Panorama Special on 10th Anniversary

[John]

is this it

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3441991/madeleine-mccann-definitive-case-file-trolls-dna-blunders-intruder/

The McCanns, one of their friends said later, had been the “most strict” of them all about making the checks.

The Sun appears to accept this claim as sacrosanct but the evidence tells a different story as Madeleine was heard to cry for over an hour on a previous night by the homeowner who resided permanently above the holiday apartment.

[Mr Gray]

The Sun appears to accept this claim as sacrosanct but the evidence tells a different story as Madeleine was heard to cry for over an hour on a previous night by the homeowner who resided permanently above the holiday apartment.

an uncorroborated report of crying

[John]

This is going to be another disappointment for the sceptics. if the evidence is loked at then there is no evience of the involvement of the parents and unless maddie closed the curtain ...the  patio door and the gate when she wandered off then she was abducted

Again you are posting uncorroborated claims as fact Dave.  There is no evidence the gates were closed.

[Mr Gray]

Again you are posting uncorroborated claims as fact Dave.  There is no evidence the gates were closed.

kate said they were closed

[John]

an uncorroborated report of crying

Corroborated by the friend Mrs Fenn telephoned wondering what she should do about such a distressing situation.  That's the difference you see, this event was corroborated by at least two independent witnesses.

It seems Mrs Fenn didn't say anything to Madeleine's parents at the time for fear of distressing them further.  I'm quite sure she was disgusted at their total disregard for their children's needs.  The same disgust apparently shared by Kate's own mother when she was told what they had done.

[Mr Gray]

Corroborated by the friend Mrs Fenn telephoned wondering what she should do about such a distressing situation.  That's the difference you see, this event is witnessed.

Kate telephoned her family to say the window was open

my take is mrs fenn may ahve been mistaken as to the length of the crying.

[carlymichelle]

Corroborated by the friend Mrs Fenn telephoned wondering what she should do about such a distressing situation.  That's the difference you see, this event was corroborated by at least two independent witnesses.

It seems Mrs Fenn didn't say anything to Madeleine's parents at the time for fear of distressing them further.  I'm quite sure she was disgusted at their total disregard for their children's needs.  The same disgust apparently shared by Kate's own mother when she was told what they had done.

didnt kates own mother  want to  shake  her/them for what they  put her grandchildren  though?

[John]

Kate telephoned her family to say the window was open

my take is mrs fenn may ahve been mistaken as to the length of the crying.

She was very specific so no doubt was watching the time while deciding what to do.

[Mr Gray]

She was very specific so no doubt was watching the time while deciding what to do.

still uncoroborated

[barrier]

Kate telephoned her family to say the window was open

my take is mrs fenn may ahve been mistaken as to the length of the crying.

It could have been longer if you're going to go down the road of shorter.

[Mr Gray]

It could have been longer if you're going to go down the road of shorter.

mrs fenn just raises the possibility of abduction

[barrier]

mrs fenn just raises the possibility of abduction

How,the alleged crying was a couple of nights earlier.

[John]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08pmtb1

Madeleine McCann: 10 Years On
Panorama

Madeleine McCann is the world's most famous missing person. Her disappearance ten years ago has been investigated by police forces in two different countries, but they came up with contradictory conclusions. So what really happened to Madeleine in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz?

Reporter Richard Bilton, who has covered the story for the BBC since the first days, examines the evidence and tracks down the men British police have questioned about the case.

I just hope for their own sakes that these men didn't take the BBC's grubby blood money and told them to do one!  These men do not deserve to have their lives and the lives of their family wrecked by parasite reporters whose only aim is to make a fast buck on the back of Madeleine stories.

[Alfie]

Given that there hasn't been any reward on offer for finding Madeleine for many years it begs the question...WHY?

A million dollar reward for info leading to the discovery of the wherabouts of William Tyrell hasn't produced results, so that begs the question why are you so keen for a similar reward in this case? 

[Robittybob1]

How,the alleged crying was a couple of nights earlier.

But it is possible that the couple seen entering the McCann apartment a night or two earlier came back again.