CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles

[Robittybob1]

So you think the alerts by the dogs are red herrings? In my opinion they would be viewed very differently by some had they happened in locations unconnected with the McCanns.

Since they are unconfirmed forensically they could be, or some could be at least.

[Mr Gray]

by a mile...the biggest red herrings are the dog alerts which are totally misunderstood by many...so many posters on this forum want to dismiss what the experts say....no evidential value and no inference can be drawn..

and I dont have to put...IMO

[stephen25000]

by a mile...the biggest red herrings are the dog alerts which are totally misunderstood by many...so many posters on this forum want to dismiss what the experts say....no evidential value and no inference can be drawn..

and I dont have to put...IMO

Yet you go on and on and on about them.

[Mr Gray]

Yet you go on and on and on about them.

because there are so many false claims about them

you have incorrectly claimed they are circumstanial evidence...yet you have NOTHING to suport that claim when the experts state they are not

[stephen25000]

because there are so many false claims about them

you have incorrectly claimed they are circumstanial evidence...yet you have NOTHING to suport that claim when the experts state they are not

That is your opinion, and is completely and totally irrelevant.

Please carry on talking about the dog alerts.

I feel sure that the more people read about them, the more guests reading this forum will realize how much some people fear them.

[Mr Gray]

That is your opinion, and is completely and totally irrelevant.

Please carry on talking about the dog alerts.

I feel sure that the more people read about them, the more guests reading this forum will realize how much some people fear them.

It is NOT my opinion.... it is THE OPINION of the EXPERTS in this case

IM very happy to talk about the alerts as they feature in the topic of this thread

the Experts in the case state implicitly that the alerts have NO EVIDENTIAL RELIABILITY and no INFERENCE CAN BE DRAWN FROM THE ALERTS..


that is NOT MY OPINION... that is the OPINION OF THE RECOGNISED EXPERTS  in this field

[stephen25000]

It is NOT my opinion.... it is THE OPINION of the EXPERTS in this case

IM very happy to talk about the alerts as they feature in the topic of this thread

the Experts in the case state implicitly that the alerts have NO EVIDENTIAL RELIABILITY and no INFERENCE CAN BE DRAWN FROM THE ALERTS..


that is NOT MY OPINION... that is the OPINION OF THE RECOGNISED EXPERTS  in this field

The word OPINION, is the key word.



So, please carry on.


Readers on this forum can judge for themselves.


They will also judge the concern shown by McCann supporters as regard the alerts.

[Mr Gray]

The word OPINION, is the key word.



So, please carry on.


Readers on this forum can judge for themselves.


They will also judge the concern shown by McCann supporters as regard the alerts.

yes...the opinions of the EXPERTS re the canine alerts... I  prefer to listen to the EXPERTS....

there is NO INDICATION of ANY CADAVER in the apartment...NONE...

That is the opinion of the EXPERTS..

there are those who think they know more than the experts of course

[Mr Gray]

That is your opinion, and is completely and totally irrelevant.

Please carry on talking about the dog alerts.

I feel sure that the more people read about them, the more guests reading this forum will realize how much some people fear them.

you have claimed that some people fear the alerts...that should carry a caveat of...IMO...to comply wit forum rules..

AFAIAC no one fears the alerts as they are imo...completely meaningless....this is supported by the EXPERTS

[stephen25000]

A reminder of the topic title.

'CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma'

[Lace]

yes...the opinions of the EXPERTS re the canine alerts... I  prefer to listen to the EXPERTS....

there is NO INDICATION of ANY CADAVER in the apartment...NONE...

That is the opinion of the EXPERTS..

there are those who think they know more than the experts of course

Quote from an expert in training cadaver dogs -
   
They'd been using pigs as training aids for years. But as Cablk points out, "If you have a dog trained on pigs, then you have a dog trained to find dead pigs."

[Mr Gray]

A reminder of the topic title.

'CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma'

In the above video Amaral relies heavily on the cadaver alerts
They are therefore relevant to the thread

[stephen25000]

Quote from an expert in training cadaver dogs -
   
They'd been using pigs as training aids for years. But as Cablk points out, "If you have a dog trained on pigs, then you have a dog trained to find dead pigs."

So what traces of Pig D.N.A. were found ?

[Mr Gray]

So what traces of Pig D.N.A. were found ?

The cadaver dog found nothing

[Innominate]

Quote from an expert in training cadaver dogs -
   
They'd been using pigs as training aids for years. But as Cablk points out, "If you have a dog trained on pigs, then you have a dog trained to find dead pigs."

I used to think that was the case, but it appears that it is a myth:

He has additionally trained exclusively using
human remains in the U.S.A. in association with the F.B.I. The enhanced
training of the dog has also involved the use of collection of 'cadaver scent'
odor from human corpses using remote technical equipment which does not
contact the subject.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm