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Offline Benice

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #195 on: May 29, 2017, 10:21:14 AM »
I truly do not know how I am going to get myself through one hour of Goncalo's 2017 apologia.  With an effort I have managed to reach 2:13 of the introduction.

This passes as serious television in Portugal?  WOW  %#&%4%

1:29
There are body odours and corpse fluid ... o que?
1:38
It gives you an idea, as the expert said, that the body was here, a few minutes here, lying on the floor before leaving to anywhere else.    o que?
1:55
The body when it was placed in that trunk had to come from a place where it was frozen.  o que?

Where were the "body odours"?
Where was the "body fluid"?
What "expert"?
What "trunk"?
What "freezer"?  Onde?

2:07
Where is justice for this child?

Which is probably a very good question to ask.  Not I think by the man who has striven with every sinew of his being for over ten years to prevent any one finding out what may have happened to her ... so maybe more appropriate to ask of that man.

The video is awash with disinformation IMO.    No wonder there are people in PT who think the McCanns are guilty.

For example:   According to Amaral - another reason why the PJ didn't believe JT's sighting of Tannerman -  was because it was too 'strange; for her to have taken the route she claimed she took to get  back to her apartment  - and in their opinion she would have taken the 'obvious' route up the pathway at the rear of the apartments and gone in through the patio doors - as that was the quickest way.     

 It would seem by that comment that he didn't even know that the patio doors were locked and could not be unlocked from the outside, meaning that the only entry possible was via the main doors.    He then calls Gerry a liar for confirming that fact.

IMO he is just proving in this video what an 'expert' he is at twisting and distorting evidence to fit his own agenda.

If that's not the case then IMO the only other  alternative is that he was one profoundly incompetent policeman.

Either way it was bad news for for Madeleine and her family when he took on the case.
AIMHO


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #196 on: May 29, 2017, 10:24:29 AM »
The video is awash with disinformation IMO.    No wonder there are people in PT who think the McCanns are guilty.

For example:   According to Amaral - another reason why the PJ didn't believe JT's sighting of Tannerman -  was because it was too 'strange; for her to have taken the route she claimed she took to get  back to her apartment  - and in their opinion she would have taken the 'obvious' route up the pathway at the rear of the apartments and gone in through the patio doors - as that was the quickest way.     

 It would seem by that comment that he didn't even know that the patio doors were locked and could not be unlocked from the outside, meaning that the only entry possible was via the main doors.    He then calls Gerry a liar for confirming that fact.

IMO he is just proving in this video what an 'expert' he is at twisting and distorting evidence to fit his own agenda.

If that's not the case then IMO the only other  alternative is that he was one profoundly incompetent policeman.

Either way it was bad news for for Madeleine and her family when he took on the case.
AIMHO

I would say the perception in Portugal, is  the lack of comprehension among the Portuguese people in regard to the McCann's behaviour.

Likewise, before any one starts up again, Madeleine was searched for by many people after she disappeared, and for some time after.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #197 on: May 29, 2017, 10:32:47 AM »
Well. Some people really seem to hate Amaral don't they? He's 'blatantly dishonest', libelous, an absolute idiot, rubbish, lies, tripe, disgraceful, biased.

Some people claim the moral high ground when they condemn others for questioning the McCanns online. No-one on this forum has attacked the McCanns with such savagery in my opinion.

It seems that they don't actually object to vitriol, bile and hatred. As long as the target is Amaral it's fine.

pointing out lies is not hate...its fact

instead of personal attacks on those who have made valid criticisms perhaps you could answer the points I have made...you cant because they are genuine
« Last Edit: May 29, 2017, 01:56:50 PM by John »

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #198 on: May 29, 2017, 12:23:13 PM »
The video is awash with disinformation IMO.    No wonder there are people in PT who think the McCanns are guilty.

For example:   According to Amaral - another reason why the PJ didn't believe JT's sighting of Tannerman -  was because it was too 'strange; for her to have taken the route she claimed she took to get  back to her apartment  - and in their opinion she would have taken the 'obvious' route up the pathway at the rear of the apartments and gone in through the patio doors - as that was the quickest way.     

 It would seem by that comment that he didn't even know that the patio doors were locked and could not be unlocked from the outside, meaning that the only entry possible was via the main doors.    He then calls Gerry a liar for confirming that fact.

IMO he is just proving in this video what an 'expert' he is at twisting and distorting evidence to fit his own agenda.

If that's not the case then IMO the only other  alternative is that he was one profoundly incompetent policeman.

Either way it was bad news for for Madeleine and her family when he took on the case.
AIMHO



Well  said.  8((()*/
« Last Edit: May 29, 2017, 12:59:12 PM by Brietta »
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Brietta

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #199 on: May 29, 2017, 12:55:21 PM »
I know it is really soul destroying wading through what I have found to be ill informed and plain daft material ... and I'm not even through the intro yet ... but please may we return to the topic ~ CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
Thank you
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #200 on: May 29, 2017, 01:03:52 PM »
I know it is really soul destroying wading through what I have found to be ill informed and plain daft material ... and I'm not even through the intro yet ... but please may we return to the topic ~ CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
Thank you

I think the subtitles are to be questioned?
Did Amaral really say that one of the Mccann's friends had a fetish for bathing children or can that be attributed to the translator or the subtitle editing?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #201 on: May 29, 2017, 01:05:53 PM »
I think the subtitles are to be questioned?
Did Amaral really say that one of the Mccann's friends had a fetish for bathing children or can that be attributed to the translator or the subtitle editing?

i dont think the subtitles are innaccurate.....on the actual programme there are wordings indicating cadaver odour and blood vestiges

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #202 on: May 29, 2017, 01:07:00 PM »
I know it is really soul destroying wading through what I have found to be ill informed and plain daft material ... and I'm not even through the intro yet ... but please may we return to the topic ~ CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
Thank you

the question is does amaral actually believe all this rubbish...

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #203 on: May 29, 2017, 01:07:03 PM »
Amaral was there in Portugal at the time.

He will be aware of more of the background of the case unlike us as we do not have the full facts of the case at our disposal.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2017, 01:38:25 PM by John »

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #204 on: May 29, 2017, 01:14:47 PM »
the question is does amaral actually believe all this rubbish...


He seems quite relaxed and confident when spouting all the rubbish.
He seems to believe it.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #205 on: May 29, 2017, 01:15:04 PM »
Amaral was there in Portugal at the time, unlike you.

He will be aware of more of the background of the case, and you, like the rest of us, do not have the full facts of the case at your disposal.

you are totally missing the point.amaral is making claims that are total fabrication.....several other posters are saying the same...you need to face facts .....the facts amaral is relying on are not true...they are basically blatant lies...unless he really does not understand the evidence...which would be astonishing

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #206 on: May 29, 2017, 01:16:50 PM »
i dont think the subtitles are innaccurate.....on the actual programme there are wordings indicating cadaver odour and blood vestiges

So without any evidence he can opine that an individual has a fetish for bathing children.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #207 on: May 29, 2017, 01:18:00 PM »
you are totally missing the point.amaral is making claims that are total fabrication.....several other posters are saying the same...you need to face facts .....the facts amaral is relying on are not true...they are basically blatant lies...unless he really does not understand the evidence...which would be astonishing


Do you know all the facts relating to the case, other than those available from the released files ?

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #208 on: May 29, 2017, 01:26:14 PM »
People can decide for themselves what they believe is true or false.

None of us on here, have access to the full case files.

The irony of this thread, and from elsewhere, is that more guests reading the forum will know of the videos existence.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #209 on: May 29, 2017, 01:28:52 PM »
People can decide for themselves what they believe is true or false.

None of us on here, have access to the full case files.

The irony of this thread, and from elsewhere, is that more guests reading the forum will know of the videos existence.

thats why im pointing out the lies in it