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ferryman

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Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #90 on: April 19, 2017, 08:19:00 PM »
Right OK then you were not there and only know what you have read in The People.
Nuff said on that score then.

What about what we read in Amaral's book?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #91 on: April 19, 2017, 08:23:35 PM »
What about what we read Amaral's book?
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ferryman

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Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #92 on: April 19, 2017, 08:29:12 PM »
What about what we read Amaral's book?

For accuracy, it's probably below the standard of The People

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #93 on: April 19, 2017, 08:40:23 PM »
For accuracy, it's probably below the standard of The People
I can't comment. 
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #94 on: April 19, 2017, 11:01:41 PM »
  • As you well know, if I am guessing or expressing an opinion, I have the courtesy to say so.
    That is not necessary when reporting facts as recorded by those who were there and who were appalled by the evidence of the chaos the Amaral investigation had left in its wake.
  • You ask why I think it inevitable that information must have been lost from piles of unfiled documents scattered on chairs and desks ... in reply I might ask you to consider why filing systems exist; initially in filing cabinets containing hard copy and now electronically.
    Given that information can be misfiled and lost ... what chance papers which are systematically added to an existing pile.

    But you knew that anyway.   

I have provided links to quotes by the people who were there and witnessed the chaos left by Amaral's team and inherited by Rebelo ... no doubt you missed them.

As far as I know it is generally accepted that Amaral led a botched investigation ... mainly I think because he failed to utilise resources available to him.
  • He could have had the use of the British dogs in the immediate aftermath of Madeleine's disappearance ~ they were offered ~ they were on standby ~ they were refused.
  • He could have organised a reconstruction of the third when many of the original players were available including the Ocean Club staff and the Smiths whose memories of their experience might have been jogged a fortnight before it was. He failed to organise that.
  • He did not bring in the Portuguese specialists he should have.
    To investigate the possibility of Madeleine's murder Rebelo brought in two homicide experts ... that none of the arguidos were interrogated, arrested or charged as a result suggests that no evidence against them was uncovered,
    or even indication of Madeleine's demise.
It is my opinion that Amaral is incapable of recognising his limitations; his failures in Madeleine's case cannot be contemplated as anything other than huge conspiracy against him and his bias against Kate and Gerry McCann from his first action in the case and beyond has been directed by his incompetence and his bias and that of some of his officers, sixty of whom Rebelo immediately sacked on taking over.



INEPT.. INCOMPETENT.. I'M INCANDESCENT; EXCLUSIVE MADDIE: SHOCK NEW CLAIMS AGAINST POLICE Gerry 'S Rage over Claim Cops Didn't Check Evidence Key Papers 'Scattered All over the Floor ' Weeks Behind in Putting Records on Crime Computer
Byline: By STEWART WHITTINGHAM

HORRIFIED Kate and Gerry McCann were incandescent with rage last night after cops were accused of a catalogue of incompetence in the hunt for their missing daughter Madeleine.

Insiders claim vital evidence was ditched by boozy officers and crucial documents were ignored.

And weeks were wasted clearing up the mess to get the search for four-year-old Maddie back on track.

The appalling extent of the shambles came to light when Goncalo Amaral, the police chief leading the fivemonth investigat i on into Maddie's disappearance, was fired.

Sources said replacement Paulo Rebelo, 45, arrived in the resort of Praia da Luz to find:

CRUCIAL papers scattered over the floor of police offices;

A HUGE backlog of files that took two weeks to put on computer; and

BIASED officerswho were convinced Kate and Gerry had killed Maddie. …

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https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-170084243.html

You wonder why the PJ were so inundated with information?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Brietta

Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #95 on: April 19, 2017, 11:50:13 PM »
You wonder why the PJ were so inundated with information?

I'm sorry ... I haven't a clue what you are on about.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #96 on: April 20, 2017, 12:05:39 AM »
I'm sorry ... I haven't a clue what you are on about.
It happened in NZ too where there was a double murder associated with a holiday resort, there are just too many people coming and going it needs a lot of resources to cope with the information.
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Offline John

Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #97 on: April 20, 2017, 01:23:45 AM »
Amaral said in an interview with a Spanish magazine that (sic) we talked about death by others not murder, and, himself insinuated that the McCanns may have accidently killed Madeleine using Calpol, concealing her body (specifically Kate); then driving it in the Renault Scenic to some (unknown) location for final interment.

Oh, having first (Gerry) hidden (Amaral's exact word) Madeleine's body on the beach.

It has been claimed that Amaral made no such insinuation in respect of Calpol so below I reproduce his exact words from his book, 'The Truth of the Lie'.

"The mother admits having taken some to Portugal. She insists though that there is no
calming effect, its being composed solely of paracetamol, and that she did not give any
of it to her daughter during the holiday. At the time of her disappearance, Madeleine
was sleeping in the same room as the twins. The latter, in spite of the noise, the mother's
screaming and the comings and goings, did not wake up, as if they had been given
sedatives. Would there not be a link between that difficulty in falling asleep and
Madeleine's tragic end?"



Looks like a definite insinuation to me otherwise why mention Calpol at all?
« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 01:28:32 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline misty

Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #98 on: April 20, 2017, 01:41:36 AM »
It has been claimed that Amaral made no such insinuation in respect of Calpol so below I reproduce his exact words from his book, 'The Truth of the Lie'.

"The mother admits having taken some to Portugal. She insists though that there is no
calming effect, its being composed solely of paracetamol, and that she did not give any
of it to her daughter during the holiday. At the time of her disappearance, Madeleine
was sleeping in the same room as the twins. The latter, in spite of the noise, the mother's
screaming and the comings and goings, did not wake up, as if they had been given
sedatives. Would there not be a link between that difficulty in falling asleep and
Madeleine's tragic end?"


Looks like a definite insinuation to me otherwise why mention Calpol at all?

It is difficult to find a chapter in Amaral's book which does not contain insinuations against either Kate (especially Kate) or Gerry, or both. If Amaral was not biased, why was so much of the story of the investigation under his coordination related to the McCanns?
« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 01:58:23 AM by John »

stephen25000

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Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #99 on: April 20, 2017, 04:08:28 AM »
It has been claimed that Amaral made no such insinuation in respect of Calpol so below I reproduce his exact words from his book, 'The Truth of the Lie'.

"The mother admits having taken some to Portugal. She insists though that there is no
calming effect, its being composed solely of paracetamol, and that she did not give any
of it to her daughter during the holiday. At the time of her disappearance, Madeleine
was sleeping in the same room as the twins. The latter, in spite of the noise, the mother's
screaming and the comings and goings, did not wake up, as if they had been given
sedatives. Would there not be a link between that difficulty in falling asleep and
Madeleine's tragic end?"



Looks like a definite insinuation to me otherwise why mention Calpol at all?



There is a difference between an insinuation and a question.

Looks more like a question being posed.

A missing child.

Disappeared without trace.

Two other children unresponsive, despite the mayhem around them.

Medicines, including Calpol in the apartment.

Such circumstances would raise questions and result in possible hypotheses , would it not.

The other siblings should have been tested.

A failure on the investigations part.

The parents didn't press for that.

Hardly surprising.

They had tests carried out months later. They were irrelevant.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 08:24:45 AM by stephen25000 »

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #100 on: April 20, 2017, 08:27:41 AM »
The test could have been effective.  It is only with hindsight we can say they were ineffective.
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stephen25000

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Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #101 on: April 20, 2017, 08:33:20 AM »
The test could have been effective.  It is only with hindsight we can say they were ineffective.

It was a major failure not testing the other two children.

By all parties concerned.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #102 on: April 20, 2017, 08:39:44 AM »
It was a major failure not testing the other two children.

By all parties concerned.

with hindsight I would say the mccanns would agree with you

Offline Benice

Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #103 on: April 20, 2017, 08:52:51 AM »
It has been claimed that Amaral made no such insinuation in respect of Calpol so below I reproduce his exact words from his book, 'The Truth of the Lie'.

"The mother admits having taken some to Portugal. She insists though that there is no
calming effect, its being composed solely of paracetamol, and that she did not give any
of it to her daughter during the holiday. At the time of her disappearance, Madeleine
was sleeping in the same room as the twins. The latter, in spite of the noise, the mother's
screaming and the comings and goings, did not wake up, as if they had been given
sedatives. Would there not be a link between that difficulty in falling asleep and
Madeleine's tragic end?"



Looks like a definite insinuation to me otherwise why mention Calpol at all?

Exactly -  and in the paragraph before the one you quote - Amaral makes more than an insinuation IMO -  he claims as a fact that :-

Quote
The paternal grandfather stated that Kate gave the little girl - and also the twins - Calpol, a medication designed to facilitate falling asleep.
End 

A very biased distortion of the actual facts IMO.



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: Was Amaral Biased Against the McCanns and If So Why?
« Reply #104 on: April 20, 2017, 09:00:31 AM »
Exactly -  and in the paragraph before the one you quote - Amaral makes more than an insinuation IMO -  he claims as a fact that :-

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The paternal grandfather stated that Kate gave the little girl - and also the twins - Calpol, a medication designed to facilitate falling asleep.
End 

A very biased distortion of the actual facts IMO.

What facts.

You weren't there.