The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[puglove]

Phew glad I’m out, didn’t realise it was that bad, when she used to be attacked I would pm her, feeling sorry for her and wanted to help her, strange thing was, when Tesco attacked me Nothing in return,   Me and Sami both sent her pms feeling sorry for her, I felt so let down when I left.

Nobody is so disliked without reason, Justice.

[Real justice]

Any opportunity to campaign! The book was only released on July 30th 2015 and someone reviewed it on that very day. They obviously studied it well. Most of these  negative reviews were written witin months of the release date which means they couldn't wait to slag it off. Altogether everyone! 

Mmm reminds me of a forum I was on.  What amazed me, one minute they thought Bamber was guilty, the next you would get verbal with a passion-about how innocent he was 

[Alice]

Where are these book reviews? I can only find a few on Good Reads all moaning about how much detail there is!

[Real justice]

Where are these book reviews? I can only find a few on Good Reads all moaning about how much detail there is!

On Amazon Alice

[Nicholas]

With the best will in the world, I just don't see how ANYNONE could conceive this as a good idea. IF Bamber were ever exonerated, then fine, vistit the grave privately but to enter into his ghoulish charade, using the dead victims as promotioal exercise just shows A. that he is devoid of understanding solical norms and B. that he is ill advised by the CT - who (with such stupid stunts - no pun intended!) are making him look guiltier than ever!

It's no wonder that they disabled the comments on Youtube!

By the way, anyone looking for a good laugh should read the comments from those who rated 1 or 2 stars for CAL's book on Amazon! They're all there ...... campaigning and dredging up myth and fantasy - opportunits!    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Murders-White-House-Farm-investigation-ebook/product-reviews/B00UXKJ0SA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews&pageNumber=1#reviews-filter-bar

Bill doesn't sound too happy!

29th October 2015 - Bill Robertson
"If you enjoy a work of fiction, then this book is for you. However, if you want factual reporting with a high degree of accuracy, and if you want to evaluate the evidence and then make your own mind up, you will be misinformed by this book. For, it is pretty much a work of fiction.
If zero stars was possible, this book would merit zero. It is so disappointing that in 2015, with 30 years worth of important new material to reference, the author has relied primarily on discredited police sources that were compiled in 1986, e.g. the Dickinson report, which whitewashed police incompetence.Reading this book made me wonder if Essex Police paid for it to be written.
The murder scenario depicted by the author at the end of the book is laughable. For example, "Jeremy then forced Sheila down beside the bed and shot her once in the throat" What?
There is no evidence at all that Sheila was forced to the floor. According to pathologist Dr Vanezis her body bore no marks of a struggle whatsoever. So, she was not forced down beside the bed. Which leads to the next question. How did Jeremy Bamber with just words persuade his sister to lie down on the floor while he shot her, with the implied threat that he would kill her sons, if she did not already know they were dead? You can’t just shrug your shoulders and say, “Well he must have persuaded her somehow” that is not good enough. Think about it until you come up with a plausible explanation. You will have a long wait.
Another point to ponder. If Jeremy was so persuasive that he was able to convince Sheila to lie down and be killed by him, why did he not also persuade her to write a suicide note? Surely it would be easy to achieve for someone as cunning as Jeremy was made out to be? There is no logical reason why Sheila would have refused to do so if she was going to allow herself to be killed. If you believe Jeremy to be guilty then try to explain why he would have overlooked this obvious ploy.
How come three adults could not overpower one man? he could only point a rifle and shoot at one adult at a time.
If you are going to claim to produce a definitive account then you have to go beyond rehashing myths that were exposed as false years ago. For example, "Nevill was extremely safety conscious with guns". No, sadly he wasn't. If you take police reports at face value, you can believe this tripe, but read the trial testimony of Bamber's relatives, who describe guns being left in the bathroom or toilet or under the beds at White House Farm. There are crime scene photographs showing shotguns in the toilet. A loaded shotgun was kept in the bedroom for shooting at foxes.
One more example; how can you claim to write the definitive investigation without even mentioning that PC's Cracknell and Norcup were the first police officers to be sent to White House Farm by PC West at Chelmsford police station, five minutes before Jeremy telephoned the police. How can you not speculate why they drove there so slowly, taking 50 minutes to arrive? Perhaps they drove so slowly because they were responding to the call to PC West from Nevill Bamber and he did not convey any urgency in his phone call?
How about mentioning that there is unambiguous evidence that there are two different versions of PC West's incident recording message log; one clearly a forgery? Why not speculate on the reasons for needing to forge police documentation?
This is not a "definitive" account, it is not even a thorough account. It is nowhere near as good as a couple of other books on the subject, for example Scott Lomax's work. It barely considers much of the evidence of Jeremy's innocence that is contained on the Jeremy Bamber campaign website. So, it is very disappointing to read a book claiming so much and delivering so little.
By the way, Jeremy Bamber is innocent.



Bill posted on blue:
"Apologies, I didn't know I was meant to log in here first.
I have studied the first 2 hours of the case for the past 3 years; just the first 2 hours!
Finding out everything possible about what happened, particularly in relation to the police and trying to figure out which of my ex-colleagues have been economical with the truth, or supremely inventive.
I got interested because casting a professional eye over the case it was obvious where the lies were. Proving that they are lies takes a bit more effort.
Jeremy Bamber is innocent. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5568.msg243277.html#msg243277

[Nicholas]

Trudi Benjamin's "hero" Mike Tesco states: "I am no mug!!  !  Muggy Mike 
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9435.msg438954.html#msg438954

[Nicholas]

Yet more threats 

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9435.msg438961.html#msg438961
Online mike tesko
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
 Re: Witness Statement of Doris Theresa TWEED - June Concerned about Sheila...
« Reply #32 on: Today at 06:26 PM »
"I would 'gladly' and 'personally' hang every last one of these lying police officers, it's 'out of order', and the lot of them are 's..m' of the earth...
« Last Edit: Today at 06:27 PM by mike tesko »

[Nicholas]

Trudi Benjamin's "hero" Mike Tesco states: "I am no mug!!  !  Muggy Mike 
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9435.msg438954.html#msg438954

He claims: "I know what I am talking about, I have helped hundreds of victims prove their innocence in a variety of miscarriages of justice...  http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9435.msg438945.html#msg438945

What a moron!

[Angelo222]

He claims: "I know what I am talking about, I have helped hundreds of victims prove their innocence in a variety of miscarriages of justice...  http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9435.msg438945.html#msg438945

What a moron!

He's a fantasist.

[Angelo222]

Yet more threats 

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9435.msg438961.html#msg438961
Online mike tesko
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
 Re: Witness Statement of Doris Theresa TWEED - June Concerned about Sheila...
« Reply #32 on: Today at 06:26 PM »
"I would 'gladly' and 'personally' hang every last one of these lying police officers, it's 'out of order', and the lot of them are 's..m' of the earth...
« Last Edit: Today at 06:27 PM by mike tesko »

I don't know why Essex Police haven't arrested that idiot by now.  Even the criminals hate a snitch.

[Real justice]

I don't know why Essex Police haven't arrested that idiot by now.  Even the criminals hate a snitch.

I think everyone leaves him alone, for the simple reason, he does more harm for Bamber than good, everyone  leaves his forum convinced of guilt.   

[Nicholas]

Lookout is a real nasty piece of work, and extremely dishonest, how many times has she posted something and then denied it? She's also proven herself to be racist and homophobic, just a spewer of negativity and hate - but it's all okay because she hides behind a username.

I think you were more than fair and balanced with her with some of the little stunts she attempted to pull on you and Caroline during your time together (She once even accused Caroline of trying to hack her email which is what ModMaggie once tried to pull on me.)

You had the patience of a saint.

NGB states:
"Please avoid language which is likely to offend other forum members, in particular avoiding language of an obscene or profane nature, or containing any racist, sexist or homophobic element. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1838.msg56929.html#msg56929

[adam]

Moderators have also repeatedly said posters should 'focus on the post & not the poster'.

However when I asked about David's goading cartoons, posters, images & 'gish gash' posts, I got stone walled.

Again, David wisely did some brown nosing with his 'forensic evidence breakthrough' shortly after changing stance.

[Real justice]

Thanks Roch,  . I’ve no gripe with you

I chose Real Justice because, it seems someone has my name Justice that’s all? 

[adam]

I don't know why Essex Police haven't arrested that idiot by now.  Even the criminals hate a snitch.

Mike's, Nugs, Lookout's & Nigel's posts will prevent a lot of new people from becoming supporters. Which is why Bamber wanted the forum shut down.

David's forum role as Bamber fire fighter has now gone unless he starts disagreeing with fellow supporters. But the moderators won't let him use his images on supporters.

JackieD says Bamber is guilty because Julie identified the twins. Roch's main argument is he says he's seen evidence which 'shows Sheila is definately the killer'. But won't say whether Bamber has this evidence.

People taking a new interest in the case are just as likely to stumble across the Blue forum, as they are to view the OS.