What Happened To Madeleine McCann? - by Ian Horrocks.

[Alfie]

You miss the point.  Someone who is barefooted will leave a solid scent trail, someone wearing shoes will still leave a trail but a much weaker one and someone being carried at a height of four feet will leave very little of a trail.  I believe Madeleine was barefooted when she disappeared.

The dogs weren't able to tell us how strong the scent was - strong, medium or light so we are unable to tell from their actions whether or not she was wearing shoes at the time.

[stephen25000]

Normally I would tend to agree but there was so much cross contamination with items to be tested in this case that I feel the results were greatly compromised. If Eddie did detect cadaver scent there are innocent reasons already discussed why it could have been in apartment 5a.

However, the possibility remains.

Let's face reality.

What else is there in this case, other than that, and that Madeleine disappeared ?

[Alfie]

That has been done already.

...and of course, you wouldn't want me to 'libel' anyone, would you.

As I said  yesterday, and several times before, there is no evidence to put one scenario above another.

..and if you really believe in abduction, let's see evidence to support it.

Of course not, we were talking about various cops' theories - I said I preferred those from cops that were logical and plausible.  The only cop I know of who has ventured a "parents dunnit" theory is Amaral and his theory is neither logical nor plausible in my (and Horrocks) opinion.  What do you think of it?

[John]

So the front door could be opened from the inside could it?  Or was it deadlocked and the key removed?

Do you notice anything significant from this police photo as to how the additional lock to 5a actually worked?

[Mr Gray]

It seems to be a question of which policeman with a lot of experience you want to believe?

I believe those that understand the evidence
Amaral doesn't  that's why he got so much wrong
It's all on record

[slartibartfast]

Short of going some distance out to sea in a boat, for which there is no sighting or evidence whatsoever, any body would have been shortly washed back up.

Can you provide some cite for that?

[Robittybob1]

I'm afraid Rob, there is no verification of 3 or 4.

1 and 2 can be explained by other means.

Can you remember what she said outside the Portuguese Court when she and her husband were questioned by a local reporter , as to what evidence there was of abduction ?

She replied, ''I know, I was there''.

Followed by ''I know more than you do''.

7 minutes in.

She wasn't there when Madeleine disappeared, was she Rob. 8)-)))

How could she know more ?

Let's see what you are saying "I'm afraid Rob, there is no verification of 3 or 4."  In other  words because it was her experience you can't disprove that.

"1 and 2 can be explained by other means."  Do it then.

"She replied, ''I know, I was there. I know more than you do''.  I think you would have to agree that Kate experiencing the moment that she finds Madeleine missing is an experience no one else can ever experience, so she will know more than anyone about that experience.

[Mr Gray]

Indeed Slarti.

SY weren't on the scene when Madeleine disappeared.

The local police were. They witnessed the behaviour and reactions of the Mccanns.

But they didn't understand the alerts or the forensic evidence  so who could have any faith in their conclusions

[carlymichelle]

Can you provide some cite for that?

i have read where bodies have been weighed  down  in the ocean or  water  by rocks or bricks hence  where  bodies are never  found because the body cant float  sorry to be graphic

[stephen25000]

Let's see what you are saying "I'm afraid Rob, there is no verification of 3 or 4."  In other  words because it was her experience you can't disprove that.

"1 and 2 can be explained by other means."  Do it then.

"She replied, ''I know, I was there. I know more than you do''.  I think you would have to agree that Kate experiencing the moment that she finds Madeleine missing is an experience no one else can ever experience, so she will know more than anyone about that experience.

No verification Rob, means precisely that.

Second, she wasn't there when Madeleine disappeared, was she.

1 and 2, by the other scenarios.

Oh, by the way, what photos are there of Madeleine holding this cuddlecat ?

[Eleanor]

Can you provide some cite for that?

Someone involved in the investigation checked the tide pattern, and the fact that all high places had rocks underneath.

Throwing a body from the beach wouldn't have worked either.

It's all on here somewhere as like everything else, it has all been done before.

[Eleanor]

i have read where bodies have been weighed  down  in the ocean or  water  by rocks or bricks hence  where  bodies are never  found because the body cant float  sorry to be graphic

You need a boat to do that.  Did anyone see any of The Tapas 9 putting to sea in a boat.

[Robittybob1]

Can you provide some cite for that?

Eleanor - words to this effect are in Mark Harrison the English search adviser's report.

[Eleanor]

Eleanor - words to this effect are in Mark Harrison the English search adviser's report.

Yep, I thought it was Mark Harrison.  But thanks for that.

[John]

What Horrocks says makes perfect sense and with his background should be taken seriously. There seems to be no one with any credibility suggesting the parents are involved so it's about time sceptics woke up
Horrocks describes the alerts as irrelevant and he is a policeman with a lot of experience
Once the parents are ruled out with woke and wandered so unlikely abduction does start to become a fact and explains the remit

His comments are a direct contradiction of Redwoods.  One believes Tannerman was probably Crècheman while the other doesn't.