The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[APRIL]

Yvonne Hartley

“Jeremy Bamber is a remarkable, dedicated, resilient, man with a strength of mind which is humbling”

All I can say is, it clearly sounds as if he's providing her with something she feels has been missing from her life. She speaks like a worshiping, modern day acolyte.

[Nicholas]

”The psychopaths would scout for the perfect victim in which they would test their targets for their vulnerability and weaknesses, such as telling a sad story about their lives and observe the target’s response. If the target sympathizes with them, they will continue to evaluation process until they’ve chosen that this is the right target for now.

Phase 2: Once the target has become a potential victim, the psychopath begins to earn their trust through a constant feeding of ‘carefully crafted messages, while constantly using feedback from them to build and maintain control.’ (Anderson, 2006) But in a romantic relationship, the psychopath would use the technique of ‘love-bombing’ as well as earning trust from the potential victim.
http://sites.bu.edu/daniellerousseau/2017/06/20/the-role-of-trauma-in-a-relationship-between-the-psychopath-and-the-victim/

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yvonne Hartley

“Jeremy Bamber is a remarkable, dedicated, resilient, man with a strength of mind which is humbling”

There’s nowt so queer as folk.

[Caroline]

Yvonne Hartley

“t annoys me greatly that these people state that Jeremy sits in his cell looking over case documents and extracts “typos” as evidence. These people really do not have a clue.

That's EXACTLY what he does!

[Nicholas]

That's EXACTLY what he does!

And Mark Newby appears to think Bamber’s case is worth backing?

[Nicholas]

In another case here https://www.thejusticegap.com/we-were-never-going-to-be-collateral-damage/

Mark Newby stated,

”Frankly, it was blindingly obvious that the allegations made against him were false back in 2012,’ 

‘That the Crown stuck doggedly to a case – there was not one but two attempts at a retrial – is not only a scandalous waste of money but, even more alarming, reveals a credulous approach to self-evidently flawed evidence. It always was a nothing case. What was the prosecution thinking?’

(In 2015 Jon Robins wrote his interpretation on Geoffrey Long’s case for the Daily Mail - don’t know if he was responsible for the header or not https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3298591/A-father-s-life-destroyed-child-sex-abuse-claims-daughter.html)

On the Bamber case,

Mark Newby said:

“The evidence strongly suggests the chain of events could not have been what the prosecution alleged.”

“The phone call information is consistent with what Jeremy Bamber always said. It is part of a package of evidence that should lead to a positive review for Jeremy.

“It’s fair to say when we go back to the CCRC we will have a pretty strong package which we hope they will refer to the Court of Appeal. We hope we will get it across the line.

“If we do, it is probably this country’s greatest ever miscarriage of justice.”

[Vertigo Swirl]

Is it just me, or is the that that a convicted serial killer has his own blog, website and instagram account simply repulsive?  Imagine if Rosemary West had one protesting her innocence and doing bake-offs.  Yuck!

[Nicholas]

In another case here https://www.thejusticegap.com/we-were-never-going-to-be-collateral-damage/

Mark Newby stated,

”Frankly, it was blindingly obvious that the allegations made against him were false back in 2012,’ 

‘That the Crown stuck doggedly to a case – there was not one but two attempts at a retrial – is not only a scandalous waste of money but, even more alarming, reveals a credulous approach to self-evidently flawed evidence. It always was a nothing case. What was the prosecution thinking?’

(In 2015 Jon Robins wrote his interpretation on Geoffrey Long’s case for the Daily Mail - don’t know if he was responsible for the header or not https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3298591/A-father-s-life-destroyed-child-sex-abuse-claims-daughter.html)

Note this at bottom of article
“An earlier version of this article said that Tina Long confessed in court that she had ‘lied about the injustice’. We are happy to clarify that Ms Long’s testimony under cross-examination in a re-trial proved to be unreliable and cast doubt on her allegations. The article also said that Tina and her mother Mrs Susan Hunter had taped proceedings in court. In fact, while a tape-recording was discovered, the evidence suggested neither woman was responsible. A detail that Geoff Long was present at his daughter Tina’s birth, has now been disputed. We are also happy to clarify that Mrs Hunter strongly denies attempting to enrol her grandchildren in Mrs Louise Long’s nursery.

[Nicholas]

Note this at bottom of article
“An earlier version of this article said that Tina Long confessed in court that she had ‘lied about the injustice’. We are happy to clarify that Ms Long’s testimony under cross-examination in a re-trial proved to be unreliable and cast doubt on her allegations. The article also said that Tina and her mother Mrs Susan Hunter had taped proceedings in court. In fact, while a tape-recording was discovered, the evidence suggested neither woman was responsible. A detail that Geoff Long was present at his daughter Tina’s birth, has now been disputed. We are also happy to clarify that Mrs Hunter strongly denies attempting to enrol her grandchildren in Mrs Louise Long’s nursery.

Yet Jon Robins article headed, ‘We were never going to be collateral damage’here https://www.thejusticegap.com/we-were-never-going-to-be-collateral-damage/

states,

“the first collapsed in February 2014, after it was revealed that the main prosecution witnesses had been recording the trial in a failed attempt to improve their own evidence”

“A CPS spokesperson points out that the 2010 convictions were ‘successfully appealed due to a misdirection by the judge in the original case’. ‘

In this article https://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/familys-nightmare-after-false-rape-claim-1280242 on the case it states,

“Geoff says his solicitor Mark Newby said that “all the evidence” indicated the allegations against his client were false.

And at the foot of the Herald article a note states,

“A previous story on the website in November 2015 entitled ‘Family’s nightmare after false rape claim’ stated Tina Long confessed in court that she had “lied about allegations that her father Geoff Long had sexually abused her”. We are happy to clarify that this was not the case.

We have also been asked to point out that evidence gathered by Mr Long’s wife Louise was not used in a retrial at which the Crown Prosecution Service dropped charges against Mr Long.

The article also stated the Longs believed Tina Long made up allegations “because she was jealous of Mr Long and his new life with his family”. We have been asked to point out that was not the case and Ms Long was prompted to report matters to police when she learned Mr Long was opening a children’s nursery.

In the mirrors article here https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/i-turned-detective-clear-innocent-6962497 it states,

“When contacted by the Sunday People, Tina admitted lying about the rape allegation but not about any other aspect of her evidence.

She disputed “everything Geoff and Louise Long have said” and added: “My dad was convicted and it was only quashed on a point of law. I admitted I said my father raped me but it wasn’t my father, I was covering up (for another man).

“There was a pink sink in my room. We’re talking 1970s. Anything could have happened to the pipework. A friend of mine gave evidence under oath and said we used to put our cigarettes out in it.

“This has been going on since 2009. Why have I never been charged with ­perjury? Why have the police never come to me and said I lied in court?”

Geoff’s solicitor Mark Newby said Tina’s lies were exposed in the witness box and the Crown dropped the case within 24 hours before she had finished giving evidence. He said: “It was demonstrated her account had no credibility.”

The CPS said its case was “fatally undermined” by evidence that was inconsistent with the original trial. A spokesman said: “As soon as this became apparent, the CPS offered no evidence.”

In the Justice Gap article above it stated,

“A spokesman for Sussex Police said that ‘a not guilty verdict does not automatically mean that witnesses must have committed offences’. ‘The case was fully discussed with senior CPS management after the retrial was discontinued,’ he said. ‘No request or suggestion was received from them that there should be any re-investigation, and there are no grounds for carrying one out.’

Here http://empathygap.uk/Rape%20Case%20Histories%20frozen%2025_1_18.pdf

(p58) it’s claimed

“The motivation for the allegations has been suggested to be Tina’s resentment that children from Geoff’s later marriages were financially better off than her. While Geoff was only a painter and decorator, after his first marriage he later did well in business.
In the view of Geoff’s solicitor, it was ‘blindingly obvious’ that the claims against Geoff were false. Yet an innocent man was subjected to four court appearances, including an appeal and two retrials, before his conviction was quashed.

Would be interested to learn who the author/s of the above pdf is/are

[ISpyWithMyEye]

And Mark Newby appears to think Bamber’s case is worth backing?

Who is Mark Newby?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

All I can say is, it clearly sounds as if he's providing her with something she feels has been missing from her life. She speaks like a worshiping, modern day acolyte.

April, almost ALL of the women who fawn over him are lacking in several ways

The ones I’ve seen are of a certain age — usually between late 50s to late 60s, even 70s

They’re usually plain, ordinary...gullible, naive, desperate to please. But they get very aggressive and uncouth if you say he’s what he is — a mass murderer. They’re often “slow” and not at all bright. Absolutely nothing will convince them of his guilt, even if he admitted it they’d say he’d been forced to lie. The ones I’ve seen live very basic lifestyles, either on benefits or in low paid work.

Their social lives are non-existent and men are scarce on the ground....it’s very sad.

The majority are lonely and need to be needed, so they love nothing better than doing his donkey work. Just a few kisses or a smilie at the end of his letters thrills them to bits, and they probably kiss the paper because he’s touched it...

It’s so, so, so sad. But makes me feel sick.

To be obsessed with a revolting child killer is evil beyond belief

[The General]

April, almost ALL of the women who fawn over him are lacking in several ways

The ones I’ve seen are of a certain age — usually between late 50s to late 60s, even 70s

They’re usually plain, ordinary...gullible, naive, desperate to please. But they get very aggressive and uncouth if you say he’s what he is — a mass murderer. They’re often “slow” and not at all bright. Absolutely nothing will convince them of his guilt, even if he admitted it they’d say he’d been forced to lie. The ones I’ve seen live very basic lifestyles, either on benefits or in low paid work.

Their social lives are non-existent and men are scarce on the ground....it’s very sad.

The majority are lonely and need to be needed, so they love nothing better than doing his donkey work. Just a few kisses or a smilie at the end of his letters thrills them to bits, and they probably kiss the paper because he’s touched it...

It’s so, so, so sad. But makes me feel sick.

To be obsessed with a revolting child killer is evil beyond belief

It's always a source of puzzlement when you perceive someone is obviously deluded and hold bizarre opinions, grasping the totally wrong end of the stick.

[Caroline]

Who is Mark Newby?

Bamber's solicitor.

[Daisy]

April, almost ALL of the women who fawn over him are lacking in several ways

The ones I’ve seen are of a certain age — usually between late 50s to late 60s, even 70s

They’re usually plain, ordinary...gullible, naive, desperate to please. But they get very aggressive and uncouth if you say he’s what he is — a mass murderer. They’re often “slow” and not at all bright. Absolutely nothing will convince them of his guilt, even if he admitted it they’d say he’d been forced to lie. The ones I’ve seen live very basic lifestyles, either on benefits or in low paid work.

Their social lives are non-existent and men are scarce on the ground....it’s very sad.

The majority are lonely and need to be needed, so they love nothing better than doing his donkey work. Just a few kisses or a smilie at the end of his letters thrills them to bits, and they probably kiss the paper because he’s touched it...

It’s so, so, so sad. But makes me feel sick.

To be obsessed with a revolting child killer is evil beyond belief

Can you provide evidence of what you are saying? You have no idea of the men and women who are friendly with Jeremy for various reasons. It is wrong of you to make assumptions and post as fact. One female who is extremely close to Jeremy is the film maker Emilia di Girolamo. She visits him regularly. She is neither old, frumpy or lacking a man in her life and is an intelligent professional lady. There are many others like her and also intelligent men who are his friends. None of us know for sure if Jeremy is a murderer because we weren’t there on the night. Only Jeremy knows the truth. I wonder whether the extreme hatred you spout out is because you have something lacking in YOUR life!  The truth will come out eventually when all undisclosed documents are released.

[Nicholas]

The truth will come out eventually

Who”s Mark Cropper?

Mark Cropper
@Markocropper
Find out what @EmiliaDG has to say about Jeremy Bamber http://jeremybambertestimony.co.uk/emilia-di-girolamo…
5:55 PM · Aug 1, 2011·Twitter Web Client