The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[Nicholas]

Well we know his trademark block capitals which take up considerable space.  I recall he once sent me several A4 pages of writing which arrived in two separate envelopes on the same day as the prison had some rule about a maximum number of pages per letter [envelope].  From memory I think the limit was either 4 or 5 pages.  If he was under some misguided idea CAL was going to beat the drum for him he would be scribbling away like crazy and I can see how she might well have ended up with hundreds of pages amounting to a few letters but sent in numerous envelopes.

Unless you can provide evidence of this I’m of the opinion you made it up and are telling porkies

[Holly Goodhead]

Pass me the sick bag...

Is there anything about JB either initiating or endorsing the bake-off?  Either way I blame the CT as these things would not have been possible without their assistance. 

[Myster]

Well we know his trademark block capitals which take up considerable space.  I recall he once sent me several A4 pages of writing which arrived in two separate envelopes on the same day as the prison had some rule about a maximum number of pages per letter [envelope].  From memory I think the limit was either 4 or 5 pages.  If he was under some misguided idea CAL was going to beat the drum for him he would be scribbling away like crazy and I can see how she might well have ended up with hundreds of pages amounting to a few letters but sent in numerous envelopes.

Must have cost CAL a fortune in first-class stamps.

[Myster]

Is there anything about JB either initiating or endorsing the bake-off?  Either way I blame the CT as these things would not have been possible without their assistance.

Naah... Trudi just wanted to get shots of her vast kitchen replete with a WHF AGA, huge stainless-steel range cooker and Kenwood Chef on YouTube.

[Holly Goodhead]

Unless you can provide evidence of this I’m of the opinion you made it up and are telling porkies

You're free to think what you like.

How do you think prison officials screen outgoing mail for content and contraband if prisoners are allowed to send out hundreds of pages of paper in one envelope?  Bearing in mind JB is cat A.

[Holly Goodhead]

Must have cost CAL a fortune in first-class stamps.

I'm not aware of any restrictions on ingoing mail. 

She may have used the email a prisoner service which has only fairly recently been made available to prisoners to mail out.  Well actually they write a letter which officials then scan and email.

[Nicholas]

You're free to think what you like.

How do you think prison officials screen outgoing mail for content and contraband if prisoners are allowed to send out hundreds of pages of paper in one envelope?  Bearing in mind JB is cat A.

I don’t believe ‘prison officials screen’ all “outgoing mail for content and contraband’

[Nicholas]

I'm not aware of any restrictions on ingoing mail. 

Aren’t you?

[Holly Goodhead]

I don’t believe ‘prison officials screen’ all “outgoing mail for content and contraband’

No I don't believe prison officials screen all outgoing mail for content and contraband just incoming and outgoing mail to cat A prisoners.

[Holly Goodhead]

Aren’t you?

Not insofar as limit to number of pages sent via written correspondence but in terms of email there's a limit to lines/ characters and if the sender wants to continue beyond the limit a further email is required.

[Nicholas]

No I don't believe prison officials screen all outgoing mail for content and contraband just incoming and outgoing mail to cat A prisoners.

Then you are naive https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/sep/01/rise-in-prison-officers-contraband-smuggling


https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/prison-officer-exchanged-love-letters-and-sex-messages-inmate-wakefield-jail-320746

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/latest-news/nurse-working-at-top-security-prison-had-sex-with-rapist-1-4910204

[Holly Goodhead]

Then you are naive https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/sep/01/rise-in-prison-officers-contraband-smuggling


https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/prison-officer-exchanged-love-letters-and-sex-messages-inmate-wakefield-jail-320746

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/latest-news/nurse-working-at-top-security-prison-had-sex-with-rapist-1-4910204

If you believe the contents of a post are wrong it is sufficient to state such setting out your reasons why.  Please desist from making comments of a personal nature as it sows discord and is not in keeping with the spirit of the forum.

I believe all communication from cat A prisoners is monitored other than maybe to legal reps. Certainly phone calls are monitored so why would it be different for mail? 

[Holly Goodhead]

All letters, both incoming and outgoing, may be read in high security establishments.

All phone calls made by cat A prisoners are monitored.

Bearing in mind JB is on a whole life tariff I would think his conditions security wise are onerous.

[Holly Goodhead]

All letters, both incoming and outgoing, may be read in high security establishments.

All phone calls made by cat A prisoners are monitored.

Bearing in mind JB is on a whole life tariff I would think his conditions security wise are onerous.

https://www.prisonersfamilies.org/contact/

[Caroline]

Well we know his trademark block capitals which take up considerable space.  I recall he once sent me several A4 pages of writing which arrived in two separate envelopes on the same day as the prison had some rule about a maximum number of pages per letter [envelope].  From memory I think the limit was either 4 or 5 pages.  If he was under some misguided idea CAL was going to beat the drum for him he would be scribbling away like crazy and I can see how she might well have ended up with hundreds of pages amounting to a few letters but sent in numerous envelopes.

I have letters from him longer than that sent in the same envelope. It might depend on the prison but CAL had been writing to him for more than three years. He writes on both sides of the page to save paper and numbers the pages.