UK police guilty of flawed tunnel vision in hunt for Maddie McCann

[carlymichelle]

As far as I'm aware, no one has ever given a sensible explanation why this should be rejected.

The problem for the McCann camp is that if she was proved to have got out, then they would be seen to bear far greater responsibility for her fate than if a dastardly abductor had broken in and snatched her.

exactly jassi lack  of parental supervision    and the mcanns have never  said what they did was  wrong  when everybody knows they were

[stephen25000]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Ben_Needham

A totally different case, and different circumstances.

[stephen25000]

exactly jassi lack  of parental supervision    and the mcanns have never  said what they did was  wrong  when everybody knows they were

Some people, won't criticize what they did Carly.

[Mr Gray]

I'm sure you trust the Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310279/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-Kate-says-forgive-Maddies-abductor.html

‘I think I could probably forgive Madeleine’s abductor whatever the circumstances. I don’t know whether it’s simply because I’m stronger or because there’s no benefit in not forgiving someone.

'I can’t change anything and I don’t want to be eaten up by hatred and bitterness.

'And maybe there is an element of pity - what kind of person could do something like this? Of course, forgiveness will always be easier if there is remorse.’



The irony of the second paragraph is beyond measure.

That is because you do not understand context

[Alfie]

I'm sure you trust the Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310279/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-Kate-says-forgive-Maddies-abductor.html

‘I think I could probably forgive Madeleine’s abductor whatever the circumstances. I don’t know whether it’s simply because I’m stronger or because there’s no benefit in not forgiving someone.

'I can’t change anything and I don’t want to be eaten up by hatred and bitterness.

'And maybe there is an element of pity - what kind of person could do something like this? Of course, forgiveness will always be easier if there is remorse.’



The irony of the second paragraph is beyond measure.

was this said before or after the quote about Amaral?  Of course, if Amaral were to express remorse for his actions I'm sure Kare would forgive him.

[Alfie]

Indeed Jassi, as they would be culpable.

That is why (along with the accidental death scenario) they have to push for 'abduction'.

Is that why the Needhams pushed the abduction theory do you think?

[Mr Gray]

Why was "woke and wandered" given a "highly unlikely" rating?

They seemed quite sure about
It would be good to know the details in full

[Alfie]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Ben_Needham

A totally different case, and different circumstances.

with many similarities too.

[stephen25000]

Some replies by posters are beyond ridiculous.

Read the quotes and comprehend.

It would help.

[stephen25000]

was this said before or after the quote about Amaral?  Of course, if Amaral were to express remorse for his actions I'm sure Kare would forgive him.

Pull the other one Alfie.

That will never wash.

They tried to ruin him in court.

[carlymichelle]

Some replies by posters are beyond ridiculous.

Read the quotes and comprehend.

It would help.

its called  denial also    some supporters have admitted on here they did the same as the mcanns with their children  that would bias their opinion wouldnt  it

[stephen25000]

its called  denial also    some supporters have admitted on here they did the same as the mcanns with their children  that would bias their opinion wouldnt  it

Indeed it does.

At least some have admitted  it, what would count more is saying that it was the wrong thing to do.

[stephen25000]

with many similarities too.

Cite the similarities.

Then we can examine the key differences.

[Brietta]

Type of Crime – Unknown

Type of Crime – Unknown
Epitomises failure.  Not the failure of the victims of the crime, Madeleine and her remaining family, but the failure of the initial investigation.
The greatest of which was perhaps the initial failure of collecting usable forensic samples.  Among those samples which survived are unidentified prints and unidentified hairs.  Which as far as I can see it means that there was someone inside the apartment the police could not identify.

Whether or not all the unidentified hairs belong to the same individual, I do not know.  Nor if the fingerprints belong to the person who cast the hair ... but there they stand ... and they are evidence of at least one unknown presence in apartment 5A.

Yet Madeleine's parents became locked in the tunnel vision of the police.

When the police case against them collapsed ... what was left?  Not enough information to determine what crime had been committed against Madeleine leaving us with "Type of Crime Unknown".

I for one don't think that is anything to be particularly proud of.

[stephen25000]

Type of Crime – Unknown
Epitomises failure.  Not the failure of the victims of the crime, Madeleine and her remaining family, but the failure of the initial investigation.
The greatest of which was perhaps the initial failure of collecting usable forensic samples.  Among those samples which survived are unidentified prints and unidentified hairs.  Which as far as I can see it means that there was someone inside the apartment the police could not identify.

Whether or not all the unidentified hairs belong to the same individual, I do not know.  Nor if the fingerprints belong to the person who cast the hair ... but there they stand ... and they are evidence of at least one unknown presence in apartment 5A.

Yet Madeleine's parents became locked in the tunnel vision of the police.

When the police case against them collapsed ... what was left?  Not enough information to determine what crime had been committed against Madeleine leaving us with "Type of Crime Unknown".

I for one don't think that is anything to be particularly proud of.

There is a more direct approach.

There was no evidence to find, to show a particular crime.

Your attack on the Portuguese initial  investigation is pare for the course, and far from the first time.