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Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #585 on: May 15, 2018, 07:38:34 PM »
That lot are exploiting the name of Martin Luther King now on Bamber Twits!  @)(++(* @)(++(*

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For God's sake! Just how deep will they scrape? Next we hear, they'll be putting him forward as Pope.

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Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #586 on: May 15, 2018, 09:04:13 PM »

For God's sake! Just how deep will they scrape? Next we hear, they'll be putting him forward as Pope.
Found this from someone April

Although white posh boy Bamber can't be pushed as a victim of racism or some other prejudice, like Ted Bundy, he has his groupies, although unlike Bundy they come in both sexes and apparently over a fair sprinkling of age groups. And they like Bamber are not shy about telling outright lies or peddling nonsense.
The police turned up at the property without any real understanding of what they were facing. They had only Bamber's word for what had happened inside the house, and for all they knew he could have been high on drugs, or the victim of a sick practical joke.
They assumed, indeed had to assume, that there were people alive inside, and that there was a hostage situation, so they shouted into the house. And of course, nobody shouted back. A police telephonist miles away entered in his log words to the effect that the officers had arrived and had made contact with someone inside the house, that they had started a conversation. This telephonist was telling the truth as he saw it, but unfortunately for Bamber if not for justice, shouting into a morgue does not constitute a conversation.


 

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Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #587 on: May 16, 2018, 07:39:00 AM »
Found this from someone April

Although white posh boy Bamber can't be pushed as a victim of racism or some other prejudice, like Ted Bundy, he has his groupies, although unlike Bundy they come in both sexes and apparently over a fair sprinkling of age groups. And they like Bamber are not shy about telling outright lies or peddling nonsense.
The police turned up at the property without any real understanding of what they were facing. They had only Bamber's word for what had happened inside the house, and for all they knew he could have been high on drugs, or the victim of a sick practical joke.
They assumed, indeed had to assume, that there were people alive inside, and that there was a hostage situation, so they shouted into the house. And of course, nobody shouted back. A police telephonist miles away entered in his log words to the effect that the officers had arrived and had made contact with someone inside the house, that they had started a conversation. This telephonist was telling the truth as he saw it, but unfortunately for Bamber if not for justice, shouting into a morgue does not constitute a conversation.

Exactly so, RJ.................which makes desperate and pathetically close to paranoia the ever louder claims that
 Stephen Kavanagh is responsible for the perceived wrongs of Essex Police, and "c.k.S". Puts me in mind of Bill Clinton who claimed not to have had "sex with that woman" and a child, mouth smeared with chocolate and swearing not to have eaten any. We KNOW the investigation was ballsed up. Police have their own responsibility in that. However, from the off, they only had Jeremy's word for what was likely to have transpired -and why. They either accepted what he said as gospel truth -at a time when they had nothing else to go on- OR disregarded everything he said. A chance they couldn't afford to take. Seems to me they may have been damned either way. They did it themselves or they allowed Jeremy to do it.
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Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #588 on: May 16, 2018, 09:04:04 PM »
Nigel is talking to himself again.

David attempted a quiet stance change because he didn't have a reason for his change. Then wisely kept his distance from the other supporters such as Nigel & Roch as they make Bamber look more guilty.

Apart from posting isolated sources sometimes, he saw his role in life as the Blue forums 'Bamber protector'. Surfacing on the forum to focus on guilters rather their posts whenever a guilter posted. Not sure why.

Now that role is no longer needed he will choose a new role outside of Bamber's CT. Again, not sure why.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #589 on: May 17, 2018, 07:44:04 PM »
It is bollox!
« Last Edit: May 18, 2018, 06:45:53 PM by Caroline »

Offline adam

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #590 on: May 18, 2018, 04:12:06 PM »
Talking of Roch, it seems the mysterious evidence he had seen, which showed 'Sheila is definately the killer' was this -



As you know already, it was evidence of Sheila having been in a violent struggle with the other two adults.  All three adult victims sustained attack/defence wounds which are not referred to by PV.  I also mentioned the earring, also not referred to by PV.  You were given a snippet (back of Sheila's right hand), which I think was quite generous. 


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Think it was better to keep it mysterious. 

Offline Caroline

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #591 on: May 18, 2018, 04:49:25 PM »
Talking of Roch, it seems the mysterious evidence he had seen, which showed 'Sheila is definately the killer' was this -



As you know already, it was evidence of Sheila having been in a violent struggle with the other two adults.  All three adult victims sustained attack/defence wounds which are not referred to by PV.  I also mentioned the earring, also not referred to by PV.  You were given a snippet (back of Sheila's right hand), which I think was quite generous.


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Think it was better to keep it mysterious.

Well, we've already argued this out, there was no reason for PV not to note such injuries when he noted old scars. Also, I can see no earring on her nightdress and her earring were all accounted for. Jeremy said she was wearing a 'purple stud' on the night of the murders, that's some recollection given that he can't remember times or who he called first!

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Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #592 on: May 18, 2018, 05:23:37 PM »
Well, we've already argued this out, there was no reason for PV not to note such injuries when he noted old scars. Also, I can see no earring on her nightdress and her earring were all accounted for. Jeremy said she was wearing a 'purple stud' on the night of the murders, that's some recollection given that he can't remember times or who he called first!

Hasn't it only just been recalled -perhaps thanks to the recent suggestion of an accomplice assisting Sheila- that Jeremy was quite explicit about a certain Ralph Neville being knowledgeable about fire arms and being involved in a murder in his home in South Africa involving them. MORE, he was wanted for questioning. Strange then, that he was allegedly headed back to that country, surreptitiously escaping this one.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #593 on: May 18, 2018, 06:46:19 PM »
Hasn't it only just been recalled -perhaps thanks to the recent suggestion of an accomplice assisting Sheila- that Jeremy was quite explicit about a certain Ralph Neville being knowledgeable about fire arms and being involved in a murder in his home in South Africa involving them. MORE, he was wanted for questioning. Strange then, that he was allegedly headed back to that country, surreptitiously escaping this one.

Refer to post 591  8((()*/

Offline Caroline

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #594 on: May 19, 2018, 05:54:09 PM »
Hope is what you stole from two six year old boys!

Offline John

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #595 on: May 20, 2018, 05:11:22 PM »
Found this from someone April

Although white posh boy Bamber can't be pushed as a victim of racism or some other prejudice, like Ted Bundy, he has his groupies, although unlike Bundy they come in both sexes and apparently over a fair sprinkling of age groups. And they like Bamber are not shy about telling outright lies or peddling nonsense.
The police turned up at the property without any real understanding of what they were facing. They had only Bamber's word for what had happened inside the house, and for all they knew he could have been high on drugs, or the victim of a sick practical joke.
They assumed, indeed had to assume, that there were people alive inside, and that there was a hostage situation, so they shouted into the house. And of course, nobody shouted back. A police telephonist miles away entered in his log words to the effect that the officers had arrived and had made contact with someone inside the house, that they had started a conversation. This telephonist was telling the truth as he saw it, but unfortunately for Bamber if not for justice, shouting into a morgue does not constitute a conversation.

Excellent point.  Normal procedure in such incidents dictates that the senior officer on site gives regular advisements to HQ of the ongoing situation so that further resources can be readied or deployed if necessary.  No doubt the information that officers were attempting to make contact with those inside the farmhouse was slightly misconstrued in the heat of the moment.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. John Lamberton exposes malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline John

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #596 on: May 20, 2018, 05:12:42 PM »
Hope is what you stole from two six year old boys!

Absolutely true.   8((()*/
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. John Lamberton exposes malfeasance by public officials.
Check out my website >   http://johnlamberton.webs.com/index.htm?no_redirect=true     The truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #597 on: May 20, 2018, 06:30:42 PM »
Found this from someone April

Although white posh boy Bamber can't be pushed as a victim of racism or some other prejudice, like Ted Bundy, he has his groupies, although unlike Bundy they come in both sexes and apparently over a fair sprinkling of age groups. And they like Bamber are not shy about telling outright lies or peddling nonsense.
The police turned up at the property without any real understanding of what they were facing. They had only Bamber's word for what had happened inside the house, and for all they knew he could have been high on drugs, or the victim of a sick practical joke.
They assumed, indeed had to assume, that there were people alive inside, and that there was a hostage situation, so they shouted into the house. And of course, nobody shouted back. A police telephonist miles away entered in his log words to the effect that the officers had arrived and had made contact with someone inside the house, that they had started a conversation. This telephonist was telling the truth as he saw it, but unfortunately for Bamber if not for justice, shouting into a morgue does not constitute a conversation.

Hi Justice, actually it's much simpler than that. There was no mistake and the lods described what happened. The logs never said that they were in conversation with someone inside the house, they said they were in conversation with 'a person' from inside the 'farm. They were, the raid team were in conversation with Jeremy and their WS back this up. They was 'in conversation with Jeremy, just before making the challenge to the house where it is logged 'challenge to 'persons' inside the house were met with no response'. These words have simply been manipulated by Bamber and his supporters.

Online APRIL

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #598 on: May 20, 2018, 06:53:44 PM »
Hi Justice, actually it's much simpler than that. There was no mistake and the lods described what happened. The logs never said that they were in conversation with someone inside the house, they said they were in conversation with 'a person' from inside the 'farm. They were, the raid team were in conversation with Jeremy and their WS back this up. They was 'in conversation with Jeremy, just before making the challenge to the house where it is logged 'challenge to 'persons' inside the house were met with no response'. These words have simply been manipulated by Bamber and his supporters.

One is left to wonder who it was who might have been 'clever' enough to point that possible 'get out of jail' loop-hole to him?

Offline Caroline

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #599 on: May 21, 2018, 12:00:54 PM »
More silly questions by the CT

Why was the log referring to Jeremy's call never shown to the jury
- IT WAS READ OUT BY WEST AND DISCUSSED IN DETAIL DURING THE TRIAL. The CT are trying to make it sound as though the llog was withheld - IT WASN'T!

Why did the police dispatch more than one car? Because they were sent in response to different calls! CA5 was sent in response to West's call to Witham, West radioed Witham after talking to Bonnett at HQ. Bonnett organises CA7 (Bews, Saxby and Myall). Both cars were sent from Witham, however, the likelyhood is that CA5 didn't actually set off until later because Bews in CA7, went to the scene. Both CA5 and CA6 arrived at WHF at 04:23 and most likely set off together when it was discovered the incident was serious.

What happened to the emergency call tapes? What emergency call tapes? Why would there be emergency call tapes? West didn't call the emergency number to contact HQ - he called on an inernal line - oh and Nevile didn't call at all.
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