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Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1290 on: September 20, 2017, 12:24:32 PM »
Are you really?  Its because the Smith sighting is contrary to the McCann narrative  and so cannot possibly be allowed any credibility -  IMO

You fail to see that, after the removal of Tannerman by SY, the mere presence of an unidentified Smithman works very favourably for the McCann narrative & very unfavourably for the Amaral thesis.

Offline jassi

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1291 on: September 20, 2017, 12:30:50 PM »
You fail to see that, after the removal of Tannerman by SY, the mere presence of an unidentified Smithman works very favourably for the McCann narrative & very unfavourably for the Amaral thesis.

Not particularly interested in the Amaral thesis, but if Smithman is so  favourable to the McCann cause, then why is he not prominently featured on their website in preference to Tannerman ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1292 on: September 20, 2017, 12:35:38 PM »
You fail to see that, after the removal of Tannerman by SY, the mere presence of an unidentified Smithman works very favourably for the McCann narrative & very unfavourably for the Amaral thesis.

Not really.

That is merely your opinion.

Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1293 on: September 20, 2017, 12:36:24 PM »
Not particularly interested in the Amaral thesis, but if Smithman is so  favourable to the McCann cause, then why is he not prominently featured on their website in preference to Tannerman ?

Just because the sighting works favourably for the cause doesn't necessarily mean it is the most important. If JT has reservations about SY's announcement re. her sighting then I'm sure she will have expressed them to the McCanns - hence Tannerman still featuring prominently on the website. IMO.

Offline faithlilly

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1294 on: September 20, 2017, 12:37:09 PM »
Tanner's behaviour during the van incident clearly shows a great deal about her personality.

Even when she had no idea what she was being told was true and  fearful for her safety she was still willing to take part in the 'van' incident. To me this suggests a rather malleable personality who when faced with authority, or someone with a more forceful personality, accedes easily to their requests even though to do so may not be the best decision for her personally.

Her willingness in the Oakley tape recorded interviews, shown in Channel 5's The McCanns and the Conman, to agree that Tannerman was the the George Harrison lookalike shown to her only strengthens this sense of malleability.

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1295 on: September 20, 2017, 12:38:57 PM »
Not really.

That is merely your opinion.

Perhaps you would care to give your reasons for countering my opinion on the matter in the interest of debate.

Offline faithlilly

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1296 on: September 20, 2017, 12:44:40 PM »
Just because the sighting works favourably for the cause doesn't necessarily mean it is the most important. If JT has reservations about SY's announcement re. her sighting then I'm sure she will have expressed them to the McCanns - hence Tannerman still featuring prominently on the website. IMO.

If Tanner has reservations why isn't she talking to SY rather than the McCanns ? Further if SY haven't taken action on those reservations what does that say about how credible a witness they find her ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1297 on: September 20, 2017, 12:52:42 PM »
If Tanner has reservations why isn't she talking to SY rather than the McCanns ? Further if SY haven't taken action on those reservations what does that say about how credible a witness they find her ?

SY found JT very credible if THEY are satisfied she saw a man & they have now identified that man as "almost certainly" an innocent holidaymaker. JT would not have been told what Crecheman had said to SY.
 SY are conducting the investigation, not JT or the McCanns so what is put on the OFM website is their business. IMO.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2017, 12:55:17 PM by misty »

Offline John

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1298 on: September 20, 2017, 01:02:50 PM »
By the time the Smiths were interviewed Murat was an arguido. It would have been a dereliction of duty for the police not to ask if the man MS saw was Murat.

It always makes me wonder why supporters put so much effort into discrediting the Smith sighting.

It's as plain as the nose on your face why the Smith sighting has always been played down and for the very same reason that the famous Smith e-fits never saw the light of day for years. Is anyone still in the dark?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline faithlilly

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1299 on: September 20, 2017, 01:05:28 PM »
SY found JT very credible if THEY are satisfied she saw a man & they have now identified that man as "almost certainly" an innocent holidaymaker. JT would not have been told what Crecheman had said to SY.
 SY are conducting the investigation, not JT or the McCanns so what is put on the OFM website is their business. IMO.

When the taxpayer has paid over £11 million pounds into an investigation which has eliminated Tannerman as a suspect yet the OFM seem to be actively undermining that investigation by still having Tannerman as a POI that is everyone's business.

The McCanns cannnot demand that the investigation into their child's disappearance be reopened then actively undermine that same investigation's findings when it doesn't suit. SY must certainly be questioning their behaviour.

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline jassi

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1300 on: September 20, 2017, 01:05:38 PM »
On the contrary, OG don't believe a word of Tannerman, but are unable to prove it, so have invented Crecheman in order to do away with Tannerman. Tanner cannot contradict OG as their construction matches Tanner's description.

Totally imo of course.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline faithlilly

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1301 on: September 20, 2017, 01:05:58 PM »
It's as plain as the nose on your face why the Smith sighting has always been played down and for the very same reason that the famous Smith e-fits never saw the light of day for years. Is anyone still in the dark?

The question was rhetorical John.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1302 on: September 20, 2017, 01:10:21 PM »
Perhaps you would care to give your reasons for countering my opinion on the matter in the interest of debate.

Your opinion is based on deflecting from the Mccanns.

You cannot show no matter how you try the other man is an abductor and there is no getting away from that.

Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1303 on: September 20, 2017, 01:11:26 PM »
It's as plain as the nose on your face why the Smith sighting has always been played down and for the very same reason that the famous Smith e-fits never saw the light of day for years. Is anyone still in the dark?

Amaral thought the sighting was so important after secretly flying the Smiths to Portugal, taking their statements & doing a reconstruction he did......absolutely nothing; at least, not until MS suddenly decided the sighting was Gerry. Credit due to Rebelo in Oct, 2007 for arranging for the Smiths' timeline to be checked out by sending officers to The Dolphin & Kelly's bar......yet Amaral was only interested in The Tapas 9's timeline.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2017, 02:54:57 PM by John »

Offline faithlilly

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #1304 on: September 20, 2017, 01:12:00 PM »
On the contrary, OG don't believe a word of Tannerman, but are unable to prove it, so have invented Crecheman in order to do away with Tannerman. Tanner cannot contradict OG as their construction matches Tanner's description.

Totally imo of course.

And IMO too Jassi.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?