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Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #180 on: May 28, 2017, 05:38:24 PM »
amaral talks of maddie overhearing her father speaking ....then she falls and dies..how ridiculous is taht
then 2 hrs is needed for cadaver odour to develop for the dogs to alert...does he undersatnd anything...obviously not

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #181 on: May 28, 2017, 05:40:54 PM »
amarals analysis of the evidence is totally flawed...a fact you wish to ignore... i have pointed out clearly where it is flawed...thats why i beleive he doesnt have a clue

i believe maddie was abducted based on the evidence which I have explainned point by point

You haven't explained with cites why Madeleine, in your view was  'abducted'.

You have merely given your opinion.

I refer to Angelo's post, 216, on this thread.

That is in my view, an accurate summation of the situation.

« Last Edit: May 30, 2017, 03:58:05 PM by John »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #182 on: May 28, 2017, 05:44:48 PM »
You haven't explained with cites why Madeleine, in your view was  'abducted'.

You have merely given your opinion.

I refer to Angelo's post, 216, on this thread.

That is in my view, an accurate summation of the situation.

i have answerred angelos statement and pointed out it relies on fantasy not fact
« Last Edit: May 30, 2017, 03:57:35 PM by John »

Offline Carana

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #183 on: May 28, 2017, 05:53:52 PM »
Unless you think the translator misunderstood Gerry saying front or rear as 'using a key', then retranslated it back at the end as front or rear, then you are simply ignoring everything in the statements.

Gerry said he used a key.  Then he said Matthew went in by the patio doors.  Then he said Kate used a key.

Then Kate said she used the patio door, with Gerry present at the interview.

Then (10th May) Gerry changed it to using the patio doors.  No key.

We have given a statement about a crime occurring in Iberia.  That statement was signed to confirm it was accurate, because it was.  It contained the pertinent facts.

No. My question is whether the layout of the flat was established (with the PJ officer and the interpreter) prior to the interview. If so, it doesn't appear in the initial statement. If not, confusion as to which door was referred to could be a plausible explanation.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #184 on: May 28, 2017, 06:02:08 PM »
There's only one KEY door.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #185 on: May 28, 2017, 06:07:23 PM »
I truly do not know how I am going to get myself through one hour of Goncalo's 2017 apologia.  With an effort I have managed to reach 2:13 of the introduction.

This passes as serious television in Portugal?  WOW  %#&%4%

1:29
There are body odours and corpse fluid ... o que?
1:38
It gives you an idea, as the expert said, that the body was here, a few minutes here, lying on the floor before leaving to anywhere else.    o que?
1:55
The body when it was placed in that trunk had to come from a place where it was frozen.  o que?

Where were the "body odours"?
Where was the "body fluid"?
What "expert"?
What "trunk"?
What "freezer"?  Onde?

2:07
Where is justice for this child?

Which is probably a very good question to ask.  Not I think by the man who has striven with every sinew of his being for over ten years to prevent any one finding out what may have happened to her ... so maybe more appropriate to ask of that man.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #186 on: May 28, 2017, 06:13:02 PM »

That video is hard work and not actually worth the effort since it is mostly rollox with a few outstanding fibs thrown in, all of which we have heard before.
In my not so humble opinion.

ferryman

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #187 on: May 28, 2017, 06:52:27 PM »
That video is hard work and not actually worth the effort since it is mostly rollox with a few outstanding fibs thrown in, all of which we have heard before.
In my not so humble opinion.

Can I ask, Eleanor, have you read his (on-line) book?

If so, is the video much different from the book?

Offline Eleanor

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #188 on: May 28, 2017, 06:58:24 PM »
Can I ask, Eleanor, have you read his (on-line) book?

If so, is the video much different from the book?

May I beg your indulgence?  No, I have not read his poxy book, on line or otherwise, so I can't help you.

But the best bits, or the worst bits, whichever way you look at it, are splattered absolutely everywhere, except for the Coffin Thingy, which he probably hadn't thought of at the time.  I bet he wishes he had.

ferryman

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #189 on: May 28, 2017, 07:52:12 PM »
I truly do not know how I am going to get myself through one hour of Goncalo's 2017 apologia.  With an effort I have managed to reach 2:13 of the introduction.

This passes as serious television in Portugal?  WOW  %#&%4%

1:29
There are body odours and corpse fluid ... o que?
1:38
It gives you an idea, as the expert said, that the body was here, a few minutes here, lying on the floor before leaving to anywhere else.    o que?
1:55
The body when it was placed in that trunk had to come from a place where it was frozen.  o que?

Where were the "body odours"?
Where was the "body fluid"?
What "expert"?
What "trunk"?
What "freezer"?  Onde?

2:07
Where is justice for this child?

Which is probably a very good question to ask.  Not I think by the man who has striven with every sinew of his being for over ten years to prevent any one finding out what may have happened to her ... so maybe more appropriate to ask of that man.

Reading upwards of the thread (which is never the best way).

Just read this post of Brietta's

What's to say?

In Portugal, evidently, you can spout any garbage you like, call it a 'theory' and profit from it.

Depressing (beyond words)!

Offline G-Unit

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #190 on: May 29, 2017, 08:51:30 AM »
Well. Some people really seem to hate Amaral don't they? He's 'blatantly dishonest', libelous, an absolute idiot, rubbish, lies, tripe, disgraceful, biased.

Some people claim the moral high ground when they condemn others for questioning the McCanns online. No-one on this forum has attacked the McCanns with such savagery in my opinion.

It seems that they don't actually object to vitriol, bile and hatred. As long as the target is Amaral it's fine.

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Offline Eleanor

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #191 on: May 29, 2017, 08:57:24 AM »
Well. Some people really seem to hate Amaral don't they? He's 'blatantly dishonest', libelous, an absolute idiot, rubbish, lies, tripe, disgraceful, biased.

Some people claim the moral high ground when they condemn others for questioning the McCanns online. No-one on this forum has attacked the McCanns with such savagery in my opinion.

It seems that they don't actually object to vitriol, bile and hatred. As long as the target is Amaral it's fine.

This is an exaggeration.  No one hates Amaral, nor are our opinions vitriol and bile.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2017, 01:54:44 PM by John »

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #192 on: May 29, 2017, 08:59:30 AM »
Well. Some people really seem to hate Amaral don't they? He's 'blatantly dishonest', libelous, an absolute idiot, rubbish, lies, tripe, disgraceful, biased.

Some people claim the moral high ground when they condemn others for questioning the McCanns online. No-one on this forum has attacked the McCanns with such savagery in my opinion.

It seems that they don't actually object to vitriol, bile and hatred. As long as the target is Amaral it's fine.

That G-Unit represents IMO, a very accurate appraisal of the situation.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2017, 01:54:58 PM by John »

Offline Benice

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #193 on: May 29, 2017, 09:28:36 AM »
Well. Some people really seem to hate Amaral don't they? He's 'blatantly dishonest', libelous, an absolute idiot, rubbish, lies, tripe, disgraceful, biased.

Some people claim the moral high ground when they condemn others for questioning the McCanns online. No-one on this forum has attacked the McCanns with such savagery in my opinion.

It seems that they don't actually object to vitriol, bile and hatred. As long as the target is Amaral it's fine.

I don't 'do' hate -  and you must have a very strange idea of what constitutes 'hate'  if you think those example you give above prove 'hatred'.         Amaral is dishonest - and has a criminal record to prove it.  The lies he tells in the video confirm his dishonesty to be ongoing IMO.     Strange as it may seem to you - I don't admire corrupt policemen one little bit. 

AIMHO





« Last Edit: May 29, 2017, 01:55:31 PM by John »
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Eleanor

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #194 on: May 29, 2017, 09:43:25 AM »

This all sounds relatively well balanced to me.  Jolly good show.