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Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #210 on: May 29, 2017, 01:30:18 PM »
People can decide for themselves what they believe is true or false.

None of us on here, have access to the full case files.

The irony of this thread, and from elsewhere, is that more guests reading the forum will know of the videos existence.

the thread is about this video...it exposes amaral as a person who has a very poor understanding of the evidence...to use your words...he doesnt have a clue

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #211 on: May 29, 2017, 01:30:29 PM »
People can decide for themselves what they believe is true or false.

None of us on here, have access to the full case files.

The irony of this thread, and from elsewhere, is that more guests reading the forum will know of the videos existence.

Good. Then the guests will be able to see just how ridiculous (imo) the video is.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #212 on: May 29, 2017, 01:34:08 PM »
thats why im pointing out the lies in it

Remember to add, that your comment is your opinion.

Offline John

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #213 on: May 29, 2017, 01:37:04 PM »
I think the subtitles are to be questioned?
Did Amaral really say that one of the Mccann's friends had a fetish for bathing children or can that be attributed to the translator or the subtitle editing?

Yes, he did state it.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #214 on: May 29, 2017, 01:39:07 PM »
Yes, he did state it.

#that is a very strong accusation

Offline John

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #215 on: May 29, 2017, 01:39:42 PM »
Amaral was there in Portugal at the time.

He will be aware of more of the background of the case unlike us as we do not have the full facts of the case at our disposal.

I have always pointed this out, lots will have been observed by investigators which never got written down.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2017, 01:49:13 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Erngath

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #216 on: May 29, 2017, 01:41:22 PM »
Yes, he did state it.

Seems rather questionable to make that statement.
In fact quite objectionable to label a person thus.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #217 on: May 29, 2017, 01:44:00 PM »
Seems rather questionable to make that statement.
In fact quite objectionable to label a person thus.

it seems amaral feels he can say what he likes about anyone

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #218 on: May 29, 2017, 01:47:52 PM »
I have always pointed this out, lots will have been observed by investigators which never got written down.

If the Portiguese police run a pocket book system like the UK the contents are admissible as evidence but we are unlikely ever to see the content.
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Offline John

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #219 on: May 29, 2017, 01:49:25 PM »
Having watched the full video for a second time after reading some of the comments made on this thread, it is surprising what is revealed. It appears that damage limitation was the priority for some members of the tapas group that night and in the days which followed.  Amaral states very clearly that certain members of the group did exactly the same as the McCanns and used the back or patio door entrance to gain entry to the ground floor apartments. This was denied by them all but the McCanns were caught out when it was revealed that the keys to the front door had been left on the kitchen worktop. Gerry McCann then changed his statement and admitted to having used the patio door which was left unlocked.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2017, 04:09:48 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #220 on: May 29, 2017, 01:53:50 PM »
Having watched the full video for a second time after reading some of the comments made on this thread, it is surprising what is revealed. It appears that damage limitation was the priority for some members of the tapas group that night and in the days which followed.  Amaral states very clearly that certain members of the group did exactly the same as the McCanns and used the back or patio door entrance to gain entry to the ground floor apartments. This was denied by them all but the McCanns were caught out when it was revealed that the keys to the front door had been left on the kitchen worktop. Gerry McCann then changed his statement and admitted to having used the patio door which was left unlocked.

It is more likely that gerry corrected his statement that had been recorded incorrectly rather than changing it
You seem to want to ignore all the lies told in the video
« Last Edit: May 30, 2017, 04:10:29 PM by John »

Offline John

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #221 on: May 29, 2017, 01:59:47 PM »
It is more likely that gerry corrected his statement that had been recorded incorrectly rather than changing it
You seem to want to ignore all the lies told in the video

No, I don't buy it.  Amaral wasn't stupid, he could see through the bullshit.  And as for checking on the children every half hour, we know that was a fabrication too.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Eleanor

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #222 on: May 29, 2017, 02:04:51 PM »
it seems amaral feels he can say what he likes about anyone

He can.  The Supreme Court of Portugal said so.  I but only wonder if they realise what a can of worms they have opened.

Offline Eleanor

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #223 on: May 29, 2017, 02:14:48 PM »

Personally, I would doubt any video that HiDeHo had messed about with.  But on this occasion she appears to have exposed Amaral rather than to have aided him.

Besides, apart from the odd punch up, this is a good Thread.

ferryman

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #224 on: May 29, 2017, 02:24:27 PM »
I have always pointed this out, lots will have been observed by investigators which never got written down.

Swerving back on topic, Amaral didn't even realise that Aurial Gaspar and his wife made separate statements, or that Aurial's statement could not be more different in content from his wife's.

According to Amaral, the Gaspars made 'joint statements'.

The PJ, like the English police and (I dare say) police forces around the world take individual statements from individual witnesses.

In the particular instance of the statements made by Katriana Gaspar and her husband, that point is vital, because their statements could not be more different.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2017, 04:13:05 PM by John »