The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[APRIL]

‘We’ as it was just him and I. There was campaign team, no supporters, no one to talk to. It was just us. That’s what I mean by ‘we’.   


Of course I took my info with me but I was not going to be distracted by all the evidence to try and prove what I believed was impossible to prove.

If I go down the road of others, I have to prove jeremys innocence by proving Sheila guilty.  What is neither of them were guilty.  Jeremy even found it difficult to believe his sister could do such a thing.

Therefore, I cannot prove Sheila did it, neither could anybody really prove Jeremy did it.  Nothing forensically states categorically that he did it, taking into account the latest forensically tests we have, which is why he will take any test you want.  Nothing forensically has come up to cement his guilt...nothing at all.  Because it can’the didn’t do it.

A story certainly seems to have been told which has made it impossible for you to try to move in any direction.

[Nicholas]

Aunt Agatha
”I still believe that Neville was a High Member of the masons.  I believe he know something that if exposed, would destroy the lives of those in question.

June was very religious.  Some whitleblowers of the Grand Lodge have exposed evil deeds by those very High Members, including MP's and Royalty.

What if Ralph knew something about a member and what if he had evidence?

June I feel had a possible insight into the devil worship of these elites and was terrified it would encompass the family, therefore she did all she could to protect her husband and children from this, by instilling her Christian faith and beliefs.

The fear of exposure could have had Nevill killed... And his whole family had to go.

It was important that Jeremy was not at the farmhouse on the night of the killings. Why?

Jeremy was going to be the one to bring the police in. Nevill couldn't call the police... He knew this was a hit and he wouldn't get the help he needed with the Force having many freemason members too.

He had no choice but to call his son, the only person he believed in, that would come to his rescue.

Once the police where at the scene, they could then take over the scene and do what was needed to be done to set the stage to look like Jeremy did it.

Jeremy was the Patsy!   Jeremy is innocent!!

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3402.msg479198.html#msg479198

Did Bamber tell you all this AA and did you and him used to talk about this ?

[Nicholas]

Forget Carl Beech.
He was used as an example to any others who dared to claim rape against these evil,  sick b......s!!

Do some proper bloody research.

Whitehall is full of them!!

Carl Beech is a convicted liar, fraudster and paedophile

[Aunt Agatha]

Carl Beech is a convicted liar, fraudster and paedophile

Carl Beech has been used to highlight what happens to those who dare to seek justice, exposing those abusers in the upper class system.  Unless, you really look into, he is guilty. Dig deeper and you will find what you're not being told.

This is what I believe Nevill knew.  Somebody in high office has been a naughty boy and to ensure this secret never sees the light of day, Neveille is killed and Jeremy is given a whole life tarrif.   

[Nicholas]

Carl Beech has been used to highlight what happens to those who dare to seek justice, exposing those abusers in the upper class system.  Unless, you really look into, he is guilty. Dig deeper and you will find what you're not being told.

This is what I believe Nevill knew.  Somebody in high office has been a naughty boy and to ensure this secret never sees the light of day, Neveille is killed and Jeremy is given a whole life tarrif.

This is nonsense AA

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Jeremy Bamber prison interview in full courtesy of Jim Shelly

LONG LARTIN PRISON OCTOBER 1993

This is an edited interview with Jeremy Bamber conducted by telephone from Long Lartin prison where he is currently serving five life sentences. Bamber sounded if not convincing, at least convinced. At the top of the letters he writes to his friends and supporters, he puts in capitals how long he has been inside:
2,833 DAYS OF WRONGFUL IMPRISONMENT.

How do you feel now about your conviction ?
“I still can’t understand why I was convicted. It seems incredible to me, eight years after it all happened, still fighting away. There’s so much they don’t want to reveal. So much that they say they didn’t do which would have established my innocence. Had I been arrested immediately and an investigation done, then the truth would have been written much more closely. But, as my dad always used to say to me when any injustice happened to me in my childhood: “don’t worry Jeremy, the truth always comes out in the wash.” I think now the people helping me have been able to put together a package which, the bottom line, as they say, is that it is unimaginable that I would have been convicted had this evidence been before the jury.”

How much trouble have you had from other inmates ?
“Um, pretty much none. Very little. I’ve obviously made one or two enemies over the years. I would say the majority of prisoners believe in me – after reading the paperwork, meeting me, quizzing me. The prison staff extend to me, personally, every facility that they can. Very friendly. It’s not the same in every jail, and not the same for every prisoner.”

Have you had any physical assaults ?
“One in Franklin – from a guard, not a prisoner. It was a Control and Restraint technique. I smashed up my cell and went on a shit protest. It was to do with my case – a daft protest really when I look back at it. I asked for it. Apart from that, in all these years, I’ve never been touched.”

What can you tell me about Sheila? What sort of person was she ?
“God, that’s a hard question to do in just a few sentences. (Blows heavily.) You’ve sprung that on me. In her early life, a normal sister. Interested in English and Art, a sensitive person. A fairly highly-strung person but, up until the age of 17/18, I got on well with her. We had much in common. Then she went up to London and got into the modelling and that changed her quite considerably. It made her too narcissistical (sic). Quite why she started to suffer from schizophrenia, I don’t understand. She suffered from delusions, which made her very distant. It’s very hard when someone you know so well changes so radically. Really quite devastating to see someone suffering so much anxiety and not knowing what to do – mostly not having the maturity to deal with that. It makes me very sad now, that none of us – me, my family, the relatives – had any understanding about what to do.”

There is conflicting evidence about her actual ability to have committed these crimes with that weapon.
“My own opinion is that she would have had no trouble.”

What about her actual experience ?
“I can’t say that she’d had any particular experience with that particular weapon. It’s not difficult, not sophisticated. They’re simple things to operate. If she’d watched a cowboy movie, it’s almost as simple as that.”

You believe that she committed those crimes using the silencer ?
(Pauses) “My own personal belief, I believe that that’s a complete red herring. I don’t have evidence one way or the other on that. Not hard evidence. I believe that she didn’t use the silencer.”

Do you see the spark of this crime being the possibility of her children being fostered out ?
“It was something that was discussed. That was one of the many, many options that were discussed over how best to help her. What were the outside pressures causing her such distress ?”

Do you have any regrets about the way you behaved around the time of the funeral ?
“No, because a lot of those things have been grossly exaggerated by the media. I was so devastated at the loss of my family, in a sense I was trying to buy love from my friends by happily picking up the tabs, spending money to buy their affection, because I needed their love. So, no, I don’t regret that… I didn’t do anything wrong.”

What about when you went on holiday ?
“That was just with Brett Collins – we stayed in a caravan, not an expensive holiday.”

Any other regrets ?
“Yes, I suppose I do regret things. Not understanding early enough what was really going on, with the family. Being too selfish, too involved with what I was doing. I wish I’d been a better brother. Maybe Sheila and my mum and dad and Daniel and Nicholas would still be alive. I look back now and say, well, so much disturbance, why didn’t I do more ?”

ends
http://jimshelley.com/crime/jeremy-bamber-qa/

Wow, it’s late now but I’ll highlight his lies tomorrow.

It’s littered

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Jeremy Bamber
@Bambertweets
9h
Was Sheila Caffell accidentally shot by firearms officers training at the scene at #WhiteHouseFarm?
“The appearance suggested in the case of Sheila Caffell 'the wound' had been inflicted by her own hand.” PC995 Norman Wright
The #JeremyBamber case
https://jeremy-bamber.co.uk/single-gunshot-wound-to-sheila

[Aunt Agatha]

Wow, it’s late now but I’ll highlight his lies tomorrow.

It’s littered

There are no lies in there.

It's similar to what we discussed.

[Aunt Agatha]

Carl Beech.

It's late and I can't be posting too much longer.

Sean Attwood here exposes many of the elites, check out his videos. 

https://youtu.be/LIi_dTIBCq0

[Aunt Agatha]

We cannot ignore the facts.

https://youtu.be/Twcw5OxHus4


https://youtu.be/gRqdlb_cCp8


https://youtu.be/EfJrTiniBMI

Being a High Mason it's not impossible to imagine Neveille got wind of this.... Or something similar.
It was rife.... And it still is.

[Angelo222]

Jeremy Bamber prison interview in full courtesy of Jim Shelly

LONG LARTIN PRISON OCTOBER 1993

This is an edited interview with Jeremy Bamber conducted by telephone from Long Lartin prison where he is currently serving five life sentences. Bamber sounded if not convincing, at least convinced. At the top of the letters he writes to his friends and supporters, he puts in capitals how long he has been inside:
2,833 DAYS OF WRONGFUL IMPRISONMENT.

How do you feel now about your conviction ?
“I still can’t understand why I was convicted. It seems incredible to me, eight years after it all happened, still fighting away. There’s so much they don’t want to reveal. So much that they say they didn’t do which would have established my innocence. Had I been arrested immediately and an investigation done, then the truth would have been written much more closely. But, as my dad always used to say to me when any injustice happened to me in my childhood: “don’t worry Jeremy, the truth always comes out in the wash.” I think now the people helping me have been able to put together a package which, the bottom line, as they say, is that it is unimaginable that I would have been convicted had this evidence been before the jury.”

How much trouble have you had from other inmates ?
“Um, pretty much none. Very little. I’ve obviously made one or two enemies over the years. I would say the majority of prisoners believe in me – after reading the paperwork, meeting me, quizzing me. The prison staff extend to me, personally, every facility that they can. Very friendly. It’s not the same in every jail, and not the same for every prisoner.”

Have you had any physical assaults ?
“One in Franklin – from a guard, not a prisoner. It was a Control and Restraint technique. I smashed up my cell and went on a shit protest. It was to do with my case – a daft protest really when I look back at it. I asked for it. Apart from that, in all these years, I’ve never been touched.”

What can you tell me about Sheila? What sort of person was she ?
“God, that’s a hard question to do in just a few sentences. (Blows heavily.) You’ve sprung that on me. In her early life, a normal sister. Interested in English and Art, a sensitive person. A fairly highly-strung person but, up until the age of 17/18, I got on well with her. We had much in common. Then she went up to London and got into the modelling and that changed her quite considerably. It made her too narcissistical (sic). Quite why she started to suffer from schizophrenia, I don’t understand. She suffered from delusions, which made her very distant. It’s very hard when someone you know so well changes so radically. Really quite devastating to see someone suffering so much anxiety and not knowing what to do – mostly not having the maturity to deal with that. It makes me very sad now, that none of us – me, my family, the relatives – had any understanding about what to do.”

There is conflicting evidence about her actual ability to have committed these crimes with that weapon.
“My own opinion is that she would have had no trouble.”

What about her actual experience ?
“I can’t say that she’d had any particular experience with that particular weapon. It’s not difficult, not sophisticated. They’re simple things to operate. If she’d watched a cowboy movie, it’s almost as simple as that.”

You believe that she committed those crimes using the silencer ?
(Pauses) “My own personal belief, I believe that that’s a complete red herring. I don’t have evidence one way or the other on that. Not hard evidence. I believe that she didn’t use the silencer.”

Do you see the spark of this crime being the possibility of her children being fostered out ?
“It was something that was discussed. That was one of the many, many options that were discussed over how best to help her. What were the outside pressures causing her such distress ?”

Do you have any regrets about the way you behaved around the time of the funeral ?
“No, because a lot of those things have been grossly exaggerated by the media. I was so devastated at the loss of my family, in a sense I was trying to buy love from my friends by happily picking up the tabs, spending money to buy their affection, because I needed their love. So, no, I don’t regret that… I didn’t do anything wrong.”

What about when you went on holiday ?
“That was just with Brett Collins – we stayed in a caravan, not an expensive holiday.”

Any other regrets ?
“Yes, I suppose I do regret things. Not understanding early enough what was really going on, with the family. Being too selfish, too involved with what I was doing. I wish I’d been a better brother. Maybe Sheila and my mum and dad and Daniel and Nicholas would still be alive. I look back now and say, well, so much disturbance, why didn’t I do more ?”

ends
http://jimshelley.com/crime/jeremy-bamber-qa/

Such childish responses which if I'm honest isn't at all surprising given Bamber's limited intellect.  His comparison of the Anschutz .22 rifle to that used by a cowboy in a western is bewildering.

[Aunt Agatha]

Such childish responses which if I'm honest isn't at all surprising given Bamber's limited intellect.  His comparison of the Anschutz .22 rifle to that used by a cowboy in a western is bewildering.

You really need to try and think for yourself.  Jeremy has a high IQ,  read books constantly, attained many OU degrees, some a first. He has taught inmates to read, to write and is qualified to run educational classes in prison.
Jeremy is not of meagre intellect - it is quite the opposite.

[Caroline]

There are no lies in there.

It's similar to what we discussed.

No disrespect, but there are lies in there - he contradicts himself about Sheila in a later interview with Eric Allison.

What can you tell me about Sheila? What sort of person was she ?
“God, that’s a hard question to do in just a few sentences. (Blows heavily.) You’ve sprung that on me. In her early life, a normal sister. Interested in English and Art, a sensitive person. A fairly highly-strung person but, up until the age of 17/18, I got on well with her. We had much in common. Then she went up to London and got into the modelling and that changed her quite considerably. It made her too narcissistical (sic). Quite why she started to suffer from schizophrenia, I don’t understand. She suffered from delusions, which made her very distant. It’s very hard when someone you know so well changes so radically. Really quite devastating to see someone suffering so much anxiety and not knowing what to do – mostly not having the maturity to deal with that. It makes me very sad now, that none of us – me, my family, the relatives – had any understanding about what to do.”

This is in contrast to this (listen from around 5:03

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/audio/2011/jan/30/jeremy-bamber-murder-appeal-audio

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Desperate times

Aunt Agatha
”I still believe that Neville was a High Member of the masons.  I believe he know something that if exposed, would destroy the lives of those in question.

June was very religious.  Some whitleblowers of the Grand Lodge have exposed evil deeds by those very High Members, including MP's and Royalty.

What if Ralph knew something about a member and what if he had evidence?

June I feel had a possible insight into the devil worship of these elites and was terrified it would encompass the family, therefore she did all she could to protect her husband and children from this, by instilling her Christian faith and beliefs.

The fear of exposure could have had Nevill killed... And his whole family had to go.

It was important that Jeremy was not at the farmhouse on the night of the killings. Why?

Jeremy was going to be the one to bring the police in. Nevill couldn't call the police... He knew this was a hit and he wouldn't get the help he needed with the Force having many freemason members too.

He had no choice but to call his son, the only person he believed in, that would come to his rescue.

Once the police where at the scene, they could then take over the scene and do what was needed to be done to set the stage to look like Jeremy did it.

Jeremy was the Patsy!   Jeremy is innocent!!

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3402.msg479198.html#msg479198

And she’s posted on a thread ‘calling campion’ who passed away some time ago 

Who’s fed her this rubbish? Oh, Jeremy, of course!

It’s embarrassing!

She clearly knows nothing at all about the Freemasons, but I do. Close family and friends are on the square: one is a master mason: and Ive read some of their book (akin to the Bible) and the words are BEAUTIFUL! The masons support many, many charities, including Great Ordham Street Hospital for children: they contribute towards helping the disadvantaged, and whilst it’s true they’ll give a helping hand to a fellow mason, it’s only done out of kindness and fellowship and they ONLY support each other in business providing it’s all legal.

They’d NEVER get involved with anyone unsavoury, and if they discovered he was they’d be thrown out their lodge. So all this talk about murders and masons it total rubbish made up by the ignorant.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Don’t forget the Kevin Nunn case which Mark Newby referred to as a ‘disaster’

”Lawyers for Bamber – whose case is currently the subject of a six-part ITV dramatisation – have found in archives a series of statements by senior officers and the police surgeon that they say contradict that claim. They say the documents were never seen by the trial jury, and suggest that Caffell appeared to have only one gunshot wound when the police entered the crime scene.

“Mark Newby, a solicitor advocate at Quality Solicitors Jordans, which represents Bamber, told the Guardian:

“The jury only heard of the two shots, which was relied upon by the crown to support their case, but this wasn’t the whole picture. It represents yet another significant aspect to this case which supports Jeremy Bamber and undermines this conviction.”
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/11/jeremy-bamber-lawyers-say-new-evidence-undermines-conviction?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true


Did the trial jury hear from the Vet, Anji and Virginia Greaves, Sue Ford etc ?

But you can SEE the two bullet holes!

Dr Vanezis established which one was fatal!