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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #720 on: January 21, 2020, 01:37:14 PM »
If you propagate your deceitful message long enough and loud enough, the gullible will begin to believe it...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7910941/Jeremy-Bamber-speaks-prison-say-ultimate-alibi-White-House-Farm-murders.html

I’ve no doubts whatsoever this is a clear example of ‘innocent fraud.’

The question is are all those involved doing it knowingly or unknowingly?
« Last Edit: January 21, 2020, 01:59:16 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #721 on: January 21, 2020, 04:32:24 PM »
I’ve no doubts whatsoever this is a clear example of ‘innocent fraud.’

12 examples of ‘innocent fraud’ can be seen on Jeremy Bamber’s campaign website here https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/-sheila

Meaning of ‘Innocent fraud’ in the above context

‘a lie or a half-truth that, because it suits the needs or views of those promoting the propaganda, is presented as fact. After much repetition, the fiction becomes common wisdom. ‘It is innocent because most who employ it are without conscious guilt,’ (Galbraith wrote in 1999*) ‘It is fraud because it is quietly in the service of special interest - in this case in the interest of psychopathic Jeremy Bamber in an attempt to have his murder convictions deemed unsafe

* https://www.collinsdictionary.com/submission/17851/innocent+fraud
« Last Edit: January 21, 2020, 04:42:07 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #722 on: January 22, 2020, 09:10:32 AM »
Solicitor advocate Mark Newby stated,

Dec 2019
in view of pending judicial review proceedings there will be no further comment”

&

Jan 2020
We will not be making any further comment in view of the ongoing case before the Court “

and now he’s apparently saying,

“Because I haven’t received evidence that contradicts it, I can’t necessarily say it isn’t anything other than it was Sheila.

These things shouldn’t have been happening at those times if it was Jeremy. So it causes a real worry.”


Messy

‘Asked how he felt about the current series, Bamber said: "The ITV drama is a disgrace.

It is being broadcast in the middle of a judicial review and is likely to interfere with the CPS being able to pursue the option of a retrial.

"It is promoted as 'a drama' as Carol Ann Lee's book that it's based upon is, for the most part, simply made up."

Author Ms Lee, who handed over all her research notes to ITV for the company's work with the drama, said: "I fully appreciate he'll have an opinion on it, but it's just not true to say it's speculation," she said.

"Everything in the book is meticulously footnoted, there is a very small piece of speculation at the end when I discuss how the murders could have been carried out but I make it very clear that that is the case.

It {the series] is actually very fair to him. It's the story of his conviction and not the story of how he killed his family.

"The people making the decisions about Jeremy's future are not going to be swayed or influenced by how he is portrayed in an ITV drama."
https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/white-house-farm-labelled-a-disgrace-by-jeremy-bamber-1-6476355
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #723 on: January 22, 2020, 10:12:48 AM »
‘Asked how he felt about the current series, Bamber said: "The ITV drama is a disgrace.

It is being broadcast in the middle of a judicial review and is likely to interfere with the CPS being able to pursue the option of a retrial.

"It is promoted as 'a drama' as Carol Ann Lee's book that it's based upon is, for the most part, simply made up."
https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/white-house-farm-labelled-a-disgrace-by-jeremy-bamber-1-6476355

From 2016
Insp Cornish said Bamber was "well aware of the legal processes that he should follow to seek a review of his convictions".
"His attempt at circumnavigating the formal process using the media and websites is ill-conceived," the letter continued.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-35932802

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #724 on: January 22, 2020, 11:48:28 AM »
‘Asked how he felt about the current series, Bamber said: "The ITV drama is a disgrace.

It is being broadcast in the middle of a judicial review and is likely to interfere with the CPS being able to pursue the option of a retrial.

"It is promoted as 'a drama' as Carol Ann Lee's book that it's based upon is, for the most part, simply made up."

Author Ms Lee, who handed over all her research notes to ITV for the company's work with the drama, said: "I fully appreciate he'll have an opinion on it, but it's just not true to say it's speculation," she said.

"Everything in the book is meticulously footnoted, there is a very small piece of speculation at the end when I discuss how the murders could have been carried out but I make it very clear that that is the case.

It {the series] is actually very fair to him. It's the story of his conviction and not the story of how he killed his family.

"The people making the decisions about Jeremy's future are not going to be swayed or influenced by how he is portrayed in an ITV drama."
https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/white-house-farm-labelled-a-disgrace-by-jeremy-bamber-1-6476355

He can hardly call the Itv series a disgrace given his bake-off and graveside reading.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #725 on: January 24, 2020, 07:56:36 PM »
Gringo on blue claims, ‘newspapers use these linguistic tricks to deceive’

As do murderers like Jeremy Bamber

Maybe Gringo can give us all a lesson on how laws are created and changed and new precedents set

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #726 on: January 24, 2020, 07:58:28 PM »
He can hardly call the Itv series a disgrace given his bake-off and graveside reading.

It was Trudi Benjamin who gave the ‘graveside reading’ and the CT who appear to have organised the bake off - the CT which Trudi Benjamin is a part of
« Last Edit: January 24, 2020, 08:55:05 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #727 on: January 25, 2020, 01:00:50 AM »
Gringo on blue claims, ‘newspapers use these linguistic tricks to deceive’

As do murderers like Jeremy Bamber

Maybe Gringo can give us all a lesson on how laws are created and changed and new precedents set

In the meantime https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=140724630727937&id=110855557048178&ref=page_internal

Carol Ann Lee states clearly,

his campaign team have claimed he only wrote a handful of letters in return. Not true: I have a huge amount of letters from him...”
« Last Edit: January 25, 2020, 01:05:30 AM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Myster

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #728 on: January 25, 2020, 05:05:45 AM »
In the meantime https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=140724630727937&id=110855557048178&ref=page_internal

Carol Ann Lee states clearly,

his campaign team have claimed he only wrote a handful of letters in return. Not true: I have a huge amount of letters from him...”
Good find!   Well done to CAL for putting the record straight.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Myster

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #729 on: January 25, 2020, 07:20:11 AM »
Caroline!  Tell gringo to put a plug in his pretentious garbage before he makes himself look like a complete idiot.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline puglove

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #730 on: January 25, 2020, 08:45:22 AM »
Caroline!  Tell gringo to put a plug in his pretentious garbage before he makes himself look like a complete idiot.

That ship sailed a while ago.

 8(8-))
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #731 on: January 25, 2020, 08:49:57 AM »
It was Trudi Benjamin who gave the ‘graveside reading’ and the CT who appear to have organised the bake off - the CT which Trudi Benjamin is a part of

She claims the letter she was reading from JB.  If this is so he clearly endorsed the whole thing:

https://youtu.be/ZsUyH-5t3S4
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Myster

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #732 on: January 25, 2020, 08:50:55 AM »
That ship sailed a while ago.

 8(8-))
The result of downing too many margaritas on a beach.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Myster

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #733 on: January 25, 2020, 08:59:22 AM »
She claims the letter she was reading from JB.  If this is so he clearly endorsed the whole thing:

https://youtu.be/ZsUyH-5t3S4
Pass me the sick bag...
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #734 on: January 25, 2020, 09:01:24 AM »
Good find!   Well done to CAL for putting the record straight.

Well we know his trademark block capitals which take up considerable space.  I recall he once sent me several A4 pages of writing which arrived in two separate envelopes on the same day as the prison had some rule about a maximum number of pages per letter [envelope].  From memory I think the limit was either 4 or 5 pages.  If he was under some misguided idea CAL was going to beat the drum for him he would be scribbling away like crazy and I can see how she might well have ended up with hundreds of pages amounting to a few letters but sent in numerous envelopes.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?