The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[adam]

It seems LW has migrated to IA.  Although LW does claim to he neutral.

What is IA ?

[Holly Goodhead]

What is IA ?

Maybe I should have said wandered off...

IA is Injustice Anywhere forum.

There's a thread on JB:

http://www.injusticeanywhereforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=2931

[adam]

Thanks. He obviously didn't like the Blue & Red forums.

[Holly Goodhead]

Thanks. He obviously didn't like the Blue & Red forums.

He/she still has an account here so may wander back over. 

[adam]

He/she still has an account here so may wander back over.

He's well away on the IA forum. Seven of the last 11 posts were his trademark long posts. No one is disagreeing. Because no one is reading them.

A bit like on the Blue/Red forums, with the exception of his Sheila scenario thread. My response upsetting him so much that he left !

[Nicholas]

What a chancer! Watch psycho Mike Tesco jump on the band wagon.

http://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/16178432.Convicted_killer_asks_for_evidence_to_be_disclosed_to_allow_for_third_appeal/#comments-anchor

In a letter sent from HMP Wakefield, a Category A prison where Bamber is serving a full life tariff, he said:

"Once the CPS formally disclose these documents it is an admission Essex Police took two silencers to the lab for examination, both had areas of blood staining on them and both were ruled irrelevant to the inquiry.

“Sue Hemming has to conceded to the Criminal Cases Reviews Commission the CPS can no longer sustain my conviction and my case must be fast tracked to the Court of Appeal. The CPS cannot sustain my conviction now the second silencer should have been known to the jury.”

[Caroline]

What a chancer?

http://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/16178432.Convicted_killer_asks_for_evidence_to_be_disclosed_to_allow_for_third_appeal/#comments-anchor

In a letter sent from HMP Wakefield, a Category A prison where Bamber is serving a full life tariff, he said:

"Once the CPS formally disclose these documents it is an admission Essex Police took two silencers to the lab for examination, both had areas of blood staining on them and both were ruled irrelevant to the inquiry.

“Sue Hemming has to conceded to the Criminal Cases Reviews Commission the CPS can no longer sustain my conviction and my case must be fast tracked to the Court of Appeal. The CPS cannot sustain my conviction now the second silencer should have been known to the jury.”

Ha, ha! I thought they had NEW evidence to prove his innocence?

[Nicholas]

Ha, ha! I thought they had NEW evidence to prove his innocence?

Don't 

What an utter moron!

[Nicholas]

What a chancer! Watch psycho Mike Tesco jump on the band wagon.

http://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/16178432.Convicted_killer_asks_for_evidence_to_be_disclosed_to_allow_for_third_appeal/#comments-anchor

In a letter sent from HMP Wakefield, a Category A prison where Bamber is serving a full life tariff, he said:

"Once the CPS formally disclose these documents it is an admission Essex Police took two silencers to the lab for examination, both had areas of blood staining on them and both were ruled irrelevant to the inquiry.

“Sue Hemming has to conceded to the Criminal Cases Reviews Commission the CPS can no longer sustain my conviction and my case must be fast tracked to the Court of Appeal. The CPS cannot sustain my conviction now the second silencer should have been known to the jury.”

"However, Bamber is contesting the sound moderator evidence and is calling for disclosure of information.

Bamber, 57, says there is evidence more than one sound moderator was examined and the findings were merged - and as such contaminated - before being presented at trial.

[adam]

"However, Bamber is contesting the sound moderator evidence and is calling for disclosure of information.

Bamber, 57, says there is evidence more than one sound moderator was examined and the findings were merged - and as such contaminated - before being presented at trial.

I wonder how he worked this out, after 33 years. Espescially if documents are being withheld.  Or is he just saying this to keep his supporters morale up ?

What happened to all the donations for forensic tests ?

Findings merged. Is he accusing the police of a frame. Although he says both moderators had blood staining on them.

Hopefully some more information on how it was easier to fabricate the moderator evidence by using two moderators will be released. Rather than just claiming two were used.

[Caroline]

What a chancer! Watch psycho Mike Tesco jump on the band wagon.

http://www.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/16178432.Convicted_killer_asks_for_evidence_to_be_disclosed_to_allow_for_third_appeal/#comments-anchor

In a letter sent from HMP Wakefield, a Category A prison where Bamber is serving a full life tariff, he said:

"Once the CPS formally disclose these documents it is an admission Essex Police took two silencers to the lab for examination, both had areas of blood staining on them and both were ruled irrelevant to the inquiry.

“Sue Hemming has to conceded to the Criminal Cases Reviews Commission the CPS can no longer sustain my conviction and my case must be fast tracked to the Court of Appeal. The CPS cannot sustain my conviction now the second silencer should have been known to the jury.”

CT Anthem? 

[Nicholas]

I wonder if this is what Jeremy Bamber tells his supporters and hence why they produce it?

"If this woman had a conscience she would not trade a man's life for money. Most of us equate silence with guilt"
https://mobile.twitter.com/FreeBamberNow/status/988038037488721920

They are of course referring to another of Bamber's vicitims, JM.

[Nicholas]

http://jerseyabusescandal.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/who-is-sarah-hanover-ask-mike-tesko-and.html

"Hello David,

Thank you for your email.

I'm not entirely sure what you would like to contribute, so I will respond to some of the points you made and maybe we could take it from there?
But I would ask you to keep the Mugford/Eaton matter private. This information has not been revealed and Jeremy does not wish it to be made public.

Do you want your identity to remain confidential from everyone including Jeremy and his lawyers and talk to me alone for the time being? You say you dont want to hide your identity but I would like to clairfy this just to be cautious. . . . Talking to Jeremy on the phone involves the prison authorities listening in.

If you can tell us something about the connection between Mugford and the Eatons that would be interesting but there would be a limit on how much it could help Jeremy's case. Jeremy has fully discussed his case with us but we keep key information confidential this is why it is not mentioned on our web sites. 

I am quite sure that the Eatons and Boutflour's know that 'the game is up' and the discovery by the Defence of what actually happened with the sound moderator has frightened them and that would be a good reason to move I am sure.

The Home Secretary set Jeremy's whole life tariff after the original sentencing and this is in breach of ECHR regulations they would not allow the case in their court if this was incorrect as it is NOT illegal to set whole life tariff when sentencing.

Just to note, we are not 'friends' of anyone involved in the campaign, including Jeremy and we work for him in a professional capacity he is our client and we provide consulting services for him pro bono in the pursuit of justice.

We have no involvement with Mike Tesko - I would term him as a 'crank'. I can also assure you that Jeremy feels exactly the same and has no contact with this man. We would ask you to never reveal the details we have discussed as this is information we do not want revealed.

If you think we have been misled you may be right, I dont know I was not around in Essex and did not associate with Jeremy Bamber. Nevertheless what we are interested in is  evidence or witness testimony or anything that can lead us to those.

Thanks for taking the time to write to us about the case and it is much appreciated and if you think you can provide any information which might help I would be more than willing to listen if you want to email or call me either is fine.

Kindest regards,

Sarah Hanover.

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What I don't understand is why the prison and probation services don't intervene and stop Bamber from his quite apparent grooming and abuse of people like Sarah Hanover.

Why are the prison turning a blind eye? Infact why is the State turning a blind eye?

[Holly Goodhead]

Ha, ha! I thought they had NEW evidence to prove his innocence?

I posted about this recently:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=468.msg454312#msg454312

It has as much chance of success as David's 'FEB' ie ZERO.

At the 2002 appeal MT tried to argue the hand swabs were swapped and the appeal judges simply batted it away:

Points 175 - 213

http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

[adam]

I posted about this recently:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=468.msg454312#msg454312

It has as much chance of success as David's 'FEB' ie ZERO.

At the 2002 appeal MT tried to argue the hand swabs were swapped and the appeal judges simply batted it away:

Points 175 - 213

http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

What is the biggest piece of released & accepted evidence that makes you believe Bamber is innocent ?

Supporters spend most of their time disputing the evidence that makes him guilty.