who continues to work relentlessly to prove his innocence. He has a remarkable spirit, a rare strength of character and is a warm, compassionate and kind human being who I am deeply privileged to know.
http://www.jeremybambertestimony.co.uk/emilia-di-girolamo
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline John

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #672 on: January 09, 2020, 12:54:50 AM »
Emilia Di Girolamo
“I don’t have a single doubt that Jeremy is innocent by Emilia Di Girolamo, Writer

During the eight years I worked in offender rehabilitation, I met many men and women convicted of murder and other very serious crimes. Some I met fleetingly, others I worked with intensively but in all cases, it was clear that the person before me was capable of committing the offence their prison file told me they had committed. Even the prisoners who claimed to be innocent victims of a ‘fit up’, were betrayed by aspects of their personality, demeanor, little signs indicative of guilt. Working inside, I quickly learned to trust my instincts. My instincts told me Jeremy was innocent even before I read the huge amount of incredibly compelling evidence proving beyond any doubt, his conviction is unsafe.

Why was I so certain? I have studied many cases of family annihilation and women who have killed their own children, something we as a nation found incomprehensible in 1985. My knowledge of these cases, and of the typical profile of a family annihilator, meant Jeremy’s case never felt quite right to me. Jeremy doesn’t fit the profile of a family annihilator, though sadly his sister Sheila did fit the profile of a mother capable of killing her children.

It is incredibly difficult to accept a woman is capable of killing her own children but the sad truth is, since the murder at White House Farm, many women have committed equally tragic and terrible murders. There have been literally thousands of cases worldwide though there are the ones that stick in your head – Susan Smith who drove her car into a lake in 1994 with her two children strapped inside, Andrea Yates, the Texas mother who drowned her five children in the bath tub in 2001. In 2009, Rekha Kumari-Baker, stabbed her teenage daughters a total of 69 times. In 2010, Brit Lianne Smith, confessed to killing her two children in a Spanish hotel room. Just this month Theresa Riggi, pleaded guilty to killing her three children.

It’s disturbing and terrifying to the national psyche but it happens.

It is exactly what I believe happened that night at White House Farm. I believe Sheila, a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic, who had been directly challenged by her parents that very evening over her parenting skills, snapped, killing her children, her parents and then herself. It isn’t just my belief - there is overwhelming evidence that Sheila was alive inside the house, while Jeremy was outside with the police for several hours, before the police broke down the door. The police log, hidden from the defense at the time of Jeremy’s trial, clearly quotes Nevill Bamber, ‘My daughter’s gone beserk, she’s got hold of one of my guns’.

I don’t work in prison anymore. I work as a TV script writer and producer, writing television drama. Jeremy’s case is so bizarre, so loaded with mistakes, cover ups and conspiracies it’s way beyond anything I would dream up at my desk. But at the heart of this case is an innocent man who has been locked up far too long. The evidence is so overwhelming, the CCRC are going to look very stupid if they reject an appeal again.

My husband and I have come to know Jeremy well and we are one hundred percent certain the man we know is not capable of killing anyone. He is an extraordinary person who continues to work relentlessly to prove his innocence. He has a remarkable spirit, a rare strength of character and is a warm, compassionate and kind human being who I am deeply privileged to know.
http://www.jeremybambertestimony.co.uk/emilia-di-girolamo

Bamber should receive an academy award for hoodwinking these gullible women.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #673 on: January 09, 2020, 07:22:48 AM »
Emilia Di Girolamo
“I don’t have a single doubt that Jeremy is innocent by Emilia Di Girolamo, Writer

During the eight years I worked in offender rehabilitation, I met many men and women convicted of murder and other very serious crimes. Some I met fleetingly, others I worked with intensively but in all cases, it was clear that the person before me was capable of committing the offence their prison file told me they had committed. Even the prisoners who claimed to be innocent victims of a ‘fit up’, were betrayed by aspects of their personality, demeanor, little signs indicative of guilt. Working inside, I quickly learned to trust my instincts. My instincts told me Jeremy was innocent even before I read the huge amount of incredibly compelling evidence proving beyond any doubt, his conviction is unsafe.

Why was I so certain? I have studied many cases of family annihilation and women who have killed their own children, something we as a nation found incomprehensible in 1985. My knowledge of these cases, and of the typical profile of a family annihilator, meant Jeremy’s case never felt quite right to me. Jeremy doesn’t fit the profile of a family annihilator, though sadly his sister Sheila did fit the profile of a mother capable of killing her children.

It is incredibly difficult to accept a woman is capable of killing her own children but the sad truth is, since the murder at White House Farm, many women have committed equally tragic and terrible murders. There have been literally thousands of cases worldwide though there are the ones that stick in your head – Susan Smith who drove her car into a lake in 1994 with her two children strapped inside, Andrea Yates, the Texas mother who drowned her five children in the bath tub in 2001. In 2009, Rekha Kumari-Baker, stabbed her teenage daughters a total of 69 times. In 2010, Brit Lianne Smith, confessed to killing her two children in a Spanish hotel room. Just this month Theresa Riggi, pleaded guilty to killing her three children.

It’s disturbing and terrifying to the national psyche but it happens.

It is exactly what I believe happened that night at White House Farm. I believe Sheila, a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic, who had been directly challenged by her parents that very evening over her parenting skills, snapped, killing her children, her parents and then herself. It isn’t just my belief - there is overwhelming evidence that Sheila was alive inside the house, while Jeremy was outside with the police for several hours, before the police broke down the door. The police log, hidden from the defense at the time of Jeremy’s trial, clearly quotes Nevill Bamber, ‘My daughter’s gone beserk, she’s got hold of one of my guns’.

I don’t work in prison anymore. I work as a TV script writer and producer, writing television drama. Jeremy’s case is so bizarre, so loaded with mistakes, cover ups and conspiracies it’s way beyond anything I would dream up at my desk. But at the heart of this case is an innocent man who has been locked up far too long. The evidence is so overwhelming, the CCRC are going to look very stupid if they reject an appeal again.

My husband and I have come to know Jeremy well and we are one hundred percent certain the man we know is not capable of killing anyone. He is an extraordinary person who continues to work relentlessly to prove his innocence. He has a remarkable spirit, a rare strength of character and is a warm, compassionate and kind human being who I am deeply privileged to know.
http://www.jeremybambertestimony.co.uk/emilia-di-girolamo
How does she explain the lack of gunfire heard by the police outside the house if sheila was still alive inside?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #674 on: January 09, 2020, 09:15:13 AM »
If you think that’s hilarious.....



🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
2h
#whiteHouseFarm As a writer about miscarriage of justice I recognise how important integrity is to all events and all parties. I too, cannot understand Writers not even LOOKING at new evidence offered to them. #StandAgainstInjustice I also offered to help but was turned down.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1214867759420657665

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@ProfLizYardley
 
@melville72
 and
@ITV
#WhiteHouseFarm I Have researched this case. You will find all the information you need to make an informed decision http://Jeremy-Bamber.co.uk Please take the time to read up before jumping to conclusions, it would be appreciated.


Why does Michelle Diskin Bates promote her own book in her brothers case yet in the Bamber case not mention Colin Caffell or Carol Ann Lees books?

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation